4K Blu-ray Confirmed, Coming in

[PenguinMaster]

With 3D it's a personal preference as to whether someone thinks a movie looks better in 2D or 3D. With me it depends on the movie and whether I'm in the mood to watch 3D or not. 3D movies are bundled with their 2D versions and plenty of people (myself included) watch both.

With 4K I highly doubt there will be anyone arguing that 2K looks better. Plenty of people won't want to upgrade because of the expense (this is true of upgrading from DVD to Blu-ray as well) but they aren't saying that 4K looks worse as many people do with 3D. There certainly would never be a case where someone with a 4K TV would ever watch the 2K version of a movie on that TV when they have the 4K version.

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by PenguinMaster

With 3D it's a personal preference as to whether someone thinks a movie looks better in 2D or 3D. With me it depends on the movie and whether I'm in the mood to watch 3D or not. 3D movies are bundled with their 2D versions and plenty of people (myself included) watch both.

With 4K I highly doubt there will be anyone arguing that 2K looks better. Plenty of people won't want to upgrade because of the expense (this is true of upgrading from DVD to Blu-ray as well) but they aren't saying that 4K looks worse as many people do with 3D. There certainly would never be a case where someone with a 4K TV would ever watch the 2K version of a movie on that TV when they have the 4K version.

The problem is, resolution is nothing and compression is everything

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Thanks for the vids mr P, I'm a cat man myself (although I had to have one of my beloved moggies put down two days before Christmas) and the meds aren't too extreme, I swore off the morphine pretty quick because it made me feel sick so I've been sticking to regular paracetamol and ibuprofen, with just a dash of codeine. I'm on da blood thinners too because I can't put any weight on the leg for a minimum of two weeks.

And yes, I slipped on a steep slope slick with rain, my left peg caught underneath me and as I came down I heard a loud 'CROKK' as the leg snapped. As I pulled the leg out I could see that my foot was flopping around at a funny angle and I knew I was ****ed. The doctor was very impressed with my high pain threshold.

Figured it had to be something like that as it’s the result of high energy trauma. As to dem blood thinners, super important, just make sure you’re also taking something to protect your tummy while on them.

Btw, several weeks ago, we adopted a homeless cat that showed up at our door. Long story. She’s a sweetheart and looks like a tiger .

[Tech-UK]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Figured it had to be something like that as it’s the result of high energy trauma. As to dem blood thinners, super important, just make sure you’re also taking something to protect your tummy while on them.

Btw, several weeks ago, we adopted a homeless cat that showed up at our door. Long story. She’s a sweetheart and looks like a tiger .

A lady tiger.

Guess the movie reference!

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Figured it had to be something like that as it’s the result of high energy trauma. As to dem blood thinners, super important, just make sure you’re also taking something to protect your tummy while on them.

Btw, several weeks ago, we adopted a homeless cat that showed up at our door. Long story. She’s a sweetheart and looks like a tiger .

Heh. One of the doctors asked me what happened, he said "so, did you come off your motorbike?". If only the story was that cool.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Tech-UK

A lady tiger.
Guess the movie reference!

unless you somehow got access to one of my wife’s and my old ‘personal’ videos from our safe that we made back in-the-day when we were in a playful mood one evening….I’m blocking.

So what feature film? Who are you referring to?

[Tech-UK]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

unless you somehow got access to one of my wife’s and my old ‘personal’ videos from our safe that we made back in-the-day when we were in a playful mood one evening….I’m blocking.

So what feature film? Who are you referring to?

When you wrote; "She’s a sweetheart and looks like a tiger". It just reminded me of the part in Scarface when Tony goes to buy the Porsche, and he is talking about tigers.

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Heh. One of the doctors asked me what happened, he said "so, did you come off your motorbike?". If only the story was that cool.

I did that Xmas eve 2013 and it was not worth the story

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by x RadicalAura x

What do y'all foresee combo packs looking like once UHD 4K Blu-rays are a thing? Now we're gonna have VOD, 2D 1080P Blu-ray, 3D 1080P Blu-ray, 2D 4K Blu-ray, 3D 4K Blu-ray, DVD.

