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E6AtmosVuduDV · 10-05-2018, 04:51 PM

https://www.trustedreviews.com/reviews/sony-zf9

Thats quite Interesting__different presentation from his previous Forbes article:
"Sony XBR-65Z9F (65ZF9) Review: Cloudy With A Chance Of Awesome"

I like all the ZF9 TV Settings discussion.

Reading both articles has it merits.

Today was the first time I read that TrustedReviews.com article.

Im pretty excited. For my new TV is delivered and installed tommorow.

I will test a lot of 4k Dolby Vision disc movies for DV Specular Hightlights can get very Bright. Even with many Rich Deep Dark Shadings in surrounding backgrounds.

Testing DV Disc Player will be the OPPO 203 with its most recient Firmware.

I will need to find a HT AV Store with a DV Disc Player attached to the Z9F. I will bring my most Reference Level Quality DV movie Discs. I have a keen eye for PQ features comparison.

helvetica bold · 10-05-2018, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

We have our TV Shootout wall intact. Sony's Z9F is butt next to the A9F, which is next to LG's E8.

All of the TVs are calibrated for SDR day and night and HDR. For out-of-the-box comparison, we put the TVs in the best uncalibrated mode they have. It's easy to see how they all perform in comparison to each other in this layout.

Thanks Robert!
I will be taking a trip to your store very soon!
I’m only an hour away (Brooklyn) by train. Are you there on Sunday’s?

helvetica bold · 10-05-2018, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E6AtmosVuduDV

https://www.trustedreviews.com/reviews/sony-zf9

Thats quite Interesting__different presentation from his previous Forbes article:
"Sony XBR-65Z9F (65ZF9) Review: Cloudy With A Chance Of Awesome"

I like all the ZF9 TV Settings discussion.

Reading both articles has it merits.

Today was the first time I read that TrustedReviews.com article.

Im pretty excited. For my new TV is delivered and installed tommorow.

I will test a lot of 4k Dolby Vision disc movies for DV Specular Hightlights can get very Bright. Even with many Rich Deep Dark Shadings in surrounding backgrounds.

Testing DV Disc Player will be the OPPO 203 with its most recient Firmware.

I will need to find a HT AV Store with a DV Disc Player attached to the Z9F. I will bring my most Reference Level Quality DV movie Discs. I have a keen eye for PQ features comparison.

Wait, your getting the Z9F delivered tomorrow?

E6AtmosVuduDV · 10-05-2018, 06:31 PM

Quote:

Wait, your getting the Z9F delivered tomorrow?

helvetica bold
I have the Z9D delivered by BB/Magnolia tommorow. My return window is 30 days(the new purchase will push me to BB Elite Plus, thats 45 days return window). Would'nt that be a Z9F Testing Trip!

We are going to San Diego in the near future. San Diego should have an AV HT Store with a DV Disc Player attached. Somewhere in that Metro Area. Maybe North County SD.

I have lots HDR10 discs. But I have a lot of DV Discs as well.

How DV on a Display is very important for our family. Which can Spread Out in a room too. A Final Decision will be made. A new TV will stay. Happiness is a Colorful Thing. Many Things or features can be chosen from its Wonder. Each Family decides.

helvetica.
Would have loved to go with you to Robert's Value Electronics.
We are too far away. NY NY NY.

mzupeman · 10-05-2018, 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E6AtmosVuduDV

helvetica bold
I have the 65 Z9D delivered by BB/Magnolia tommorow. My return window is 30 days.

We are going to San Diego in the near future. San Diego should have an AV HT Store with a DV Disc Player attached. Somewhere in that Metro Area. Maybe North County SD.

I have lots HDR10 discs. But I have a lot of DV Discs as well.

How DV on a Display is very important for our family. Which can Spread Out in a room too. A Final Decision will be made. A new TV will stay. Happiness is a Colorful Thing. Many Things or features can be chosen from its Wonder. Each Family decides.

So why are we going on in this thread about a Z9D?

E6AtmosVuduDV · 10-05-2018, 06:52 PM

All over this Thread peoples talks OLEDs, Z9D, Vizio's.
Peoples Learning what features are important for an upgrade to Master Series. I see peoples here leaning, talking of Sony Master Series OLEDs would be best for them. Lots Sony A9F talk thoughout this thread.

E6AtmosVuduDV · 10-05-2018, 08:17 PM

The second 75 Z9F owner has posted on AVSforum. With screen shots from Pan movie I think.

