BDs That Are Out of Print (OOP)

[bigdaddyhorse]

I'm sure it's rights issues and contract lengths on a title by title basis. I mean some Scream titles like Assault on Prescient 13 are still in print and that was first released 6 years ago (2013), They Live was issued 7 years back (2012) and still available. Only Swamp Thing and Incredible Melting Man are older than those from the list, and those only by a couple months. Most of the rest are 2015 releases.

Sales could be playing a factor as well, although I would think Swamp Thing would be a consistent, yet slow seller, worth keeping in stock.

[Trekkie313]

Originally Posted by AgentOrange

I don't even think that's necessarily it, these labels (Kino in particular, but also Scream to an extent) have been cranking out titles feverishly in the last couple of years. Maybe some of that was in a rush to get them out before the format dies

Blu-ray isn't going anywhere, however DVD will be dead in the US by 2024 I bet.

[SpaceBlackKnight]

It could be possible that MGM's US rights to Swamp Thing (inherited from the Nelson/Embassy Video catalog Orion had acquired) are expiring and reverting back to StudioCanal (who controls most rights to the Embassy Pictures catalog with the exception of titles MGM had leased to them from the Nelson ownership). Ironically, Swamp Thing was released by United Artists outside of the US and is fully controlled by MGM in those territories, hence how 88's release will likely remain in print and have the uncut version (whereas the US SF release is based on the slightly cut PG version, despite also using the same MGM elements with StudioCanal's logo attached).

If MGM's rights to the Embassy titles are indeed expiring, then that could mean others such as The Fog, The Howling, ESNY, as well as The Producers (which Kino is rumored to have as an MGM title) would be on the verge of going OOP. However, since Shout also has a deal with StudioCanal, they might also try to renew them and/or reissue them with remastered transfers, provided they weren't assigned to package deals that other labels have with SC.

[sandman slim]

Originally Posted by Trekkie313

Blu-ray isn't going anywhere, however DVD will be dead in the US by 2024 I bet.

Haven't been in a store lately, have you?

[Trekkie313]

Originally Posted by sandman slim

Haven't been in a store lately, have you?

I've seen excess DVD only copies of movies flooding discount chains like Big Lots and Dollar General because nobody is buying them.

[Kschreck]

Originally Posted by Trekkie313

Blu-ray isn't going anywhere, however DVD will be dead in the US by 2024 I bet.

There is a reason why lots of shows come to DVD but are now skipping Blu-Ray (like everything Fox). DVD sales are MUCH higher then Blu-Ray to the point where many shows no longer come to the Blu-Ray format at all.

Most people I know won't even touch Blu-Ray. They are DVD only even if they have a 1080 tv. Hell most of them own game consoles that support Blu-Ray and they still refuse to budge.

I read one story on another forum site where this guy updated his father to a 1080p tv and Blu-Ray player and the guy threw a fit demanding to go back to DVD and composite cables because he said the image quality was to clear and he didn't like that.

DVD is here to stay, Blu-Ray and 4K UltraHD is likely to eventually die first. Sucks but that's what the majority of the masses want.

[Trekkie313]

Originally Posted by Kschreck

I read one story on another forum site where this guy updated his father to a 1080p tv and Blu-Ray player and the guy threw a fit demanding to go back to DVD and composite cables because he said the image quality was to clear and he didn't like that.

DVD is here to stay, Blu-Ray and 4K UltraHD is likely to eventually die first. Sucks but that's what the majority of the masses want.

Well the stubborn old fools will die before HD does.

Anyway, we're off topic.

[Kschreck]

Of the recently out of print Shout Factory titles, any of them worth trying to pick up?

[Trekkie313]

Originally Posted by Kschreck

Of the recently out of print Shout Factory titles, any of them worth trying to pick up?

Dead Of Winter and I, Madman.

[ASAPadam]

"The Final Terror" is "sold out" on Shout's website, fwiw. It's still available pretty much everywhere tho.

