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bigdaddyhorse · 11-19-2019, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by thatguamguy

The seller has 2000 items for sale, all of them have "more than 10 copies". Some of them have sold more than 100 copies. That sounds more like a bootlegger, because it would be an awful lot to steal and then hang onto, selling individual copies on-line. Either way, something doesn't smell right, but that's just me; if I have to think twice about an ebay seller, I buy from a different seller.

At first I thought it might be a re-seller like MovieMars, who shops for you then cancels/refunds when they can't get something. But those places don't do multiple offerings per listing, and aren't dirt cheap. This is either the mob with a warehouse full of stolen shipments, or a bootlegger.

CrowKiller · 11-19-2019, 10:10 PM

Possibly. That's a lot of work. Unless it's bootlegs on demand and they just put a number. It's also sad because feedback is no help because a lot of people aren't smart enough to know it's bootleg. Hell, at that same store I worked at, we would have people come in trying to sell bootlegs to us, I'd assume unknowing to them. Usually military folks. I'd tell them I can't take it because it's a bootleg. They seem surprised and ask how I can tell. I end up telling them how I can tell, which is the same way anyone with a lick of smarts can tell. Shitty art, blue/purple bottoms, etc. Even if it's a burned disc with stuff written on with a Sharpie, people still seem baffled they have a bootleg. I can also tell it's not someone just trying to play stupid.

They could also be those Chinese or other foreign knockoffs and they're just using stock pictures. Saw plenty of those as well.

Hellhound · 11-19-2019, 10:29 PM

I'm not sure what the speculation is about. I bought a set and they are pressed discs. The seller could just as easily be somebody that buys stuff on the cheap that distributors are looking to clear out and then re-sells them for a profit like Hamiltonbooks. If they were looking to just make money on OOP stuff, they would be better off just selling the third season by itself for a high price.

thatguamguy · 11-19-2019, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Hellhound

I'm not sure what the speculation is about. I bought a set and they are pressed discs.

Chinese bootlegs sold on ebay are generally pressed. Did you actually scan the disc in your computer and compare the results to known specs?

craigbarr2003 · 11-19-2019, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by thatguamguy

The seller has 2000 items for sale, all of them have "more than 10 copies". Some of them have sold more than 100 copies. That sounds more like a bootlegger, because it would be an awful lot to steal and then hang onto, selling individual copies on-line. Either way, something doesn't smell right, but that's just me; if I have to think twice about an ebay seller, I buy from a different seller.

There's a guy (or was anyway) on ebay selling blu ray copies of DOGMA for $35 that were totally bootlegs.

CrowKiller · 11-19-2019, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by thatguamguy

Chinese bootlegs sold on ebay are generally pressed. Did you actually scan the disc in your computer and compare the results to known specs?

Good call. Forgot to mention that as well. At that point, there may be no way to know by looking, unless you know what the legit copies look like. Legit releases can have bad quality art as well, so can't always go by that. Usually the Chinese ones have bottoms that learn more toward gold colored (DVDs), but not always. Haven't seen Chinese blus because the zombies don't buy blus. It's a shame there's so much human scum on this planet that make life harder for decent people.

thatguamguy · 11-19-2019, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by CrowKiller

Haven't seen Chinese blus because the zombies don't buy blus. It's a shame there's so much human scum on this planet that make life harder for decent people.

I can't say with 100% certainty that they're out there, because I've never bought one, but I have seen widespread reports of bootlegged "Game of Thrones" blus being sold on ebay. (Others too, but that specific one was by far the most commonly mentioned.)

jon angell · 11-20-2019, 02:41 AM

no sure but with a price of $79.99 used it must be The Five Venoms

Hellhound · 11-20-2019, 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by thatguamguy

Chinese bootlegs sold on ebay are generally pressed. Did you actually scan the disc in your computer and compare the results to known specs?

