BDs That Are Out of Print (OOP)

[gobad2003]

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Originally Posted by dylrichard02

I think this is OOP. Out of stock everywhere for a while now. Fortunately a region free import it available for around $15

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Good thing I got this exclusive steelbook a couple years back

[dylrichard02]

Originally Posted by joonskeezle

That is really weird. I got mine from Amazon like a month and a half ago for 14 bucks and now it's just completely gone from the internet.

I have had it in my Amazon save for later for a little while and it was there until about a month ago.

[Monterey Jack]

Good thing I got Innerspace years ago.

[bipbop13]

I have what may be a silly question, but there could be an answer, so I'll ask. Is there any way to learn how to guess-timate how long before a title goes oop? Do certain companies keep titles in print longer than others? Do some companies have a limit on how long they're allowed to keep a title in print? I know Shout & Kino do those "Get them before they're gone & oop at the end of the year" type pages on their sites. By the time it gets to that though, the prices start to go through the roof. I was hoping that there would be some way to kind of set up your wish-list to try to limit this. A simple example would be to make sure you place a Kino title ahead of a Marvel title. Marvel titles will be in print in some form probably until the apocalypse. Anyway, just typing my thoughts, and hoping for the best. Thanks in advance for any help/ideas.

[dylrichard02]

Originally Posted by bipbop13

I have what may be a silly question, but there could be an answer, so I'll ask. Is there any way to learn how to guess-timate how long before a title goes oop? Do certain companies keep titles in print longer than others? Do some companies have a limit on how long they're allowed to keep a title in print? I know Shout & Kino do those "Get them before they're gone & oop at the end of the year" type pages on their sites. By the time it gets to that though, the prices start to go through the roof. I was hoping that there would be some way to kind of set up your wish-list to try to limit this. A simple example would be to make sure you place a Kino title ahead of a Marvel title. Marvel titles will be in print in some form probably until the apocalypse. Anyway, just typing my thoughts, and hoping for the best. Thanks in advance for any help/ideas.

I don't know of any specific way, but Vinegar Syndrome's limited editions have a count on their website showing how many are left, so it's pretty easy to tell for them. Other labels, I don't know for sure of a way to tell.

[meremortal]

The major studios don't tend to do any press on when titles are going out of print. But as mentioned, VS use a tally/counter on their site. Shout have been 'going oop' sales lately. And Kino Lorber have a 'While Supplies Last' section.

[ThePhantom]

Originally Posted by bipbop13

Is there any way to learn how to guess-timate how long before a title goes oop?

Others have given good answers, but I will just add that I constantly monitor this very forum for bumps on threads for older releases because occasionally it's someone bumping the thread to say, "Hey, I think this release might be going out of print." Sometimes it's a false alarm, but sometimes it turns out to be true and that title might not make its way to this thread until later or when it's actually confirmed. And by then it might be harder to find a good deal on it. So I keep a close watch on this thread and any bumped threads for older releases I'm interested in for that reason.

[Monterey Jack]

Just buy what you really want ASAP, no matter what studio is releasing it. Waiting for a "good sale" might bite you in the ass later when it goes unexpectedly OOP and the scalpers come out to play.

That said, five years tends to be the lifespan of the average release, especially from the boutique labels.

[ThePhantom]

Originally Posted by Monterey Jack

Just buy what you really want ASAP, no matter what studio is releasing it. Waiting for a "good sale" might bite you in the ass later when it goes unexpectedly OOP and the scalpers come out to play.

This is true and good advice, but I have so many titles on my wishlist I can't possibly afford them all at once, so I have to prioritize using various criteria. One way I do that is by prioritizing releases that might be going out of print soon and might not see any reissue or new-and-improved remaster anytime in the next few years. It's sometimes tricky to determine whether a title going out of print will simply see a new (possibly superior) reissue a year or two down the road, but if you've been a collector long enough and frequent places like this, you start to get a good idea about the releases you really need to prioritize -- or the ones that you can probably hold out on for a superior Blu-ray edition or 4K UHD-BD in the future.

[houseca]

I would comb thru the entire catalog of Anchor Bay, Image and The Weinstein Company/Dimension films. These are all OOP and many titles have not yet dried up. I would then go thru all Fox, MGM, and Twilight Time titles. Most are OOP. Warner, Sony, Lionsgate and Universal have many titles that are OOP, but they are a small minority of their huge catalog, so those by nature are tough to tell what will go OOP. I would automatically buy anything you want from Shout! Factory that has been out >3 years.

[agenda]

Originally Posted by gobad2003

Good thing I got this exclusive steelbook a couple years back

Same here!

[danny24]

Thankfully I am all good with Innerspace, I got the UK steelbook and regular BD. It's an 80's classic and I am rather surprised by it going OOP.

[bigdaddyhorse]

Originally Posted by houseca

I would comb thru the entire catalog of Anchor Bay, Image and The Weinstein Company/Dimension films. These are all OOP and many titles have not yet dried up. I would then go thru all Fox, MGM, and Twilight Time titles. Most are OOP. Warner, Sony, Lionsgate and Universal have many titles that are OOP, but they are a small minority of their huge catalog, so those by nature are tough to tell what will go OOP. I would automatically buy anything you want from Shout! Factory that has been out >3 years.

