List of 4K film transfers on Blu-ray shot on film (non-digitally shot)

[Brightstar]

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

I should have clarified that I was talking about vertical resolution.

maybe this will help

http://pic.templetons.com/brad/photo/pixels.html

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by joliefan

maybe this will help

http://pic.templetons.com/brad/photo/pixels.html

I know what makes up 35mm, but thank you for the additional info. My point was that 4K is double the vertical resolution of 4K: 1080 vs. 2160.

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

Most films are already shot in 4K (35mm). The problem is that most studios have primarily been using 2K digital intermediaries up until the last several years, which is of course half the resolution of 4K.

35mm is closer to 6k than 4k

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by kristoffer

Keeping an eye on this thread. So far the new 4K mastered looks like Superbit all over again.

A bit different than SuperBit . There are different levels of benefit with the ‘Mastered in 4K’ Blus.

Greatest benefit be to those with a Sony Triluminos display chain (Blu-ray player and TV) in order to take advantage of the *Expanded Color*( https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...ab#post7391680 ) ……and a Sony 4K Triluminos tv, for the later will recognize the metadata on the disc and kick in a proprietary upscaling algorithm which is based upon the same used at Sony Pictures to have downscaled the motion picture from 4K to HD in the first place.

Least benefit be to those with none of the above, i.e. you do get the benefit of a 4K digital master used as the source and a home media encoding with a cbr of roughly 34Mbps - 40Mbps….which begs the question to longtime bitrate followers and debators, exactly how useful/important are bitrates in the upper thirties for the vast majority of the footage of typical motion pictures.

[nagysaudio]

There's a lot of movies missing and The Terminator still has not been added...

The Terminator - 4K Lowry scan, Lightstorm restoration as per Van Ling.
The Blue Lagoon - 4K scan.
First Blood - European release, 4K scan.
Rambo: First Blood Part II - European release, 4K scan.
Rambo III - European release, 4K scan.
Sleepless in Seattle - 4K scan.
The Abyss - 4K scan (Lowry) when it releases late Summer 2013 in Europe.
True Lies - 4K scan (Lowry) when it releases late Summer 2013 in Europe.
Aladdin - 4K scan, already out in Europe.
Beauty and the Beast - 4K scan.
Enter the Dragon - 4K scan, releasing next month.
The Exorcist - 4K scan, releasing Fall 2013.
Fantastic Voyage - 4K scan, releasing end of 2013.
The Fox and the Hound - 4K scan.
Lethal Weapon
Lethal Weapon 2
Lethal Weapon 3
Lethal Weapon 4 - All received 4K remasters in U.S. and Europe.
The Little Mermaid - 4K scan, releasing October 2013.
Pocahontas - 4K scan.
Mad Max - 4K scan
The Road Warrior - 4K scan, old and future disc.
Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome - 4K scan.
Sorcerer - 4K scan as per director himself. Releasing fall 2013.
Alice in Wonderland - 4K Lowry scan.
Bambi - 4K scan.
Cobra - 4K scan.
Cyborg - 4K scan.
Demolition Man - 4K scan.
Dumbo - 4K Lowry scan.
Enemy Mine - 4K scan.
Fantasia
The Fugitive - 4K scan, releasing September 2013.
Independence Day - 4K scan, releasing Fall 2013 in 3D.
Little Shop of Horrors - 4K scan.
Peter Pan
Pinoccio
Pulp Fiction
Raging Bull
Sleeping Beauty
Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs
Tango & Cash
Top Gun 3D - I mean this was just released a few months ago and it's not on the list??

And I can go on and on and on and on....

[L'armée des ombres]

Originally Posted by nagysaudio

There's a lot of movies missing and The Terminator still has not been added...

