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View Poll Results: Should i make this a 4K DI only thread or continue the way it is ?
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Old 04-27-2014, 05:26 PM   #941
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Dracula (1931) was a 4k scan....correct?

as well as others in the Universal monster collection?
No idea
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Dracula (1931) was a 4k scan....correct?

as well as others in the Universal monster collection?
I could be wrong, but I am going to guess they were not done in 4K only because it was never mentioned in the restoration documentaries or articles I've seen on them. My guess is it would have been mentioned.
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Old 04-27-2014, 08:14 PM   #943
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I could be wrong, but I am going to guess they were not done in 4K only because it was never mentioned in the restoration documentaries or articles I've seen on them. My guess is it would have been mentioned.
Surprisingly, Dracula (1931) was restored in 4K:

A Tale of Two Draculas | Preservation - UCLA
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Old 04-27-2014, 08:22 PM   #944
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All Quiet on the Western Front:
A few words about...™ All Quiet on the Western Front -- in Blu-ray
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Thank you for finding that....I will have to do some more research for the other films in the collection but I imagine they were done the same way.

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Both films were scanned at 4K resolution on a wet gate scanner
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Old 04-27-2014, 09:55 PM   #946
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Thank you for finding that....I will have to do some more research for the other films in the collection but I imagine they were done the same way.

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Old 04-27-2014, 09:57 PM   #947
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We can't be 100% sure without further proof but....i find it unlikely that the master used for the releases worldwide is not the same.
These versions are released within days from each other....for Fox to strike different masters for each territory is higly unlikely.
They just change the soundtracks and subs.
So i think we can almost....almost be certain that these are 4K
I know that Fox used a 4K transfer for the American BD of Niagara.
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Old 04-28-2014, 03:28 PM   #949
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Universal Studios Unveiling Extensive Film Restoration
http://cinelicious.tv/news/icg-magazine-safe-deposits
INTERVIEW: Mike Daruty (Head of the 'JAWS' Blu Ray Restoration)

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Universal Pictures has been busy restoring classics for Blu-ray, to coincide with the studio’s 100th anniversary. Thirteen recent titles have been restored in a 4K pipeline
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As part of its 100th Anniversary this year, Universal Studios will unveil the results of its extensive film restoration campaign. Beginning this year, thirteen Universal titles will benefit from the studio's labors. The list includes:

All Quiet on the Western Front
The Birds
Bride of Frankenstein
Abbott and Costello's Buck Privates
The English and Spanish language Dracula versions filmed in 1931
Frankenstein
Jaws
Out of Africa
Pillow Talk
Schindler's List
The Sting
To Kill a Mockingbird

In an interview with The Hollywood Reporter, Universal's Technical Operations Head Michael Daruty stresses the thoroughness of this project, as "the restorations...took three to six months each and cost $250,000 to $600,000 per title."
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In addition, other titles such as Vertigo (1958), Rear Window (1954), E.T. (1982), Creature from the Black Lagoon (1954), The Mummy (1932), Invisible Man (1933), and several of the Hitchcock library underwent a restoration from original film negatives for Blu-ray release.

Several titles are on our list for future restoration, Touch of Evil (1958), The Lost Weekend(1945), Going My Way (1944), Double Indemnity (1944), My Man Godfrey (1936) and The Heiress (1949) are some of the titles with most receiving Academy nominations or awards and all part of Universal¹s legacy
Pillow Talk (4K scan)
The Sting: https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...=196206&page=3

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Old 04-28-2014, 04:31 PM   #950
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Bigger Than Life (4K scan)
Van Helsing (4K scan)
Australia (Processed entirely in 4K)
Riot in Cell Block 11 (4K scan)
Atonement (4K scan)
Flags of Our Fathers (4K scan)
Letters From Iwo Jima (4K scan)
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Old 04-28-2014, 05:13 PM   #951
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Default 4K movie transition - technology and media

I saw a post as I was searching around the website looking at the 4K transition. It will be actually better than the DVD to Blu Ray transition as studios are using 4K and occasionally 6K camera heads. Red for example offers various models at 4K so when you go grab that release you've been waiting for you are actually getting a scaled-down version of the movie if shot on 4K bodies. Since even the most basic movies have at least a few VFX shots, it will be easier, cheaper and faster to transfer the original 4K source to a 4K Blu-ray (or whatever the may end up calling it.)