This is very hit or miss. For instance, They Live and Halloween 2 have been in print since 2012 and still are. Then others disappear a year or 2 later.

Just buy what you want when it comes out. Waiting for a price drop has bitten me so many times, almost as many as not waiting for one. You can't really win, so just enjoy the small victories along the way and try to stay happy.

[dylrichard02]

Originally Posted by bigdaddyhorse

This is very hit or miss. For instance, They Live and Halloween 2 have been in print since 2012 and still are. Then others disappear a year or 2 later.

Just buy what you want when it comes out. Waiting for a price drop has bitten me so many times, almost as many as not waiting for one. You can't really win, so just enjoy the small victories along the way and try to stay happy.

In the case of Halloween 2, Halloween 3, They Live, Prince of Darkness, Psycho sequels, Village of the Damned, and Candyman (plus many others) they are from Universal and no Scream/Uni titles have gone OOP (with the exception of limited edition steelbooks).

Most of the MGM stuff that has come out before 2019 is probably something you should look into if you want those titles. MGM stuff is in limbo between the Fox-WB transition of rights distribution and the upcoming buy-out.

Most other titles, such as ones from WB and Paramount seem to be safe for now, but those deals were fairly recent.

20th Century Fox titles should also be looked into if you want those. They have a relatively small amount in the Scream catalog, but stuff like Lake Placid, Big Trouble in Little China, The Omen collection, and The Fly collection are out from Fox.

[Monterey Jack]

Originally Posted by danny24

Thankfully I am all good with Innerspace, I got the UK steelbook and regular BD. It's an 80's classic and I am rather surprised by it going OOP.

Given how many Dante films have been given the luxe treatment by Shout (and how sparse the extra features were on the existing Blu), I wouldn't be surprised to see a collector's edition of Innerspace within the next few years.

[Bk_Tan]

So Coraline and Paranorman never made the list - was anyone even aware they were out of print?

Granted they are now 12 and 9 years old (how time flies) but obviously that's very recent and they were high profile Universal releases.

Now being re-released by Shout Factory soon, but still interesting to note how nobody knew. I wonder how many copies of something like Coraline were printed and when it eventually sold out.

[Bk_Tan]

Also, with that said, things like 50 First Dates (one of the first movies released on the format) are still obviously in print, but can anyone shed any insight on how often they are reprinted?

Surely something like that wouldn't be on its first pressing, but how would anyone be able to tell no more were pressed until the retailers have no more stock? Do we know how many are pressed on average for a new release? What is the minimum order? When do they get reprinted?

Also what would the difference be between MOD releases and any release? Surely when 50 First Dates runs out, only then would they order the next batch to be pressed? So it would be 'manufactured on demand' in practice. Or do they just keep ordering and storing it in some warehouse? But that doesn't make much sense.

[noiradelic]

Originally Posted by Bk_Tan

Also, with that said, things like 50 First Dates (one of the first movies released on the format) are still obviously in print, but can anyone shed any insight on how often they are reprinted?

Surely something like that wouldn't be on its first pressing, but how would anyone be able to tell no more were pressed until the retailers have no more stock?

This is the easiest question to answer. There is no way to tell with studio titles unless it appears they're OOP because a majority of retailers are out of stock, but inexpensive copies are still available.

Do we know how many are pressed on average for a new release? What is the minimum order? When do they get reprinted?

Also what would the difference be between MOD releases and any release? Surely when 50 First Dates runs out, only then would they order the next batch to be pressed? So it would be 'manufactured on demand' in practice. Or do they just keep ordering and storing it in some warehouse? But that doesn't make much sense.

Unless someone here works in the industry I don't think anyone knows how many are pressed in a run. I imagine it's different now than several years ago and of course it depends on the popularity of the movie. I'm guessing for most films they estimate what sales will be and press more runs before stock gets too low in order to keep titles in circulation. They must store some inventory in warehouses, though maybe not as much as they used to.

Other than burn-on-demand titles, I'd only use the term MOD for WAC, and Sony's and Universal's pressed MOD lines. Even if the end result's the same, if a studio puts out a small movie in one of their main lines, sales are disappointing and they don't repress it, to me that's not technically MOD.

[mikesncc1701]

Counting myself stupid lucky with this. When I found out END OF DAYS went OOP, I went looking around used shops to no avail. For a brief time on May 26th though, a third party on Amazon was selling some for $11.98 with free shipping saying it would be in stock on June 14th. Placed an order just to see what would happen. I was prepared for a cancellation but I'll be damned if it's not out for delivery today.

[bipbop13]

I did figure out a somewhat simple idea. On Amazon, where I get 99% of my movies, I could make folders titled with the date of release. Then I could just buy from the folder with the earliest release date until it's empty & then move on up. Of course, I'd buy the boutique label titles first from each folder. Let me know what you think of this idea, please.