The Terminator - 4K Lowry scan, Lightstorm restoration as per Van Ling.
The Blue Lagoon - 4K scan.
First Blood - European release, 4K scan.
Rambo: First Blood Part II - European release, 4K scan.
Rambo III - European release, 4K scan.
Sleepless in Seattle - 4K scan.
The Abyss - 4K scan (Lowry) when it releases late Summer 2013 in Europe.
True Lies - 4K scan (Lowry) when it releases late Summer 2013 in Europe.
Aladdin - 4K scan, already out in Europe.
Beauty and the Beast - 4K scan.
Enter the Dragon - 4K scan, releasing next month.
The Exorcist - 4K scan, releasing Fall 2013.
Fantastic Voyage - 4K scan, releasing end of 2013.
The Fox and the Hound - 4K scan.
Lethal Weapon
Lethal Weapon 2
Lethal Weapon 3
Lethal Weapon 4 - All received 4K remasters in U.S. and Europe.
The Little Mermaid - 4K scan, releasing October 2013.
Pocahontas - 4K scan.
Mad Max - 4K scan
The Road Warrior - 4K scan, old and future disc.
Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome - 4K scan.
Sorcerer - 4K scan as per director himself. Releasing fall 2013.
Alice in Wonderland - 4K Lowry scan.
Bambi - 4K scan.
Cobra - 4K scan.
Cyborg - 4K scan.
Demolition Man - 4K scan.
Dumbo - 4K Lowry scan.
Enemy Mine - 4K scan.
Fantasia
The Fugitive - 4K scan, releasing September 2013.
Independence Day - 4K scan, releasing Fall 2013 in 3D.
Little Shop of Horrors - 4K scan.
Peter Pan
Pinoccio
Pulp Fiction
Raging Bull
Sleeping Beauty
Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs
Tango & Cash
Top Gun 3D - I mean this was just released a few months ago and it's not on the list??

And I can go on and on and on and on....

Links links links links links links links links links links links links links links links links links links links links links links links links links links links links links links links
and i could go on and on, i'm not taking your word for these

[nagysaudio]

Originally Posted by L'armée des ombres

Links links links links links links links links links links links links links links links links links links links links links links links links links links links links links links links
and i could go on and on, i'm not taking your word for these

Look, sometimes it's not just about the links. Disney has scanned all of their animated movies at 4K, this is just something that's been known for ever. Most of these Disney titles are listed on Lowry/Reliance Media's website. Same with a lot of Warner titles.

Most of these movies have screenshots on Capsaholic website. It's very easy to see the difference between a 4K scan and telecine.

And a link to what are you looking for? A review, where the reviewer made the same logical assumption? A press release from the studio? A blog? Twitter?

I posted you a quote and a link directly from Van Ling, who was working on the remaster of The Terminator, before he left the project. How much more proof can you possibly need?

[42041]

The Top Gun 3D conversion was done at 2K.
Some of the others are the usual wild speculation by "nagysaudio".

[L'armée des ombres]

Originally Posted by nagysaudio

Look, sometimes it's not just about the links. Disney has scanned all of their animated movies at 4K, this is just something that's been known for ever. Most of these Disney titles are listed on Lowry/Reliance Media's website. Same with a lot of Warner titles.

Most of these movies have screenshots on Capsaholic website. It's very easy to see the difference between a 4K scan and telecine.

And a link to what are you looking for? A review, where the reviewer made the same logical assumption? A press release from the studio? A blog? Twitter?

No reviews, simple press release will do.
Also some of those aren't even out yet.

[nagysaudio]

Originally Posted by 42041

The Top Gun 3D conversion was done at 2K.
Some of the others are the usual wild speculation by "nagysaudio".

The scan was done at 6K.

[nagysaudio]

Originally Posted by L'armée des ombres

No reviews, simple press release will do.
Also some of those aren't even out yet.

If you're only accepting press release directly from the studio, then you will miss out on 90% of the 4K scans. In which case, what's the point?

