Paramount/DreamWorks fallout... a primal scream therapy thread for Blu-ray fans - Page 18 - Blu-ray Forum

krinkle · 08-21-2007, 02:45 AM

Let me first say that I, like everyone here is very upset about this announcement.

But I also want to say:

If Piracy gets worse the Studios have ONLY THEMSELVES TO BLAME.

At this point how can any consumer be expected to buy two formats? My feeling is that this announcment will cause the war to drag on forever. We are now headed for SACD and DVD Audio.

Honestly I hope that Paramount's movies are all ripped off because they made the choice to leave BD+ and better copy protection behind.

Would serve them right for going HD-DVD exclusive now in such an anti-consumer way.

I am never going to buy HD-DVD, and am considering scaling back my Blu-ray purchases to must have titles only.

CJ P · 08-21-2007, 02:50 AM

WOW, I can't have what I want so that justifies stealing?

Banjo · 08-21-2007, 02:51 AM

Yes, it will. People will just rip the movie out of the HD DVD and burn it onto a Blu-ray disc.

ClaytonMG · 08-21-2007, 02:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CJ P

Except the ones SPECIFICIALLY CITED in the press release as being HD-DVD exclusive like oh, Transformers. Yeesh are people that dilusional? I guess you can wait until it doesn't come out on BD and then be surprised for some reason. Not sure what you benefit from fooling yourself though.

Right on. But! Lets remember when freaken Universal announced his movies for HD-DVD and they had to print an appology the next day... Though I don't think any studio is stupid enough to do that again, it's possible. I mean, they did switch to a format that is dying. Why the hell would you bored the Titanic just a little while before the iceberg?

smiley · 08-21-2007, 02:57 AM

Sounds logical. Once the price of BD-R discs goes down a little. Then people that only want blu-rays should be able to buy movies that somone ripped from HD-DVD and put on to blu-ray. Even at the current price of BD-R it's still practical.

blitz6speed · 08-21-2007, 02:59 AM

More i think about it, more i am ok with it. HD DVD is cracked for the life of the format, so i will just rent/rip the discs and burn them onto BD-R discs for ~8 bux a peice. Cheaper then buying retail paramount blu-ray discs anyway. So in a way, im saving money by not supporting paramount anymore.

E-Dogg · 08-21-2007, 03:03 AM

In the wake of the disappointing news by Paramount comitting treachery, what have you done to show your support for Blu-Ray? I bought two exclusive Blu-Ray titles, "Black Hawk Down" and "Underworld Evolution."

Gamma_Winstead · 08-21-2007, 03:05 AM

I bought underworld, HoFD and Blood Diamond today!

statikcat · 08-21-2007, 03:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blitz6speed

More i think about it, more i am ok with it. HD DVD is cracked for the life of the format, so i will just rent/rip the discs and burn them onto BD-R discs for ~8 bux a peice. Cheaper then buying retail paramount blu-ray discs anyway. So in a way, im saving money by not supporting paramount anymore.

Is their quality loss when going from HD DVD to BD? Dont you have to re-encode the video causing the loss?

Banjo · 08-21-2007, 03:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by statikcat

Is their quality loss when going from HD DVD to BD? Dont you have to re-encode the video causing the loss?

I doubt it because they use the same encoding as we do.

E-Dogg · 08-21-2007, 03:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gamma626

I bought underworld, HoFD and Blood Diamond today!

Excellent news!!! Continue to show your support people. The blow today was a big one, but Fox has our backs and we gained a lot more than we lost.

Lepton · 08-21-2007, 03:12 AM

Piracy is certainly one alternative. But as a movie fan... I'm already overwhelmed with more than 50 BDs I have not seen... just sitting on the shelf.

I can probably live without Blade or Glory or Transformers indefinitely... they aren't the kinds of movies I enjoy. But Simpsons and Die Hard 4... that is another story!

DJeffries · 08-21-2007, 03:13 AM

Ordered 10 BDs today

blackhawktraffic · 08-21-2007, 03:13 AM

Freaking Paramount is retarded, and I laugh at their stupid decision.

Heavens Downfall · 08-21-2007, 03:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by makeusleep

I am done with Microsoft. I never owned a Apple computer before but come October I will be ordering the new 24inch iMac with leopard OS.

I love my Mac, and my Iphone! Screw microsoft!

