HDR Discussion Thread

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Wow, ‘everyone else’ ? I had no idea…..IMO, you’ve always been a valuable member . Heck, in that case, don’t feel badly, during and after the Blu-ray vs HD DVD format war, between defending Blu-ray and exposing the ignorance of certain video gurus when they’ve spoken above their expertise and/or experience, I’m pretty sure my hate club (whether silent or vocal) is larger than yours.

Well, as I said, I'm not looking for competition with you, in either the love or hate camps, but it is what it is. I speak my mind and there will always be people who get on my wick and vice versa. I've had several PMs from other folks over the years as a result of some swaggering douchebag who thinks he knows everything cluttering up lots of threads - I guess I'm just another arrogant internet know-it-all to add to that number.

Still, as Oscar Wilde said: "The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about".

[ray0414]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

My humble thanks to Salty but there's no chance of me getting big-headed about such things as I'm very much aware that I'm liked and loathed in equal measure, neatly summed up in this post by Ray: https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...0#post13689610

Hope you know it was a Jibe joke, it's known here In the states but not sure about in your neck of the woods

[DanBa]

Multi-HDR support - Current situation:

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Staying Salty

posters

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

very very

Originally Posted by ray0414

a Jibe joke, it's known here In the states but not sure about in your neck of the woods

I'll need a few minutes for my morning cup of coffee to kick in my creativity.

[Penton-Man]

^
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-T_h9jt-gM#t=1m36s



^ Coming to a theater near you in 4K HDR. (jibe joke)

On a more serious note, someone who has been described as the most brilliant and knowledgeable federal criminal lawyer in America, by those in the know, has just been hired by the Special counsel Robert Mueller…..http://www.nationallawjournal.com/id...20170511025645

Buckle up Donald . You’ve got more important things to think about than rumors about cavorting with Russian hookers being potentially used as blackmail…..how’s 'obstruction of justice' sound?

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by DanBa

Multi-HDR support - Current situation:

Nice chart Dan . After our morning ride, I’ll try to post, as an illustrative visual aid, a colorful flow pathway for live PQ HDR workflow -> live transmission with 2094-10 <- Dolby's app.

Later.

It’s now time for me to suit up as….https://vimeo.com/219454201#t=3m , albeit currently in SoCal, and it’s drizzling outside , which means rooster tails

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by ray0414

Hope you know it was a Jibe joke, it's known here In the states but not sure about in your neck of the woods

It is actually true though ray, depending on who you talk to I'm either a complete "tool" or someone who knows their stuff. It's kind of a binary thing, folks either love me or hate me

[Robert Zohn]

Sony rolled out the HLG upgrade with the recent Android 7.0 Nougat firmware update.

Has anyone watched any HLG Youtube content on any of Sony's X1 Extreme processor equipped TV?

[Penton-Man]

some of dee boys and girls are late to the trailhead

for payback, on our lung busting climb, i’ll tease the tardy french riders about yesterday’s match with sweden when they eventually get their butts here, meanwhile folks at home can munch on this…. http://www.studiodaily.com/2017/06/t...-dolby-vision/

and when you get thru thee ^ above, as a follow-up to this early heads up from last month in the last paragraph of this post – https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...y#post13559948 , another SD article to digest, scroll down to the DI grading - http://www.studiodaily.com/2017/06/g...aces-workflow/

[HeatEquation]

Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

Sony rolled out the HLG upgrade with the recent Android 7.0 Nougat firmware update.

Has anyone watched any HLG Youtube content on any of Sony's X1 Extreme processor equipped TV?

I posted this in another thread a while ago, but here it is again for those who are interested: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...9Ih8qQwMgaiOFQ

^ Several HLG videos there.

My Samsung has had support for HLG for a while, and those videos look pretty good.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

and when you get thru thee ^ above, as a follow-up to this early heads up from last month in the last paragraph of this post – https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...y#post13559948 , another SD article to digest, scroll down to the DI grading - http://www.studiodaily.com/2017/06/g...aces-workflow/

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Good taste. I like that ^ science guy with the unusual auricles, I’ve also seen him referenced before from about a year ago from a different angle…. https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...y#post12290781

Reminder to those with access, the TV series Genius continues….http://channel.nationalgeographic.co...FUlNfgod49kCLw

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

After our morning ride, I’ll try to post, as an illustrative visual aid, a colorful flow pathway for live PQ HDR workflow -> live transmission with 2094-10 <- Dolby's app.

Later.

Later is now....



^ ^ ^

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

perhaps the final solution for live Dolby Vision is to create in real time (with only a 1 frame delay) ST 2094-10 metadata in a HDR processing unit positioned to function immediately in front of the encoder at essentially the end of the pipeline, thusly not having to string the metadata throughout the entire broadcast workflow.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

Since you asked, I'll take a stab at

And how about zmarty's query on the last page?

Originally Posted by zmarty

Sort of unrelated to HDR but related to TV technology in general, I am curious if you guys agree next year HDR + HFR (high frame rate) will be a big thing in 2018 models? And I don't mean just LG, who I know for sure will deliver this technology next year.

[Penton-Man]

^
Of course, if you prefer not to offer an opinion, we'll understand, given the nature of the business....

Best Buy's "Outdated World" Commercial - YouTube

Best Buy's "Outdated World" Commercial - YouTube

[LordoftheRings]

I keep quiet but I keep reading.

[Canada]

Will Dolby Vision be better than HDR 10?

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

I keep quiet but I keep reading.

I love the reaction of that lady when looking at the billboard with regards to the newest model phone and the guy choking on his cup of coffee.

Anyway, it’s a toughie, but zmarty poses a legitimately advanced question, be it for those with vested interest or not. It was actually one of questions posed in Super session to the panel at the last NAB by the longtime former Senior Vice President Technology of Warner Bros. and past President (and first woman President) of SMPTE)……https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0J4-FOoQxIY#t=43m54s.

As a supplemental aside to inquiring minds, from the point of view of the upstream broadcast infrastructure, for numbers freaks, a number not detailed by Madeleine in her reply to Wendy in that 2160/120 fps will be challenging and take longer to arrive is because it needs a data rate of 24Gb/s per signal.

[Penton-Man]

^ P.S.
Interface-wise, this is the Ultra HD Forum’s thinking, ‘Future’…..

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Canada

Will Dolby Vision be better than HDR 10?

Theoretically, without question…..how much better with regards to the outcome for what you see on your screen at home?..... that depends ultimately upon the source and how the content was graded (basic need or not: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2118avh2vc4#t=1h15m53s and creative intent as to whether or not to leverage it in scenes in the storytelling) and the individual TV you watch it on.