Do you think they'll keep the 1080P vs. 4K Blu-rays in separate combo pack offerings or combine them like they did with 1080P Blu-ray/DVD?

there won't be 3D 4K Blu-ray. personally I would like UHD, (3D), HD in the pack anything else is useless.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by Dylan34

At first, I'm sure we'll just get the 4K blu by itself just like it was when blu-ray was first released.

I see it more like 3D. Studios know people like options and most people won't have a 4k player and TV everywhere early on.


Let me put it this way, if it is 4k by itself then I won't be buying them until I have a 4k environment (like I did with BD). But if they are combo packs with a HD version also I will buy them from the get go (like I did with 3D) because it makes sense (saves on a double dip later and you have a small collection of films to pick from when you finally get the new equipment and install it)

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by BozQ

Sigh. Doesn't look like HFR is going to make it.

If there is 60p as mentioned then there is some HFR (i.e. the hobbit is 48p<60p)

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by RedIsNotBlue

Theoretically could they put a 1080p version of a film on the same disc as the 4K version?

yes but it would probably be useless to do so and it would take up space.

What I mean is that I don't know if every HD BD player out there can handle a "larger" disk (let's say 100GB BD disks) and if not then that disk won't work on that HD BD player and in that sense having an HD copy on that disk would be useless for those players, on the other hand if the guy has a 4k BD player he won't need the 1080p version because the 4k player will just down scale the 4k to 1080p so it is definitely useless for those players.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by Jimmy Smith

the higher capacity discs can't be read by current Blurays.

that is not necessarily true. the drives in most BD players manufactured after 2010 can handle the larger capacity disks. And some players definitely can handle them.

[FilmFreakosaurus]

Originally Posted by Anthony P

that is not necessarily true. the drives in most BD players manufactured after 2010 can handle the larger capacity disks. And some players definitely can handle them.

But there is nothing besides the drives to play them. The new discs may need other supporting software and hardware supporting the drives, which the current players do not have.

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by Anthony P

If there is 60p as mentioned then there is some HFR (i.e. the hobbit is 48p<60p)

It is not worth building a spec around 3 existing movies, that would be stupid

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by FilmFreakosaurus

The new discs may need other supporting software and hardware supporting the drives, which the current players do not have.

not sure what you mean. Are you talking the new UBD specs (such as playing a 4k 60p HVEC copy of the film) or just 100GB BD disks? If the former then I agree but it is irrelevant to the discussion since Jim said "the higher capacity discs can't be read by current Blurays" the assumption is the data is not the issue. If the latter (for example if some of the longer films like LOTR or Cleopatra that are split on two BD50's came out as a single BD100 with the same content) then you are wrong, there are some stand alone BD players out there that can read and play back 100GB disks (I have seen BDXL work on them), the issue is not,like Jim stated, that none of them can but that not all of them (I am guessing) can do so. That means that Bob might buy a 100GB disk and the 1080p content will play on his 1080p player but when Joe tries that same disk it does not play in his 1080p player.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by dvdmike

It is not worth building a spec around 3 existing movies, that would be stupid

agree (especially since 48p might not necessarily work well with the TVs). But my point was simply that if 48p is considered HFR then 60p should also be considered HFR since it is higher and so "Sigh. Doesn't look like HFR is going to make it." is wrong

[ArmyOfDarknessAW]

I just picked up a 4K tv today so I'm definitely looking forward to 4K Blu-ray. I basically went fully digital over the past 2 years, but 4K Blu-ray will draw me back to disc.

[jono3000]

Originally Posted by ArmyOfDarknessAW

I just picked up a 4K tv today so I'm definitely looking forward to 4K Blu-ray. I basically went fully digital over the past 2 years, but 4K Blu-ray will draw me back to disc.

Great! What TV did you get?

[ArmyOfDarknessAW]

Originally Posted by jono3000

Great! What TV did you get?

The 50" Vizio P series. I have to say I'm very impressed especially based on the price ($698). So far I've watched a few episodes of blacklist on Netflix in 4K and my jaw dropped.