Lepton · 08-21-2007, 03:15 AM

I was thinking about taking the two Paramount movies I own (Shooter and Flags of our Fathers) and mailing them back to Paramount.

With also maybe... a dog turd... or a $100 bill torn into little tiny pieces. Something eloquent and/or artistic.

Jodi · 08-21-2007, 03:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CptGreedle

Apple computers are superior, easier, smarter, light-years ahead of Micro$oft... and just cooler all around!
Microsoft has always been the kind of company to copy (or steal, or monopolize) other people's work and claim it as their own. Windows was based on Mac OS. Vista is an exact copy of Mac OS 10.4! (It's actually really really pathetically sad).
I have done well myself not buying into Micro$oft's war machine. Just get a mac, use non-M$ products, avoid windows when you can. I don't blame Bill Gates that much anymore.. but what he created is a monster!

BOYCOTT MICRO$OFT!

Amen to that, Captain!!!!!!!

My Mac is 4 1/2 years old, yet I still love the hell out of it!!

Can't wait til next year when I finally upgrade to either the new iMac or maybe even the Mac Pro.

Jodi

P.S. F**K Micro$oft!!!!!

P.S.S. I think, therefore iMac

octogon · 08-21-2007, 03:22 AM

FUTURE PAIN for Comic Fans:
With UNIVERSAL and PARAMOUNT on the OTHER SIDE now, this parallels tragically with Comic Franchises MARVEL (Games - Microsoft; Movies - Paramount & Universal...except XMEN and SPIDEY, thank GOD!!) and DC (Games - Sony; Movies - Warner). With the increased popularity of Comics to film, a dark cloud is forming for High-Def Blu-Ray Media...with DVD as the silver lining. Now the real kicker...IF WARNER DEFECTS, this war will indeed become very BLOODY!

Dotpattern · 08-21-2007, 03:24 AM

From a business/consumer stand point, today's news is a pretty big blow to the BD camp. On a personal note, however, I realized that to date I haven't purchased a single Paramount BD. And the releases that I'm excited about, Close Encounters, Ratatouille, Cars, Blade Runner, Spider-Man, not a single one is a Paramount title.

So I was curious (and I'm sorry if this has already been posted) and looked up the highest grossing films of all time. With the exception of 2 Spielberg-directed movies, there isn't a single title by Paramount (or Universal) in the top 20...or top 30!...that I'm interested in getting in hi def.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...grossing_films

Lepton · 08-21-2007, 03:25 AM

The BD people have been enjoying their "success" for too long. They are making a tidy profit on players at $500+, selling discs for $10 or $15 more than the same DVD, and proclaiming victory as often as possible.

If they were intelligent about business... they would take an unfortunate lesson from Microsoft. You undercut your competition out of the gate. THEN jack up prices to increase margins. This is exactly the HD-DVD strategy.

It is about time to end this, and get it DONE. Stop messing around by milking the market. Drop prices, increase sales, get a 90% market share. Business 101.

08-21-2007, 02:45 AM	#341
krinkle Senior Member Member since:Apr 2007 Blu-ray collection:41 Trading Score:10	Will the Paramount Announcement Cause More Piracy? Let me first say that I, like everyone here is very upset about this announcement. But I also want to say: If Piracy gets worse the Studios have ONLY THEMSELVES TO BLAME. At this point how can any consumer be expected to buy two formats? My feeling is that this announcment will cause the war to drag on forever. We are now headed for SACD and DVD Audio. Honestly I hope that Paramount's movies are all ripped off because they made the choice to leave BD+ and better copy protection behind. Would serve them right for going HD-DVD exclusive now in such an anti-consumer way. I am never going to buy HD-DVD, and am considering scaling back my Blu-ray purchases to must have titles only.

08-21-2007, 03:03 AM	#347
E-Dogg Expert Member Member since:Jun 2007 Blu-ray collection:159	What Have You Done To Show Your Loyalty? In the wake of the disappointing news by Paramount comitting treachery, what have you done to show your support for Blu-Ray? I bought two exclusive Blu-Ray titles, "Black Hawk Down" and "Underworld Evolution."

