UHD Blu-ray Disc Authentication Poll

[Wendell R. Breland]

Will you folks purchase UHD Blu-ray disc that requires online authentication?

YES, I will buy UHD Blu-ray disc that requires online authentication.

NO, I will not buy UHD Blu-ray disc that requires online authentication.

[spectre08]

slightly ashamed to admit it, but I totally would. I wouldn't be happy about it, but in the end my desire for UHD blu-rays will override that.

[raygendreau]

In the long run, it will all be pay per view or subscription, whether you view in a theater, on line, or on physical disk.

[Agent_DVD]

Originally Posted by spectre08

slightly ashamed to admit it, but I totally would. I wouldn't be happy about it, but in the end my desire for UHD blu-rays will override that.

Totally in the same boat.

[Wendell R. Breland]

For me, had several movie formats over the years and purchased quite a few titles in each format (LaserDisc, DVD, D-Theather and Blu-ray). Have rented most titles to see if they were worthy of purchase.

I am a try before I buy type person. No try (rental), no buy. Even Sony lets you preview UHD titles on the FMP-X10.

[refnulf]

I will not be held ransom because of the temptation of UHD.

[PenguinMaster]

Absolutely not, I will never support any format that requires online authentication.

[FilmFreakosaurus]

I absolutely will not be buying into a format that requires online authentication. It's fraught with peril...

Peril for the consumer, that is.

[Kirsty_Mc]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

For me, had several movie formats over the years and purchased quite a few titles in each format (LaserDisc, DVD, D-Theather and Blu-ray). Have rented most titles to see if they were worthy of purchase.

I am a try before I buy type person. No try (rental), no buy. Even Sony lets you preview UHD titles on the FMP-X10.

My Emphasis.

That is on of the nubs of the problem. Sony Did not release this particular item in Europe, instead launching the FMP-X5 with no service to back it up. Also it was crippled with no hard drive. Rights issues were stated for the lack of a service.

So for UHD Blu-Ray I'm envisaging quite a problem in importing titles. Even if played on a USA player, with this online authentication cr4p it would probably still not play an imported title.

[HeavyHitter]

Hell no.

[Dylan34]

Let's hope this doesn't happen!!!!! I will not support the UHD blu-ray format if it does.

[Peak]

Originally Posted by Kirsty_Mc

My Emphasis.

That is on of the nubs of the problem. Sony Did not release this particular item in Europe, instead launching the FMP-X5 with no service to back it up. Also it was crippled with no hard drive. Rights issues were stated for the lack of a service.

So for UHD Blu-Ray I'm envisaging quite a problem in importing titles. Even if played on a USA player, with this online authentication cr4p it would probably still not play an imported title.

Due to many factors, even though I live in Sweden, I am running on my imported Oppo player from US, and I buy all my Blu-rays from Amazon.com as Region A. I prefer that, and if they choose to limit my options, I will have to sit tight on my current 1080p collection.

I had the first Samsung Blu-ray player (which I remember with equal joy and pain ). I will own the first Ultra HD player released as well, to be able to utilize my 143" 2.35:1 screen to the max. Unfortunately only if they can restrain themselves from incorporating this controlling sh*t!

[Deathbymonkeys]

I would but I'd be super pissed off. I hate the idea and it would seriously make me only get stuff like star wars or transformers. I'd buy a lot less.

[Geoff D]

Bring it on.

[HarcourtMudd]

I voted no (as in, HELL no!). Even with physical media, the studios want us to buy into that whole "you are not buying the movie, just the right to watch it" crap; in effect my entire library is leased...?!? By definition, if something is leased, the "true owner" can revoke that lease at any time (I would pay real money to see them try). Sorry, but I don't play that game...

In another thread, someone mentioned DIVX (the defunct format, not the codec), and drew the comparison between that failed format and this whole UHD authentication/limited play stuff. The difference is that, almost two decades ago the format failed because people knew what it was to actually own something. The current generation has been raised in a world where everything is web-based (the so-called "cloud"), and they are just fine with the idea of their "property" being at the mercy of some server owner over whom they have no control (even though they "paid" for it). The scary thing is that this might actually fly with the current mentality of J6P....

[Kirsty_Mc]

Originally Posted by HarcourtMudd

I voted no (as in, HELL no!). Even with physical media, the studios want us to buy into that whole "you are not buying the movie, just the right to watch it" crap; in effect my entire library is leased...?!? By definition, if something is leased, the "true owner" can revoke that lease at any time (I would pay real money to see them try). Sorry, but I don't play that game...

In another thread, someone mentioned DIVX (the defunct format, not the codec), and drew the comparison between that failed format and this whole UHD authentication/limited play stuff. The difference is that, almost two decades ago the format failed because people knew what it was to actually own something. The current generation has been raised in a world where everything is web-based (the so-called "cloud"), and they are just fine with the idea of their "property" being at the mercy of some server owner over whom they have no control (even though they "paid" for it). The scary thing is that this might actually fly with the current mentality of J6P....

I really don't think so, especially for the physical media market. That's why we buy physical media. It's like a book, you don't own the copyright, but the book is yours to read any time and anywhere you want to read it.

Despite all the hype over downloading and streaming, here in the UK they are launching a dedicated vinyl chart as sales of this ancient physical media are soaring. Now I don't think this is wholly down to old folk. I think this newer generation is quite clued up on where they stand with digital rights and are choosing to buy vinyl for the albums they will cherish going forward.

[stevo4264]

Not in this Lifetime.

[HarcourtMudd]

Originally Posted by Kirsty_Mc

I really don't think so, especially for the physical media market. That's why we buy physical media. It's like a book, you don't own the copyright, but the book is yours to read any time and anywhere you want to read it.

Despite all the hype over downloading and streaming, here in the UK they are launching a dedicated vinyl chart as sales of this ancient physical media are soaring. Now I don't think this is wholly down to old folk. I think this newer generation is quite clued up on where they stand with digital rights and are choosing to buy vinyl for the albums they will cherish going forward.

I honestly hope that you are right, my friend. My comments were largely reflective of the stance that Microsoft takes with regard to their software (they even state as much in the EULA), and the fact that most PC games anymore also need internet "permission" to play/install. But, maybe I'm being a bit pessimistic in this case...

[Mr. Joshua]

Originally Posted by HarcourtMudd

I voted no (as in, HELL no!). Even with physical media, the studios want us to buy into that whole "you are not buying the movie, just the right to watch it" crap; in effect my entire library is leased...?!? By definition, if something is leased, the "true owner" can revoke that lease at any time (I would pay real money to see them try). Sorry, but I don't play that game...

In another thread, someone mentioned DIVX (the defunct format, not the codec), and drew the comparison between that failed format and this whole UHD authentication/limited play stuff. The difference is that, almost two decades ago the format failed because people knew what it was to actually own something. The current generation has been raised in a world where everything is web-based (the so-called "cloud"), and they are just fine with the idea of their "property" being at the mercy of some server owner over whom they have no control (even though they "paid" for it). The scary thing is that this might actually fly with the current mentality of J6P....

Movie studios are turning into the IRS/Government. You never own your car or your house. Don't pay your property taxes and they take it. Movie studios will take your movies...

[BozQ]

Let's not be hysterical now. This is just merely a poll for our opinions.

For me, it's obviously a no. I will not invest in a format with something as ludicrous as online authentication.