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E6AtmosVuduDV · 11-13-2018, 04:55 PM

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Unfortunately, BB will not price match for BF. I've tried it before and it never works. Price Match Guaranteed policy does not apply to Black Friday, especially on TV sets.

Thank you for sharing.

I guess if ones BB TV is still in the return window____Returning it and buy new BF priced TV is an option. No so hard to do especially if one finds "unhappy with" Flaws in the first TV.

mzupeman · 11-13-2018, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Noremac Mij

Wait, you went from a Z9F to 900F?

With the amount of false information you spread on these forums, please don’t face-palm me.

“But the Z9D!”

Yep. I know. Motion handling is important to me as I game an awful lot so I didn’t want the Z9D. It’s that simple. The Z9F was left behind because I tried two different sets and there were quality control issues… some pretty nasty light bleed from the right edge of the screen, and even light leakage from a minor bit of panel separation on the second Z9F I tried. As of now, its fald algorithms do some funky things too.

I’m happy with the 900F. Not sure you’re really qualified to decide if that’s the right answer in general, let alone what I find works for me personally. I’m at least forming opinions by using actual equipment rather than stealing hive mind talking points.

tommyboy81 · 11-15-2018, 01:56 AM

hey, got an update. Doesn't say what kind of "Minor Improvements" to performance

tommyboy81 · 11-15-2018, 03:57 AM

so I decided to watch a Amazon Prime movie from the tv app. Stupid question, but does the tv try to convert 1080 to 4k? Threw on Daddy's Home 2 since it was right there and dang. Looks really good for a 1080 stream movie.

Watching parts of Transformers: Last Knight and holy crap. And its 1080p

E6AtmosVuduDV · 11-16-2018, 04:26 PM

There has'nt been a 65 inch Z9F Best Buy Custormer Review posted in over a month.

Is it hard to get a Z9F at Best Buy? We only have the A9F at ours.

gkolb · 11-16-2018, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by tommyboy81

so I decided to watch a Amazon Prime movie from the tv app. Stupid question, [b]but does the tv try to convert 1080 to 4k?[\b] Threw on Daddy's Home 2 since it was right there and dang. Looks really good for a 1080 stream movie.

Watching parts of Transformers: Last Knight and holy crap. And its 1080p

If the TV didn’t upscale, 1080p would only fill 1/4 of the 4K screen.
The other 3/4 would be blank.

Robert Zohn · 11-19-2018, 06:28 PM

Black Friday/Cyber Monday sale on all Sony 55" and 65" A9F and the 65" and even the hard to find 75" Z9F Master Series TVs.

E6AtmosVuduDV · 11-24-2018, 12:50 AM

I hate the Black Friday Z9F Demo's at Magnolia. Surfing on balloons. Can't tell from it if Z9F is anything special.
Sony 900F has outstanding demos. 75 85 inches. So Wonderful

E6AtmosVuduDV · 11-25-2018, 04:11 PM

Sony's vs...
I removed it. I got the Z9D a few days ago and wanted more time...
I spent two weeks with the 65" Z9F and exchanged it for the 65" Z9D. I only returned the F because the WIFI kept disconnecting. This has never happened on my TCL or my other TVs, and I just didn't want to deal with it, honestly. AFAIK, no other F owner has reported having this issue. I'm glad I made the exchange, though. These are not the same TVs. The 65" Z9F I had showed the blooming that everyone is talking about. It bothered me enough that I entertained the thought of placing cardboard on the TV screen, but what's the use, the bloom is also present in the picture to some degree. But while blooming is the main thing being compared throughout this thread, I found a more troublesome issue with regard to the Z9F: motion. Specifically, with DVD playback. On the Exorcist 3, for example, I noticed foreground (and sometimes, background) objects shaking while the rest of the image remained steady. Then in the scenes inside the cell, the shaft of sunlight coming down from windows looked highly compressed and clipped. And that was in Custom mode with XDR off! I checked out this movie again on the Z9D and the picture is very steady, in all the scenes; nothing jumping around. The light from the window has greater detail and is more natural looking, as well. So it's not only about blooming. Also, notice the difference in the spectral response of the two sets. Something not right with the Z9F Edit: something tells me the Z9F may need to be measured at an angle to observe its response. Wish I had tried that.
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Z9F SPD_10-27-2018.png (75.1 KB) Z9D SPD_11-3-2018.png (81.4 KB)
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E6AtmosVuduDV · 11-25-2018, 04:21 PM

I have studied the 65 inch Z9F and 65 Z9D playing 4K HDR Ender's Game from the Sony x700 disc player. In Living Room setting. Medium and Low lightings.

Z9F PQ movie presentation seems muted compared to Z9D PQ.

Smartly purchase based on features thats important for your Family.

Go by your own comparative audition experience.

E6AtmosVuduDV · 11-30-2018, 02:37 PM

Z9F

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Jelo said:*↑

I got for 30% off on a Black Friday deal

After CES 2019 announcements the above maybe a good guideline when buying 2018's Z9F's.

E6AtmosVuduDV · 11-30-2018, 06:49 PM

Vincient Teoh(HDTVtest) has the 75 inch Z9F now for two weeks plus now. So his in depth review is coming.

With more Z9F Zone at 75 inch... this review will be exciting to see

DJR662 · 12-02-2018, 08:36 PM

No real surprises there...

Sony better step up their game next year.

Robert Zohn · 12-02-2018, 08:47 PM

Just wanted to say we all know Vincent is correct, but if you listen to every word he says he is strictly referring to and continually repeating that the elevated CinemaScope black bars is an issue only in a “Pitch Black” room.