08-21-2007, 03:24 AM	#359
Dotpattern Blu-ray Guru Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Southern California 4K collection:407 Blu-ray collection:1505	Interesting Thing About Paramount From a business/consumer stand point, today's news is a pretty big blow to the BD camp. On a personal note, however, I realized that to date I haven't purchased a single Paramount BD. And the releases that I'm excited about, Close Encounters, Ratatouille, Cars, Blade Runner, Spider-Man, not a single one is a Paramount title. So I was curious (and I'm sorry if this has already been posted) and looked up the highest grossing films of all time. With the exception of 2 Spielberg-directed movies, there isn't a single title by Paramount (or Universal) in the top 20...or top 30!...that I'm interested in getting in hi def. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...grossing_films

08-21-2007, 03:25 AM	#360
Lepton Member Member since:Jan 2007	Blu-ray group resting on laurels, needs to wake up! The BD people have been enjoying their "success" for too long. They are making a tidy profit on players at $500+, selling discs for $10 or $15 more than the same DVD, and proclaiming victory as often as possible. If they were intelligent about business... they would take an unfortunate lesson from Microsoft. You undercut your competition out of the gate. *THEN* jack up prices to increase margins. This is exactly the HD-DVD strategy. It is about time to end this, and get it *DONE. Stop messing around by milking the market. Drop prices, increase sales, get a 90% market share. Business 101*.

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08-21-2007, 02:50 AM	#342
CJ P Active Member Member since:Jun 2007	WOW, I can't have what I want so that justifies stealing?

08-21-2007, 02:51 AM	#343
Banjo Blu-ray Guru Member since:Dec 2006 Location:Ontario, Canada Blu-ray collection:143	Yes, it will. People will just rip the movie out of the HD DVD and burn it onto a Blu-ray disc.

08-21-2007, 02:57 AM	#345
smiley Active Member Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Barron, WI Blu-ray collection:144	Sounds logical. Once the price of BD-R discs goes down a little. Then people that only want blu-rays should be able to buy movies that somone ripped from HD-DVD and put on to blu-ray. Even at the current price of BD-R it's still practical.

08-21-2007, 02:59 AM	#346
blitz6speed Blu-ray Guru Member since:Oct 2006 Location:Anaheim Hills, CA Trading Score:8	More i think about it, more i am ok with it. HD DVD is cracked for the life of the format, so i will just rent/rip the discs and burn them onto BD-R discs for ~8 bux a peice. Cheaper then buying retail paramount blu-ray discs anyway. So in a way, im saving money by not supporting paramount anymore.

08-21-2007, 03:05 AM	#348
Gamma_Winstead Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:Jul 2007 Location:U.S.G. Ishimura 4K collection:118 Blu-ray collection:764 Blu-ray reviews: 36 Trading Score:6	I bought underworld, HoFD and Blood Diamond today!

08-21-2007, 03:12 AM	#352
Lepton Member Member since:Jan 2007	Piracy is certainly one alternative. But as a movie fan... I'm already overwhelmed with more than 50 BDs I have not seen... just sitting on the shelf. I can probably live without Blade or Glory or Transformers indefinitely... they aren't the kinds of movies I enjoy. But Simpsons and Die Hard 4... that is another story!

08-21-2007, 03:13 AM	#353
DJeffries Active Member Member since:Mar 2007 Location:The middle of nowhereland Blu-ray collection:673	Ordered 10 BDs today

08-21-2007, 03:13 AM	#354
blackhawktraffic Blu-ray Guru Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Upland, CA 4K collection:17 Blu-ray collection:18 Blu-ray reviews: 4 Trading Score:228	Freaking Paramount is retarded, and I laugh at their stupid decision.

08-21-2007, 03:15 AM	#356
Lepton Member Member since:Jan 2007	I was thinking about taking the two Paramount movies I own (Shooter and Flags of our Fathers) and mailing them back to Paramount. With also maybe... a dog turd... or a $100 bill torn into little tiny pieces. Something eloquent and/or artistic.

08-21-2007, 03:22 AM	#358
octogon Member Member since:Jan 2007	FUTURE PAIN for Comic Fans: With UNIVERSAL and PARAMOUNT on the OTHER SIDE now, this parallels tragically with Comic Franchises MARVEL (Games - Microsoft; Movies - Paramount & Universal...except XMEN and SPIDEY, thank GOD!!) and DC (Games - Sony; Movies - Warner). With the increased popularity of Comics to film, a dark cloud is forming for High-Def Blu-Ray Media...with DVD as the silver lining. Now the real kicker...IF WARNER DEFECTS, this war will indeed become very BLOODY!

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