As most high budget movies are VFX ridden, the studios are putting in place a 4K pipeline though what stops it and actually makes it more expensive on the consumer end is the down sampling of 4K source to <2K output, i.e.: 1920 x 1080 Blu-ray. There are even 6K camera heads being developed (for this I would look at Wiki or use your search engine). So you are actually getting a downgraded movie if they have shot on 4K (you can tell by looking at the aspect ratio on the back of the box: 2.35:1 is film (yes there have been 2.55:1 epics from the 50's) and if you see 2.40:1 it has most likely been shot digitally on a 4K head as 2.40:1 is usually an indicator for 4K source - look at 4K cinematographic equipment manufacturer websites at the specs on the bodies). So when the 4K consumer prices come down for Ultra HD (4K) screens and players and the online delivery industry figures out what to do with how to deliver a multi-hundred gigabyte movie to your home, you will finally see what digital cinematography is all about. As film is unfortunately near the end of it life (I am actually saddened by this as though the wow factor of 4 to 6K source and seeing it on a 4K screen), film will always hold the highest place in the history of cinema as the BEST source material one can put a movie onto - IMHO).

So in the end, when DVDs finally die and you are now faced with the new 'standard definition' blu-ray or an 'HD' 4K version, which will you choose? How much will a 4K movie cost on optical media. What about 4K 3D? $70.00 for a 3D version of a favorite? And what about the movie theaters that already show 4K movies in-house? Film projection is almost gone for major houses (sad but change happens).

Though I am somewhat caffeinated and a little over the place, my final thought is this: This will be one of the most important transitions in home video (IMHO more so than VHS to DVD), so the industry should be careful about the upcoming transfer concerning pricing, online services (most likely NOT going to be happy until about 2050), and price-performance for the consumer.

I thank you for your time.
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Bigger Than Life (4K scan)
Van Helsing (4K scan)
Australia (Processed entirely in 4K)
Riot in Cell Block 11 (4K scan)
Atonement (4K scan)
Flags of Our Fathers (4K scan)
Letters From Iwo Jima (4K scan)
Van Helsing on disc did not come from a 4k master https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/scree...562&position=1
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Upcoming in due course to dee Blu-ray… https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...39#post9120739
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So you are actually getting a downgraded movie if they have shot on 4K (you can tell by looking at the aspect ratio on the back of the box: 2.35:1 is film (yes there have been 2.55:1 epics from the 50's) and if you see 2.40:1 it has most likely been shot digitally on a 4K head as 2.40:1 is usually an indicator for 4K source
Not necessarily, it's an indicator of an older film, usually pre-2000s.


Theaters have been cropping 'scope films to 2.39 (rounded to 2.4) for years.
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Van Helsing on disc did not come from a 4k master https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/scree...562&position=1
You're right.

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http://digital.copcomm.com/i/47109/39
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Another recent 4K restoration involved the parody spy films, Our Man Flint (1966) and In Like Flint (1967) from Fox. Image Trends scanned the original negatives; MTI Film color corrected the pictures and output them to fim and HDCAM SR for preservation and Blu-ray release.
http://www.imagesystems.se/news/mti-...-equation.aspx
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The Nucoda Film Masters have been involved in a number of recent remastering projects, including classics; In Like Flint, Our Man Flint, and The Flight of the Phoenix for Twentieth Century Fox, among others. All of these iconic titles were remastered at 4K in MTI’s DI theatre.
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Blu-rays confirmed to be from 4K film transfers:

Bigger Than Life Blu-ray Review - Blu-ray.com
Riot in Cell Block 11 Blu-ray - Blu-ray.com
A few words about...™ Pillow Talk -- in Blu-ray
Norma Rae Blu-ray (Japan) - Blu-ray.com
Willow (4K Remastered) - Japan - Hi-Def Ninja Forums

4K Range Informational Guide (picture)
Upcoming Titles remastered in 4K (picture)

Twelve O'Clock High (BD) [Japan] - Hi-Def Ninja Forums ● 4 times the pixels! 4K digital transfer master use!
Love Me Tender (BD) [Japan] - Hi-Def Ninja Forums ● Stand out beauty of 4K digital transfer master adoption
The Three Faces of Eve (4K Remastered) - Japan (Amazon.co.jp 4K)
Niagara (4K Remastered) - Japan - Hi-Def Ninja Forums (Amazon.co.jp 4K)
Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea (1961) (BD) [Japan] (Amazon.co.jp 4K)
Fantastic Voyage (BD) [Japan] - Hi-Def Ninja Forums (Amazon.co.jp 4K)
Blood and Sand (4K Remastered) - Japan - Hi-Def Ninja
Amazon.co.jp: Big: 25th Anniversary Edition [Blu-ray] 4K
Big 25th Anniversary [Japan] - Hi-Def Ninja Forums


Tony Catanese - Digital Restoration:
Worked on 4K Restorations - Funny Girl, Richard III, Three Faces of Eve, Lawrence of Arabia, Taxi Driver, Bridge on the River Kwai, The Guns of Navarone, Twelve O'clock High. Red Shoes

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Major update
Added many titles that eriaur has been kind enough to give us info on
I decided to add these japanese 4K mastered titles.
Since there is a very high probability that they are the same globally i added the US as front
A big thanx to eriaur for his great work

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Fox Premium (4K) Blu-ray site

http://video.foxjapan.com/blu-ray/premium/

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