Interesting blooming above and below. Least from my smartphone view. He has interesting screen photo capture from a Black and White scene.

Look for Marvins interesting post on his 75 Z9F.
Note, I believe the 75 has like 280 dimming zones.
And thus likely do better than the 65 Z9F regards to raising Blacks, Blooming, etc

Marvin is a Gamer. His 75 Z9F charms him.

E6AtmosVuduDV · 10-05-2018, 08:29 PM

E6AtmosVuduDV · 10-05-2018, 11:47 PM

Today.
Oct 5th

Vincent put up his A9F Video review(early morning there was a Vincent Twitter AF9 heads-up I read).

I listened closely for many TECHs in the video for they often shares concepts with the Z9F's. Lots Learning here.

Very important for me is Sony Dolby Vision presentation from DV Disc play. Gosh! Vincent's video so important to this regards.

Await with much anticipation for HDTVtest Vincent's review of the Z9F and Z9F's Dolby Vision presentation.

Robert Zohn · 10-06-2018, 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by helvetica bold

Thanks Robert!
I will be taking a trip to your store very soon!
I’m only an hour away (Brooklyn) by train. Are you there on Sunday’s?

Great, very happy to show you our a/v showroom!

Our normal hours are Monday through Saturday, but I can easily meet you anytime on a Sunday if that's best for you.

E6AtmosVuduDV · 10-06-2018, 06:10 AM

helvetica bold.

Vincent said you can change the gamma to brighten DV or use DV Bright picture mode. Doing that clips details in the brights. See his blu arrows on the screen.

Vincent's DV presentation was using DV Dark picture mode. The comparing Calibrated LG OLED was also DV Dark picture mode. Which showed the AF9 DV picture too dark by comparison. Change gamma or picture mode clipped the brights.

Marvin's 75 inch ZF9 was using the Cinema picture mode for HDR. He did'nt say he used DV Dark. Besides he needs another calibrated TV side by side to his Z9F to know if DV presentaton was darker. And if a different gamma or picture mode would clip brights.

Helvetica

you really need to bring a Z9F home and make your own comparisons. Make settings changes for DV and see if clips of brights occur.

Adrian Wright · 10-06-2018, 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

I can easily meet you anytime on a Sunday if that's best for you.

Now THAT is service for you

tommyboy81 · 10-08-2018, 02:56 AM

looks like I might not get this delivered Thursday thanks to this storm thats about to turn into a hurricane.

E6AtmosVuduDV · 10-08-2018, 04:35 PM

ShootOut Judges did Pause at 5hr 47 min shows the slight raised blacks in cinema bars from 4k movie Pan on Z9F. Compared to C8, A9F it seems acceptable.

5hr 56min 38sec is good viewing of the bars found at youtube paused of same video at same title. Thats 352.06 on above videos timer for the paused scene where judges gave the rating score. Just press the red play button. Touch the screen to see timer bar.

mzupeman · 10-08-2018, 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tommyboy81

looks like I might not get this delivered Thursday thanks to this storm thats about to turn into a hurricane.

Stay safe buddy.

tommyboy81 · 10-09-2018, 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mzupeman

Stay safe buddy.

thanks. Robert saying it may come Wed. If not I can get them to come Fri. Wed afternoon we'll start getting some winds

oildude · 10-10-2018, 01:11 AM

Believe it or not, this is one of the most reported threads on all of Blu-ray.com.

Please stay on topic. That means posting about the Sony Z9F, its features, compatibility with peripheral devices, performance, "how to", how it compares to other similar models, price, value, future, etc. It is especially appreciated if you actually own the television and can share with others.

If you want to continuously post about different models of TVs unrelated to the Z9F or speculate about different TVs, then please go to the appropriate thread or start a new one if it doesn't exist. Everyone appreciates helpful information and enjoys discussion on equipment, but please don't let your enthusiasm get carried away to the point you spam the thread with lots of off-topic information that isn't useful to other members here.

I am not trying to squash anyone's participation and enthusiasm in this thread, just asking that some of you please post appropriately with consideration for other members who are here to discuss this particular television.

Thanks everyone for being here and for helping to make Blu-ray.com a pleasant and fun place to learn from each other when it comes to our favorite gear.

E6AtmosVuduDV · 10-10-2018, 04:37 AM

Gosh. I hope this video pass muster.

a la

Quote:

about the Sony Z9F, its features, compatibility with peripheral devices, performance, "how to", how it compares to other similar models, price, value, future, etc

"how it compares to other similar models"...