Do the Chinese bootleggers waste time and money making counterfeit slipboxes for their counterfeit BDs of cancelled TV show seasons that can be bought for $11 new on Amazon?

thatguamguy · 11-20-2019, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Hellhound

Do the Chinese bootleggers waste time and money making counterfeit slipboxes for their counterfeit BDs

Definitely yes.

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Originally Posted by Hellhound

of cancelled TV show seasons that can be bought for $11 new on Amazon?

I haven't seen any data either way about the bootlegging of cancelled TV show seasons (if you have any, please link it, I'd be curious), so technically I would have to say "Undetermined". But they do bootleg things that can be bought for cheap and new on Amazon, and I don't know why "cancelled TV show seasons" would change it.

You seem to be inferring that Chinese bootleggers only sell their wares on ebay, which is incorrect. Chinese bootleggers produce their bootlegged goods primarily to sell in China. A smaller subset of these bootleggers also sell them on ebay, but even with them, it's unlikely to be their primary source of bootlegging income. So they don't produce goods based solely on what will sell on ebay.

Torrente · 11-20-2019, 02:00 PM

Hellbound said that he bought a set from this seller and that "they actually are legit copies", so I think it would be nice to move on. Everyone made his point. Both are valid.
In this case, however, it seems those are legit copies

thatguamguy · 11-20-2019, 02:26 PM

Incorrect. Hellhound said that.

DVD Josh · 11-20-2019, 03:36 PM

Lost City of Z is showing up at Dollar Tree of all places if you are still looking for a copy.

geomon · 11-20-2019, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Hellhound

Do the Chinese bootleggers waste time and money making counterfeit slipboxes for their counterfeit BDs of cancelled TV show seasons that can be bought for $11 new on Amazon?

As an anime collector who has bought "legit" releases on ebay, yes they do.

The Screaming Feces · 11-20-2019, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Hellhound

If anybody is still trying to track down the OOP Season 3 of the From Dusk Till Dawn TV show, there's an eBay seller selling all three seasons together although obviously not as great a deal if you already have the first two seasons:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-From-Du...53.m2749.l2649

Thanks! I don't have any of the seasons, so I took the plunge. I'll check any slipcovers or slips for English translation issues. Let's see what happens!

Hellhound · 11-20-2019, 06:19 PM

Looks like this is OOP now:

HD Goofnut · 11-21-2019, 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Hellhound

[Show spoiler]

Done.

James Luckard · 11-21-2019, 04:06 AM

This was an MOD BD, but it looks like they've stopped producing it:

I have to say it's no great loss. The compression was APPALLING, and it was only 25gb, so any dark or dimly lit scenes looked like a swarm of pixels. I keep meaning to pick up the UK disc hoping it's at least slightly better than this atrocity. I own nearly 1000 BDs, and it's the most distractingly ugly one of the all.

thecalm_7 · 11-21-2019, 05:29 AM

https://www.amazon.com/Dusk-Till-Daw...%2C263&sr=8-13
Amazon returns are easy if
I ordered these as I was missing Season 3. They arrived via In the same cases that I just saw in a local shop. Scans show same specs as those listed online. No misspelling, paper is good quality, ink on discs is quality. No issues. If theyre fake, I cant find a flaw. Even has inner ring numbers/letters match what I found in shop and my prior copy of S1.

My post was deleted in the piracy thread some time ago. Can bootlegs match those inner ring numbers?

Torrente · 11-21-2019, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by thecalm_7

https://www.amazon.com/Dusk-Till-Daw...%2C263&sr=8-13
Amazon returns are easy if
I ordered these as I was missing Season 3. They arrived via In the same cases that I just saw in a local shop. Scans show same specs as those listed online. No misspelling, paper is good quality, ink on discs is quality. No issues. If theyre fake, I cant find a flaw. Even has inner ring numbers/letters match what I found in shop and my prior copy of S1.

Thanks.

