Sony Z9F TV

[Clark Burk]

Originally Posted by E6AtmosVuduDV

Robert Zohn.

Eye Openning.

PQ on the Master Series Sony TVs. Is even much better than what one sees in the Movie Theaters. Where there is Theater's Director's Intent.

Yes but I have to call out Sony’s intent to make it as difficult as possible to play their media in Home due to their copy guard that makes it impossible to place their media on one’s server. So I have a tough time believing their desire to recreate the director’s intent in the home environment.

[Nothing371]

Originally Posted by DanBa

HDTVTest 2017 shootout:
https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.ph...&id=1502773165

Everything is OLED. Good to know that I have no reason to pay attention to any of these "Shootouts".

[E6AtmosVuduDV]

Everything is OLED.

ZD9 as runner up is not OLED. For Bright room. For video processing.

[DanBa]

LCD crushes OLED in HDTVTest 2016 shootout shock:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnarc.../#7c7b673bc191

[E6AtmosVuduDV]

From Forbes article of hdtvtest shootout...

It’s important to note, however, that many attendees praised the LG E6 for its vibrant colours, strong Dolby Vision HDR performance and the total absence of the sort of light haloing/backlight bleed issues the LCD screens all exhibited to some extent.

Did the attendees noticed OLED's deep Blacks??
Or Total Black in Space scenes?

Hmmm. Z9D was'nt even at that shootout? It's a really quality LCD

[E6AtmosVuduDV]

Will 75 inche Z9F price point to

75" Class Q9F QLED 4K TV.

Which on the Samsung site is $9,999

Hmmm. Best Buy is cheaper at 4500 difference in savings.

Let the Games begin.
Or is that Let the Prices Fall.

With CES 2019 so close. Maybe there's no hurry, no big rush if you already have a nice TV at home. And can be Happy for some months. But if Sony A9F Z9F debut with decent prices....


_________
Now that's a Fall. From $9999 to decent price $2599 75inche QF9 QLED
http://www.tvsdailydeals.com/product...ml?refid=gshop

That may mean Best Buys will have forth-coming great deals ahead.
Guess TV prices has a trend.

[Geoff D]

That sums up those shootouts in a nutshell, really: when they're all so blatantly pro-OLED the other tech is shafted before it's even given a fair shake. 'twas ever thus

FWIW on my ZD9's calibrated mode to track the HDR brightness curve correctly it still resolves about 2000 nits worth of highlight information (roughly the peak of the actual TV's brightness) which is plenty good enough for most discs, and I've got my lower brightness calibration which knocks about a third of brightness off but resolves nearer 4000 nits. Trust me, losing specular highlight detail vs pretty much any other TV in the land isn't an issue for the ZD9, and now that it's got Dolby Vision anyway then the mapping is even more finely tuned when watching that content.

[E6AtmosVuduDV]

Brasilia states

The reason I use the Shootout results but prefer the ZD9 over there opinions, is because I value certain things differently than the Shootout judges.

The LG seems to crush blacks and less than black areas. The pic of Sandra Bulluck in Gravity that I think Vincent showed was - for me - a death seal for any LG OLED purchase, until they get better processing. I also give more importance to brightness that the Shootout reviewers, and less to absolute black. If ZD9 handles shadow detail better than LG, that is more important to me than having an absolute black in all circumstances - I'd rather see the shadows and less than black, rather than folding these into black and losing detail and naunce.

I might prefer that ZD9 had not chosen overall brightness instead of spectral highlights. It would have allowed ZD9 to put LG to shame with far greater ability with spectral highlights and brightness. On the other hand if I saw the results, I might change my mind back again.

For my tastes OLED is too dim, and detail crushing. So LG isn't even in the ball park for my tastes until they fix their processing.

If you do a Side-Side at home watching a 4K HDR10, Dolby Vision Movie Late Evening, night on any Z9D and E6, G6 OLED...

I sincerely think your opinions stated is not accurate in real world. Shadow details, Darks, dark contrast shadings.

And G6 OLED(AF9 OLED) is in no ways Dim watching these movies late evening.

I

[I DO BLU]

Lg fan boy spewing more lg propaganda i see why dont you just stay in your lg threads snd stop spamming others

[Agent Kay]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

That sums up those shootouts in a nutshell, really: when they're all so blatantly pro-OLED the other tech is shafted before it's even given a fair shake. 'twas ever thus

FWIW on my ZD9's calibrated mode to track the HDR brightness curve correctly it still resolves about 2000 nits worth of highlight information (roughly the peak of the actual TV's brightness) which is plenty good enough for most discs, and I've got my lower brightness calibration which knocks about a third of brightness off but resolves nearer 4000 nits. Trust me, losing specular highlight detail vs pretty much any other TV in the land isn't an issue for the ZD9, and now that it's got Dolby Vision anyway then the mapping is even more finely tuned when watching that content.