I guess thats Z9D, A9F(which have many features of Z9F in common.

mzupeman · 10-10-2018, 12:27 PM

There’s a new firmware update out for the television. It might be a placebo effect after having lived with the television for a while, but I feel like I can actually deal with the ‘high’ setting for local dimming now. The ‘cool down’ time for zones dimming or turning off on high seemed to lag to a noticeable degree before, at least to me. Now, I feel like the timing on that has tightened substantially. I’ve changed all local dimming settings to high, and will live with it a while to see if that issue jumps out at me anymore.

I’ve read another owner elsewhere state they thought the latest firmware made the light bleed issue better but I believe THAT is genuine placebo. They may just be watching content which doesn’t cause the major flash lighting issue to rear an ugly head… but it still does. Also, I’m fairly certain that part of the reason why the light bleeds as much as it does is because of the optical layer over the panel causing the light to scatter.

Again, it’s a small concession considering pretty much everything else about this television is fine. I’ve now basically spent two full weeks putting this thing through its paces and I really don’t have any complaints at this point. I’ve watched movies and played games and even streamed some television and tested Dolby Vision through the VUDU app and all seems well enough to me.

For the record, black looks black on my Dolby Vision streams. Whether they’d appear that way while playing disc content could be another story, but I do not currently have a Dolby Vision capable player.

Anyway, here’s some pictures of it.

E6AtmosVuduDV · 10-10-2018, 02:25 PM

mzupeman

The photo with the Sky Diver is that from a smartphone?

Did you make any camera settings changes? Change exposure, brightness etc. Or was it Just Point and Shoot.

I gather thats from Netllix. What movie or program.

Really Nice TV AV stand you have.

10-05-2018, 04:51 PM	#941
E6AtmosVuduDV Special Member Member since:Mar 2017 Location:California	https://www.trustedreviews.com/reviews/sony-zf9 Thats quite Interesting__different presentation from his previous Forbes article: "Sony XBR-65Z9F (65ZF9) Review: Cloudy With A Chance Of Awesome" I like all the ZF9 TV Settings discussion. Reading both articles has it merits. Today was the first time I read that TrustedReviews.com article. Im pretty excited. For my new TV is delivered and installed tommorow. I will test a lot of 4k Dolby Vision disc movies for DV Specular Hightlights can get very Bright. Even with many Rich Deep Dark Shadings in surrounding backgrounds. Testing DV Disc Player will be the OPPO 203 with its most recient Firmware. I will need to find a HT AV Store with a DV Disc Player attached to the Z9F. I will bring my most Reference Level Quality DV movie Discs. I have a keen eye for PQ features comparison. Last edited by E6AtmosVuduDV; 10-05-2018 at 05:26 PM. Reason: Finishing. Grammer

10-05-2018, 08:17 PM	#947
E6AtmosVuduDV Special Member Member since:Mar 2017 Location:California	The second 75 Z9F owner has posted on AVSforum. With screen shots from Pan movie I think. Interesting blooming above and below. Least from my smartphone view. He has interesting screen photo capture from a Black and White scene. Look for Marvins interesting post on his 75 Z9F. Note, I believe the 75 has like 280 dimming zones. And thus likely do better than the 65 Z9F regards to raising Blacks, Blooming, etc Marvin is a Gamer. His 75 Z9F charms him. Last edited by E6AtmosVuduDV; 10-06-2018 at 12:24 AM. Reason: Finishing. Spelling

10-05-2018, 11:47 PM	#949
E6AtmosVuduDV Special Member Member since:Mar 2017 Location:California	Today. Oct 5th Vincent put up his A9F Video review(early morning there was a Vincent Twitter AF9 heads-up I read). I listened closely for many TECHs in the video for they often shares concepts with the Z9F's. Lots Learning here. Very important for me is Sony Dolby Vision presentation from DV Disc play. Gosh! Vincent's video so important to this regards. Await with much anticipation for HDTVtest Vincent's review of the Z9F and Z9F's Dolby Vision presentation. Last edited by E6AtmosVuduDV; 10-06-2018 at 12:19 AM. Reason: Finishing. Grammer