[Mikeyos]

Originally Posted by ASAPadam

"The Final Terror" is "sold out" on Shout's website, fwiw. It's still available pretty much everywhere tho.

Bummer! I already own this, but I'm sad for people who won't be able to watch this. This is one of my favorite lesser known camp slashers, up there with Just Before Dawn. If you like 80's slashers, I recommend trying to locate it before it gets expensive.

[ASAPadam]

I'm thinking Shout might just be waiting for more copies of The Final Terror, Scarecrows and Windows to be pressed? Could that be why they're listed as "sold out" but not listed as "not available" and grayed out?

[MassiveMovieBuff]

I hate being in this position of being forced to buy up titles that are going OOP without having seen them.

[ASAPadam]

i didn't see "Sleepaway Camp II" mentioned yet -- Shout's site says "Product Note: As of October 11, 2019, this title is OUT OF PRINT."

[Kschreck]

This really sucks. I am a huge horror lover but man I can't afford to keep up with all these Blu-Rays going out of print daily now and it's only going to get a lot worse from here on out.

[PowellPressburger]

I’m not gonna lose it over some Shout titles that may go OOP.

If the film is popular enough another label will end up releasing it.

[whiteberry]

Originally Posted by PowellPressburger

I’m not gonna lose it over some Shout titles that may go OOP.

If the film is popular enough another label will end up releasing it.

Yep especially since these are MGM movies and they are licensing movies to just about every label.

[darkness2918]

Originally Posted by MassiveMovieBuff

I hate being in this position of being forced to buy up titles that are going OOP without having seen them.

On the plus side because they’re going OOP you should have no trouble at least getting back what you paid selling them if you end up not liking them.

[darkness2918]

Originally Posted by PowellPressburger

I’m not gonna lose it over some Shout titles that may go OOP.

If the film is popular enough another label will end up releasing it.

But if the film were popular enough & still selling Shout wouldn’t let them go OOP. I think like the Kino ones these are the slow sellers they’re letting go.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Kschreck

There is a reason why lots of shows come to DVD but are now skipping Blu-Ray (like everything Fox). DVD sales are MUCH higher then Blu-Ray to the point where many shows no longer come to the Blu-Ray format at all.

Most people I know won't even touch Blu-Ray. They are DVD only even if they have a 1080 tv. Hell most of them own game consoles that support Blu-Ray and they still refuse to budge.

I read one story on another forum site where this guy updated his father to a 1080p tv and Blu-Ray player and the guy threw a fit demanding to go back to DVD and composite cables because he said the image quality was to clear and he didn't like that.

DVD is here to stay, Blu-Ray and 4K UltraHD is likely to eventually die first. Sucks but that's what the majority of the masses want.

Actually, DVD's revenue share of the market is only slightly higher than that of blu-ray and 4K combined.

Up thru the week ending June 15, 2019, blu-ray (including 4K) had a 46.9% share of disc revenue. See top line of the chart under "BD share."

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...postcount=1162

Year ending 2018, blu-ray and 4K had a 45.3% share.

What is interesting to note is that in 2018, there were 2,711 titles released on blu-ray (and 4K combined), which was just 21.6% of all titles released on disc, yet those 2,711 blu-ray titles were 45.3% of total disc revenue for 2018.

Year ending 2017, blu-ray and 4K had a 40.1% share.

Year ending 2016, blu-ray and 4K had a 37.1% share.

The trend shows that blu-ray's share is steadily growing.

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...postcount=1042

Also, when you look at the top five sellers on disc each week, most of these were purchased on blu-ray and 4K.

The latest such figures show that 4 of the top 5 sellers on disc were mostly purchased on blu-ray and 4K:

https://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=25821

The three weeks before that showed all 5 of the top 5 sellers were mostly purchased on blu-ray and 4K by a wide margin.

https://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=25786

https://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=25752

https://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=25714