Can you tell us which seller you ordered it from? Two Thumbs Up or wpdvd? (just in case)

11-19-2019, 10:10 PM	#5162
CrowKiller Banned Member since:Feb 2017 4K collection:276 Blu-ray collection:2504 DVD collection:1190 Trading Score:2	Possibly. That's a lot of work. Unless it's bootlegs on demand and they just put a number. It's also sad because feedback is no help because a lot of people aren't smart enough to know it's bootleg. Hell, at that same store I worked at, we would have people come in trying to sell bootlegs to us, I'd assume unknowing to them. Usually military folks. I'd tell them I can't take it because it's a bootleg. They seem surprised and ask how I can tell. I end up telling them how I can tell, which is the same way anyone with a lick of smarts can tell. Shitty art, blue/purple bottoms, etc. Even if it's a burned disc with stuff written on with a Sharpie, people still seem baffled they have a bootleg. I can also tell it's not someone just trying to play stupid. They could also be those Chinese or other foreign knockoffs and they're just using stock pictures. Saw plenty of those as well.

11-19-2019, 10:29 PM	#5163
Hellhound Power Member Top contributor Member since:Aug 2015 Location:Cincinnati, OH 4K collection:549 Blu-ray collection:7197 DVD collection:757 Trading Score:1	I'm not sure what the speculation is about. I bought a set and they are pressed discs. The seller could just as easily be somebody that buys stuff on the cheap that distributors are looking to clear out and then re-sells them for a profit like Hamiltonbooks. If they were looking to just make money on OOP stuff, they would be better off just selling the third season by itself for a high price.

11-20-2019, 02:41 AM	#5168
jon angell Senior Member Top contributor Member since:Oct 2012 Location:san antonio texas 4K collection:226 Blu-ray collection:3730 DVD collection:3840 Trading Score:19	no sure but with a price of $79.99 used it must be The Five Venoms

11-20-2019, 02:00 PM	#5171
Torrente Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Aug 2010 Location:France Blu-ray collection:325 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:51	Hellbound said that he bought a set from this seller and that "they actually are legit copies", so I think it would be nice to move on. Everyone made his point. Both are valid. In this case, however, it seems those are legit copies

11-20-2019, 02:26 PM	#5172
thatguamguy Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Mar 2016 Trading Score:4	Incorrect. Hellhound said that.

11-20-2019, 03:36 PM	#5173
DVD Josh Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jan 2019 4K collection:222 Blu-ray collection:933 DVD collection:229 MA collection:16 Digital collection:373 Trading Score:90	Lost City of Z is showing up at Dollar Tree of all places if you are still looking for a copy.

11-20-2019, 06:19 PM	#5176
Hellhound Power Member Top contributor Member since:Aug 2015 Location:Cincinnati, OH 4K collection:549 Blu-ray collection:7197 DVD collection:757 Trading Score:1	Looks like this is OOP now:

11-21-2019, 04:06 AM	#5178
James Luckard Blu-ray Count Top contributor Member since:Jan 2011 Location:Los Angeles, CA 4K collection:399 Blu-ray collection:1817 Blu-ray reviews: 34	This was an MOD BD, but it looks like they've stopped producing it: I have to say it's no great loss. The compression was APPALLING, and it was only 25gb, so any dark or dimly lit scenes looked like a swarm of pixels. I keep meaning to pick up the UK disc hoping it's at least slightly better than this atrocity. I own nearly 1000 BDs, and it's the most distractingly ugly one of the all.

11-21-2019, 05:29 AM	#5179
thecalm_7 Power Member Top contributor Member since:Apr 2011 Location:The Gulf 4K collection:952 Blu-ray collection:5984 DVD collection:860 iTunes collection:2 Trading Score:126	https://www.amazon.com/Dusk-Till-Daw...%2C263&sr=8-13 Amazon returns are easy if I ordered these as I was missing Season 3. They arrived via In the same cases that I just saw in a local shop. Scans show same specs as those listed online. No misspelling, paper is good quality, ink on discs is quality. No issues. If theyre fake, I cant find a flaw. Even has inner ring numbers/letters match what I found in shop and my prior copy of S1. My post was deleted in the piracy thread some time ago. Can bootlegs match those inner ring numbers?

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