10-10-2018, 01:11 AM	#957
oildude Moderator Top contributor Member since:Dec 2009 Location:With the Ale and Quail Club on a train to Palm Beach 4K collection:267 Blu-ray collection:4770 DVD collection:212 Blu-ray reviews: 37	Believe it or not, this is one of the most reported threads on all of Blu-ray.com. Please stay on topic. That means posting about the Sony Z9F, its features, compatibility with peripheral devices, performance, "how to", how it compares to other similar models, price, value, future, etc. It is especially appreciated if you actually own the television and can share with others. If you want to continuously post about different models of TVs unrelated to the Z9F or speculate about different TVs, then please go to the appropriate thread or start a new one if it doesn't exist. Everyone appreciates helpful information and enjoys discussion on equipment, but please don't let your enthusiasm get carried away to the point you spam the thread with lots of off-topic information that isn't useful to other members here. I am not trying to squash anyone's participation and enthusiasm in this thread, just asking that some of you please post appropriately with consideration for other members who are here to discuss this particular television. Thanks everyone for being here and for helping to make Blu-ray.com a pleasant and fun place to learn from each other when it comes to our favorite gear. Last edited by oildude; 10-10-2018 at 02:14 AM.

10-10-2018, 02:25 PM	#960
E6AtmosVuduDV Special Member Member since:Mar 2017 Location:California	mzupeman The photo with the Sky Diver is that from a smartphone? Did you make any camera settings changes? Change exposure, brightness etc. Or was it Just Point and Shoot. I gather thats from Netllix. What movie or program. Really Nice TV AV stand you have. Last edited by E6AtmosVuduDV; 10-10-2018 at 02:34 PM. Reason: Finishing

10-05-2018, 06:52 PM	#946
E6AtmosVuduDV Special Member Member since:Mar 2017 Location:California	All over this Thread peoples talks OLEDs, Z9D, Vizio's. Peoples Learning what features are important for an upgrade to Master Series. I see peoples here leaning, talking of Sony Master Series OLEDs would be best for them. Lots Sony A9F talk thoughout this thread.

10-06-2018, 06:10 AM	#951
E6AtmosVuduDV Special Member Member since:Mar 2017 Location:California	helvetica bold. Vincent said you can change the gamma to brighten DV or use DV Bright picture mode. Doing that clips details in the brights. See his blu arrows on the screen. Vincent's DV presentation was using DV Dark picture mode. The comparing Calibrated LG OLED was also DV Dark picture mode. Which showed the AF9 DV picture too dark by comparison. Change gamma or picture mode clipped the brights. Marvin's 75 inch ZF9 was using the Cinema picture mode for HDR. He did'nt say he used DV Dark. Besides he needs another calibrated TV side by side to his Z9F to know if DV presentaton was darker. And if a different gamma or picture mode would clip brights. Helvetica you really need to bring a Z9F home and make your own comparisons. Make settings changes for DV and see if clips of brights occur.

10-08-2018, 02:56 AM	#953
tommyboy81 Blu-ray Count Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Savannah, GA Home Theater Gallery:17 Blu-ray collection:93 Blu-ray reviews:3 Trading Score:2	looks like I might not get this delivered Thursday thanks to this storm thats about to turn into a hurricane.

10-10-2018, 12:27 PM	#959
mzupeman Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Oct 2009 Location:Upstate New York 4K collection:385 Blu-ray collection:1669 DVD collection:173 Digital collection:589 Trading Score:7	There’s a new firmware update out for the television. It might be a placebo effect after having lived with the television for a while, but I feel like I can actually deal with the ‘high’ setting for local dimming now. The ‘cool down’ time for zones dimming or turning off on high seemed to lag to a noticeable degree before, at least to me. Now, I feel like the timing on that has tightened substantially. I’ve changed all local dimming settings to high, and will live with it a while to see if that issue jumps out at me anymore. I’ve read another owner elsewhere state they thought the latest firmware made the light bleed issue better but I believe THAT is genuine placebo. They may just be watching content which doesn’t cause the major flash lighting issue to rear an ugly head… but it still does. Also, I’m fairly certain that part of the reason why the light bleeds as much as it does is because of the optical layer over the panel causing the light to scatter. Again, it’s a small concession considering pretty much everything else about this television is fine. I’ve now basically spent two full weeks putting this thing through its paces and I really don’t have any complaints at this point. I’ve watched movies and played games and even streamed some television and tested Dolby Vision through the VUDU app and all seems well enough to me. For the record, black looks black on my Dolby Vision streams. Whether they’d appear that way while playing disc content could be another story, but I do not currently have a Dolby Vision capable player. Anyway, here’s some pictures of it.

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