List of UHDs that contain HDR10+

[BrownianMotion]

Originally Posted by Agent Kay

He would, also his test was totally unscientific and he also tests DV on an OLED and they need DV

He tested HDR10+ on OLED too. It was a Panasonic.

Panasonic and LG OLEDs (on which he compared DV vs HDR10) are two perennial winners in the big TV shootouts, so he's using high quality OLEDs for his comparisons.

By the way, edge lit TVs need dynamic metadata way more than OLEDs do.

Not sure why this is a shock to you. Dolby Vision was always technically superior on paper, so it shouldn't be a surprise that it seems to be a bigger improvement over HDR10 than HDR10+ is.

[avs commenter]

Robin Hood has both HDR10+ and DV. I have not seen a comparison yet though

[lgans316]

I can sense a bit of OLED bashing in this part of the forum. The TV shootout results and reviews so far have been in favour of OLEDs despite the lower peak brightness. I am sure this could change with 2019 QLEDs and LED-LCDs. For now, OLED TVs offer a balanced overall picture quality.

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by bradnoyes

If I still had my 2016 OLED I would agree but on the newer OLEDs the difference is far less apparent. I've said this before but I think that within a few years both HDR10+ and DV will be borderline irrelevant on higher end TVs of all varieties as dynamic tone mapping features improve.

Even so they will introduce true 12-bit displays at some point. "Full fat" DV (as Geoff calls it) will help.

[ray0414]

Originally Posted by David M

Did Vincent compare HDR10+ against Dolby Vision on the same title? That'd be the real comparison, but I imagine it's hard to come by. Anything else is inconclusive and is just comparing the appearance of two different films.

To do this right you'd need to get some footage, grade it in one of the dynamic metadata systems, output both versions, then compare those.

The upcoming Spears & Munsil test disc should be interesting on this point

Also, if the Panasonic has the best hdr10 tone mapping, the difference will also be less noticeable just adding Dynamic Metadata.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Dubstar

someone mentioned 'GeoffyVision' awhile back - THAT'S what I'm looking forward to seeing

Alas, there are very few people who see what I see - and most other people would say that that's a good thing

[TheSweetieMan]

Originally Posted by lgans316

I can sense a bit of OLED bashing in this part of the forum. The TV shootout results and reviews so far have been in favour of OLEDs despite the lower peak brightness. I am sure this could change with 2019 QLEDs and LED-LCDs. For now, OLED TVs offer a balanced overall picture quality.

Peak brightness is overrated AF.

I’ll take my contrast ratios and black levels over the best HDR tone-mapping, every. God. Damn. Day.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by TheSweetieMan

Peak brightness is overrated AF.

I’ll take my contrast ratios and black levels over the best HDR tone-mapping, every. God. Damn. Day.

It's really not when we're talking about correctly reproducing HDR content as far as its absolute luminance encoding is concerned, but hey: that's where having good tone mapping comes into play, wherever one may find it.

[TheSweetieMan]

Hence why I said I’ll take contrast ratios and black levels over HDR reproduction in the second part of that post.

[Owenjohnston]

Originally Posted by TheSweetieMan

Peak brightness is overrated AF.

I’ll take my contrast ratios and black levels over the best HDR tone-mapping, every. God. Damn. Day.

I find the brightness of Samsung TVs in particular to be sore on the eyes and not representative of real life. The brightness outside (I live in Ireland) tends to be dull / grey or muted not super extreme blues / reds / whites of the Samsung QLED sets, so I'm perfectly happy with the natural look of OLED

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by TheSweetieMan

Hence why I said I’ll take contrast ratios and black levels over HDR reproduction in the second part of that post.

So you'd rather not have HDR at all? Gotcha.

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by Owenjohnston

I find the brightness of Samsung TVs in particular to be sore on the eyes and not representative of real life. The brightness outside (I live in Ireland) tends to be dull / grey or muted not super extreme blues / reds / whites of the Samsung QLED sets, so I'm perfectly happy with the natural look of OLED

Scotland is even more dreary yet some people (cough! cough!) prefer the overly colorful & bright Fox Braveheart disc over the accurate Paramount.

[Agent Kay]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Scotland is even more dreary yet some people (cough! cough!) prefer the overly colorful & bright Fox Braveheart disc over the accurate Paramount.

Accurate to what exactly?

[sapiendut]

So... is HDR10+ still a thing? Any new gigantic title will be released in HDR10+?

[lgans316]

Originally Posted by sapiendut

So... is HDR10+ still a thing? Any new gigantic title will be released in HDR10+?

Alita should be HDR10+. By June 2019, I think Disney would have fully acquired FOX which means Disney decides.

[Agent Kay]

Originally Posted by sapiendut

So... is HDR10+ still a thing? Any new gigantic title will be released in HDR10+?

Alien is petty big

[sapiendut]

Originally Posted by lgans316

Alita should be HDR10+. By June 2019, I think Disney would have fully acquired FOX which means Disney decides.

Perhaps that’s the real reason Disney not doing DV anymore.

[sapiendut]

Originally Posted by Agent Kay

Alien is petty big

I’m referring to something that’s beyond on the list in the beginning of this thread.

[lgans316]

Originally Posted by sapiendut

Perhaps that’s the real reason Disney not doing DV anymore.

No. Many of their movies on streaming platforms appears to feature DV. I think it is either due to licensing issues with Dolby or some other limitation (most likely incompetence).

Samsung remains the only major TV manufacturer not to support DV. Panasonic and Philips 2019 TVs will support both DV and HDR10+.

[avs commenter]

Originally Posted by sapiendut

So... is HDR10+ still a thing? Any new gigantic title will be released in HDR10+?

Here in the US, I can't imagine many people are even equipped to play HDR10+ discs. I believe Samsung is the only TV that has HDR10+. And Panasonic is the only player that has it here. And Panasonic is expensive and not available in most stores.