James Bond: The Ultimate Collection (1962-2012) + Volume Collections

[LMFAObros]

Originally Posted by Jorvic

Watched a couple of the Moore films on Blu-ray over the last week or so. I might be wrong, but The Man with the Golden Gun seems to have some edge enhancement. That one could do with an upgrade. Still think it's got one of the best endings to a Bond film.

Moonraker I thought looked OK overall. Had forgotten how entertaining it is! The cinematography is also notable, particularly in the early parts of the film.

Yeah been rewatching them, noticed some edge enhancement on quite a few of the bonds as well as some noticeable Lowry processing. For your eyes only looks pretty DNRed.

[Jorvic]

Originally Posted by LMFAObros

Yeah been rewatching them, noticed some edge enhancement on quite a few of the bonds as well as some noticeable Lowry processing. For your eyes only looks pretty DNRed.

I'm planning to rewatch For Your Eyes Only and A View to a Kill next.

[Nicage22]

Originally Posted by Jorvic

Moonraker I thought looked OK overall. Had forgotten how entertaining it is! The cinematography is also notable, particularly in the early parts of the film.

Moonraker is a fun movie, but it looks horrendous on blu-ray. I saw it projected and there was literally no grain in the picture.

I can't figure out how these films got any good reviews back in 2009. We must not have cared about filmic grain back then.

Some of these transfers have now been released in 4K. Same dreadful grain removal. Goldfinger is in a very bad shape at the moment. So is Thunderball.

[John Earls Umbrella]

Anyone who grew up watching the early Bonds on ITV on Christmas Day may not agree with the “bad shape” comment. Yes of course they could look better, but compared to what we had these are more than adequate until something better comes along.

[Hammerlover]

Originally Posted by John Earls Umbrella

Anyone who grew up watching the early Bonds on ITV on Christmas Day may not agree with the “bad shape” comment. Yes of course they could look better, but compared to what we had these are more than adequate until something better comes along.

I didn't grow up with ITV here in the States, but I do remember ABC "Movie of the Week" airings back in the 1980s, and definitely agree with you.

[philthehip]

Originally Posted by John Earls Umbrella

Anyone who grew up watching the early Bonds on ITV on Christmas Day may not agree with the “bad shape” comment. Yes of course they could look better, but compared to what we had these are more than adequate until something better comes along.

After spending the 1990s watching movies on ITV I regard almost every bluray as a miracle. Then when a better transfer comes along I just take it as another miracle.

[Killer Meteor]

George Lazenby taking tips from Frank Langella on torpedoing one's reputation - https://www.theguardian.com/australi...hobic-comments

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by Nicage22

I can't figure out how these films got any good reviews back in 2009. We must not have cared about filmic grain back then.

Smaller, 1080p-at-best displays back then.

Today's displays reveal every little flaw and anything DNRed/sharpened looks much, much worse.

[lilboyblu]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Smaller, 1080p-at-best displays back then.

Today's displays reveal every little flaw and anything DNRed/sharpened looks much, much worse.

Watched the Goldeneye Blu-ray upscaled to 4K the other night, and yes, it looked even worse than before. Yikes.

[Markgway]

Originally Posted by Killer Meteor

George Lazenby taking tips from Frank Langella on torpedoing one's reputation - https://www.theguardian.com/australi...hobic-comments

Doesn't say what he said, so we'll have to take their word for it, I guess...

[philthehip]

Originally Posted by Markgway

Doesn't say what he said, so we'll have to take their word for it, I guess...

From the reports, he gave a talk where he spoke much about his sexual conquests (dragging young woemn into his car for instance, chasing the daughters of producers). He made some homophobic remarks, and made light of the Queens death, or her health.

[pferreira]

Originally Posted by Killer Meteor

George Lazenby taking tips from Frank Langella on torpedoing one's reputation - https://www.theguardian.com/australi...hobic-comments

I had no idea James Bond was family friendly? Interesting...

Originally Posted by lilboyblu

Watched the Goldeneye Blu-ray upscaled to 4K the other night, and yes, it looked even worse than before. Yikes.

Was that the recent cinema showing? I really wasn't impressed by the GoldenEye 4K either. I'm told it was a brand new transfer.

[lilboyblu]

Originally Posted by pferreira

I had no idea James Bond was family friendly? Interesting...

Was that the recent cinema showing? I really wasn't impressed by the GoldenEye 4K either. I'm told it was a brand new transfer.

Ugly in 1080p, and even worse upscaled to 4K.

[BNex99]

Originally Posted by Killer Meteor

George Lazenby taking tips from Frank Langella on torpedoing one's reputation - https://www.theguardian.com/australi...hobic-comments

At least Lazenby apologized. Langella was all like, "What do you mean I can't put my hand there?"

Originally Posted by pferreira

I had no idea James Bond was family friendly? Interesting...

Not even in the same galaxy as the point.

[Metro1962]

Originally Posted by James Luckard

They created a brand new master for The Spy Who Loved Me on BD, while I believe all the other Moore films are the old HD masters used on the DVDs. I would watch TSWLM.

I believe all the Connery films have the same old DVD-era HD masters on the BDs.

And the old DVDs look and sound great.

[Tylerfan]

All the Bond movies to arrive on Amazon Prime Video on October 5th, along with a new documentary “The Sound of 007”
https://variety.com/2022/film/news/j...235387995/amp/

[Nicage22]

Originally Posted by John Earls Umbrella

Anyone who grew up watching the early Bonds on ITV on Christmas Day may not agree with the “bad shape” comment. Yes of course they could look better, but compared to what we had these are more than adequate until something better comes along.

If a blocky and sharpened appearance with no grain, and smudge around our hero, is adequate, then I don't know what to tell you. I also remember the old broadcasts, and I surely enjoyed Goldfinger more back then.

These classic movies deserve better than this. In addition, they are big sellers. Don't let them get away with being lazy. They cannot release the Lowry-abomination in 4K. Some of them (not all) need a proper restoration.

[John Earls Umbrella]

You don’t have to tell me anything, I didn’t say they were great, just better than they were on TV in the 70’s.

And there’s no need for the rather condescending tone either….

[buck135]

Originally Posted by John Earls Umbrella

You don’t have to tell me anything, I didn’t say they were great, just better than they were on TV in the 70’s.

And there’s no need for the rather condescending tone either….

Well you're going to be told whether you like it or not!

[Nicage22]

Originally Posted by John Earls Umbrella

You don’t have to tell me anything, I didn’t say they were great, just better than they were on TV in the 70’s.

And there’s no need for the rather condescending tone either….

Boy, people on this particular forum is sensitive. I wasn't attacking you at all, good sir.

Back in the 90's, when I saw Bond on the telly for the first time, I was enjoying the film itself. Today - in 4K no less - it's impossible to enjoy Goldfinger the same way (even though it technically has a better transfer) because we expect much better than a botched restoration. We expect something similar to the way Spartacus (1960) looks on blu-ray and in 4K.

The Lowry process might have looked spectacular back in 2009, but it looks awful today.

I'm surprised very few people in this thread are talking about this as we are taking the leap to 4K. They continue to use the old Lowry Digital transfers for the 4K streams that I have seen.