[42041]

A Fistful of Dollars was restored in 4K, but this transfer is not the one that was released in North America. The 4K restoration is only available on the Italian release, to my knowledge.
http://www.creativeplanetnetwork.com...da-vinci/11781

[nagysaudio]

http://www.lowrydigital.com/EPK.pdf

Take a look at second to the last page. 99.9% of all of these are 4K. Should take a while to update your list.

[Sky_Captain]

Originally Posted by 42041

A Fistful of Dollars was restored in 4K, but this transfer is not the one that was released in North America. The 4K restoration is only available on the Italian release, to my knowledge.
http://www.creativeplanetnetwork.com...da-vinci/11781

The notes inside the booklet of the Italian release, state 2K. Whether that's an error, I don't know. They definitely mention DFL doing the work.
The German release stems from the same scan, but they tweaked the brightness levels, (improved, IMO).

[MisterXDTV]

Originally Posted by Sky_Captain

The notes inside the booklet of the Italian release, state 2K. Whether that's an error, I don't know. They definitely mention DFL doing the work.
The German release stems from the same scan, but they tweaked the brightness levels, (improved, IMO).

I think the italian blu-rays of Leone's movies might have been scanned at 4K but restored and finished at 2K.

Keep in mind that Leone used Techniscope that is just 2-perf 35mm; I think the negative can't even reach 4K resolution at least in detail...

[42041]

Originally Posted by nagysaudio

Most of these movies have screenshots on Capsaholic website. It's very easy to see the difference between a 4K scan and telecine.

What about a 2K scan and a telecine? What about a 4K scan downsampled for a 2K DI?
If I didn't know any better I might think Rushmore had a 4K remaster, but it was mastered at 2K: http://media.cinemasquid.com/blu-ray...hot-lrg-25.png
Or I might think that the 1985 Fright Night is an older telecine transfer, though it's actually a 4K scan, according to Robert Harris: https://images4.static-bluray.com/re...68_5_1080p.jpg
So, while you can certainly make a case that visual quality is the more important parameter than the resolution of the master, if the resolution is your parameter of interest, looking at it is not the most reliable way to tell.

[42041]

Originally Posted by MisterXDTV

I think the italian blu-rays of Leone's movies might have been scanned at 4K but restored and finished at 2K.

Keep in mind that Leone used Techniscope that is just 2-perf 35mm; I think the negative can't even reach 4K resolution at least in detail...

Techniscope has the same horizontal resolution as any other 35mm movie that doesn't use the soundtrack area on the negative (ie, anything that isn't super35 or silent). It's just vertically cropped. It gets a needlessly poor reputation, IMO, I've seen some great looking prints made from 2-perf negatives.

[kristoffer]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

A bit different than SuperBit . There are different levels of benefit with the ‘Mastered in 4K’ Blus.

Greatest benefit be to those with a Sony Triluminos display chain (Blu-ray player and TV) in order to take advantage of the *Expanded Color*( https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...ab#post7391680 ) ……and a Sony 4K Triluminos tv, for the later will recognize the metadata on the disc and kick in a proprietary upscaling algorithm which is based upon the same used at Sony Pictures to have downscaled the motion picture from 4K to HD in the first place.

Least benefit be to those with none of the above, i.e. you do get the benefit of a 4K digital master used as the source and a home media encoding with a cbr of roughly 34Mbps - 40Mbps….which begs the question to longtime bitrate followers and debators, exactly how useful/important are bitrates in the upper thirties for the vast majority of the footage of typical motion pictures.

Ok I did not know this. Is the PS3 supported?
Will this be the color Rec 2020 then?

Also are these discs Region All?

Also to your last question the high bit rate discs I own also looks the best so very important.

[Brightstar]

How can you guys forgot the STAR WARS TRILOGY IN 4K !!!

[nagysaudio]

Originally Posted by joliefan

How can you guys forgot the STAR WARS TRILOGY IN 4K !!!

Well... The Phantom Menace might have been scanned at 4K for the 3D.