If it makes you feel better I will take the zd9 off you for £200, if that helps you buy the z9f.
And yes, I have been saying for ages thato it's OLED or bust for them, and they chastise an LCD with below 500 nits but praise an OLED that's lower as they love dem blacks

[E6AtmosVuduDV]

Agent Kay saids

And yes, I have been saying for ages thato it's OLED or bust for them, and they chastise an LCD with below 500 nits but praise an OLED that's lower as they love dem blacks

Vincient, HDTV, reviewed 700-800 nits at 10% window not below 500 nits.

HDR Movies mode in evenings. What did Vicient show for Bright Hightlight nits 10% window in the Zed's ??? 2000 nits? 4000 nits? When he procalibrates a set

I'm excited for Vincients review of A9F and Z9F's.
I think both Sony's will become Award TV's

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Agent Kay

If it makes you feel better I will take the zd9 off you for £200, if that helps you buy the z9f.
And yes, I have been saying for ages thato it's OLED or bust for them, and they chastise an LCD with below 500 nits but praise an OLED that's lower as they love dem blacks

Nah you're alright Mike, although £200 is about all I'm gonna get for my old 55X9005B! Mad how the prices for these things just drop through the floor.

[E6AtmosVuduDV]

Sony is getting into the OLED TV business in a big way.
It's not because OLEDs is a truly handicap'd PQ technology.

[Aston_Martin_DB5]

Sigh. !

This thread used to be about the Sony Z9F series lcd line.
Now as usual it has been turned into an oled v lcd thread.
Thanks for your spam as per other threads you have posted in.

[E6AtmosVuduDV]

Post #2 page 1 this thread by Robert Zohn

SpectraCal auto calibration ready, Netflix pre-calibrated cinema mode on the Z9F and A9F series.

Page 1 this thread. Lots talk Z9D, A1e, 940e

Page 2 930e

Yes. A9F OLED talk all over this thread. By many, many, many peoples.
Always lots great A9F OLED talk, contributions by Robert Zohn on this thread.

AV Expert Robert Zohn has the Honors of post #1 to this thread.

Z9D discussion all through out this thread.
AF9 may actually be quite different from Z9D.

[JimShaw]

Originally Posted by Aston_Martin_DB5

Sigh. !

This thread used to be about the Sony Z9F series lcd line.
Now as usual it has been turned into an oled v lcd thread.
Thanks for your spam as per other threads you have posted in.

I'm with you. Let's get back to Z9F


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[ray0414]

Originally Posted by E6AtmosVuduDV

Will 75 inche Z9F price point to

75" Class Q9F QLED 4K TV.

Which on the Samsung site is $9,999

Hmmm. Best Buy is cheaper at 4500 difference in savings.

Let the Games begin.
Or is that Let the Prices Fall.

With CES 2019 so close. Maybe there's no hurry, no big rush if you already have a nice TV at home. And can be Happy for some months. But if Sony A9F Z9F debut with decent prices....


_________
Now that's a Fall. From $9999 to decent price $2599 75inche QF9 QLED
http://www.tvsdailydeals.com/product...ml?refid=gshop

That may mean Best Buys will have forth-coming great deals ahead.
Guess TV prices has a trend.

2017 Q9F was 9999, 2018 version is 5499. You were looking at the wrong model. Sounds like the Z9F will be competitively priced. The 75" market has not only gotten better picture quality wise, but the prices have been slashed big time over the past year or so.

[E6AtmosVuduDV]

I wonder if this is the current website at $9999. Updated to Aug 2018

https://www.samsung.com/us/televisio...qn75q9famfxza/

Thank you Ray.

Happy is a good good good price on a Z9F.

[LordoftheRings]

The Z9F is as good as when compared to. All by itself there is no discussion, we buy it today and we're happy till next year when the Z9G comes up.

[E6AtmosVuduDV]

Bob.

The Z been in a 2 year cycle.

G maybe in year 2020.
The Japanese Olymbic year.
But that's the year of the 8K

Question is will Z9F have the HDMI 2.1 Chip in. But Sony keeps Mum. Like Z9D had Dolby Vision chip but kept Mum for a long time. If my old memory serves