Almost no-one watches in a pitch black room and all rooms reflect light so some light always gets back to the screen and that reduces the perceived effect of

More importantly if you are a real movie buff Vincent is also correctly when he recommended a low luminance bias light behind the screen or even just low ambient room light.

The Z9F is the best choice for many high-end premium TV enthusiasts homes and if you are a dark room movie buff you would probably be getting the OLED and not any LCD TV.

In my opinion, Sony's 65" and 75" Z9F is the best LCD TV available.

E6AtmosVuduDV · 12-03-2018, 01:47 AM

$3500 + Tax($280) + 4 Yr Protection Plan($700) + mounting($100)

So appx $4600 for the Best(?) 65 inch LCD out there...

Fantastic.

Oh____add Bias Lighting cost.

Are AV Enthusiasts breaking down store doors to grab these?

AV Enthusiasts of cource wants the Best.

wxman203 posted

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But your point is taken for most people

Average Joe's wants true bargains? Right. These are the "most peoples". Right.

E6AtmosVuduDV · 12-07-2018, 03:27 PM

SPD chart on the Z9F
(Spectral power of distribution (SPD)

page 1781
Nov 03, 2018*· post #17804

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/166-l...5769?page=1781

DJR662 · 12-09-2018, 08:56 AM

https://www.avforums.com/review/sony...9-review.15588

You will be forgiven for this, Sony. If you present either a new BMD set or a Mini LED @ CES next year.

E6AtmosVuduDV · 12-09-2018, 04:44 PM

Thats an interesting Dec 2018 Z9F review.

Understand X-Wide, eARC, 4 Full Bandwidth HDMI's are strong attraction points, by Sony.

Tho not sure if the average TV consummer would need them or pay many many $Thousands for them(with taxes, 4 year protection warranty, mounting, Z9F TV calibration, delivery cost)..

Master Series commands its own market segment IMO.

E6AtmosVuduDV · 12-09-2018, 05:02 PM

With the Z9D almost sold out or very very hard to get...

For Sony AV Enthusiasts its Z9F or A9F.

Interesting are what the Sony Flagships in January at CES 2019

E6AtmosVuduDV · 12-12-2018, 01:06 AM

Someone today at another forum noticed the Z is back to avalibility for Best Buy delivery or stores pickup. I confirmed it BestBuy.com__ Z9Ds easy availability. Even in Farming towns, California.

Wonder how this will affect Z9F sales at Christmas.

Why do I feel at CES 2019 there will be newly a Z9F #2. So Sony can then retire the Z9D's.

11-15-2018, 03:57 AM	#1124
tommyboy81 Blu-ray Count Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Savannah, GA Home Theater Gallery:17 Blu-ray collection:93 Blu-ray reviews:3 Trading Score:2	so I decided to watch a Amazon Prime movie from the tv app. Stupid question, but does the tv try to convert 1080 to 4k? Threw on Daddy's Home 2 since it was right there and dang. Looks really good for a 1080 stream movie. Watching parts of Transformers: Last Knight and holy crap. And its 1080p Last edited by tommyboy81; 11-15-2018 at 04:14 AM.

11-24-2018, 12:50 AM	#1128
E6AtmosVuduDV Special Member Member since:Mar 2017 Location:California	I hate the Black Friday Z9F Demo's at Magnolia. Surfing on balloons. Can't tell from it if Z9F is anything special. Sony 900F has outstanding demos. 75 85 inches. So Wonderful Last edited by E6AtmosVuduDV; 11-24-2018 at 12:58 AM.

11-25-2018, 04:11 PM	#1129
E6AtmosVuduDV Special Member Member since:Mar 2017 Location:California	Sony's vs... I removed it. I got the Z9D a few days ago and wanted more time... I spent two weeks with the 65" Z9F and exchanged it for the 65" Z9D. I only returned the F because the WIFI kept disconnecting. This has never happened on my TCL or my other TVs, and I just didn't want to deal with it, honestly. AFAIK, no other F owner has reported having this issue. I'm glad I made the exchange, though. These are not the same TVs. The 65" Z9F I had showed the blooming that everyone is talking about. It bothered me enough that I entertained the thought of placing cardboard on the TV screen, but what's the use, the bloom is also present in the picture to some degree. But while blooming is the main thing being compared throughout this thread, I found a more troublesome issue with regard to the Z9F: motion. Specifically, with DVD playback. On the Exorcist 3, for example, I noticed foreground (and sometimes, background) objects shaking while the rest of the image remained steady. Then in the scenes inside the cell, the shaft of sunlight coming down from windows looked highly compressed and clipped. And that was in Custom mode with XDR off! I checked out this movie again on the Z9D and the picture is very steady, in all the scenes; nothing jumping around. The light from the window has greater detail and is more natural looking, as well. So it's not only about blooming. Also, notice the difference in the spectral response of the two sets. Something not right with the Z9F Edit: something tells me the Z9F may need to be measured at an angle to observe its response. Wish I had tried that. Attached: Z9F SPD_10-27-2018.png (75.1 KB) Z9D SPD_11-3-2018.png (81.4 KB) pres2play Last edited by E6AtmosVuduDV; 11-25-2018 at 04:14 PM. Reason: Finishing. Credits add

11-25-2018, 04:21 PM	#1130
E6AtmosVuduDV Special Member Member since:Mar 2017 Location:California	I have studied the 65 inch Z9F and 65 Z9D playing 4K HDR Ender's Game from the Sony x700 disc player. In Living Room setting. Medium and Low lightings. Z9F PQ movie presentation seems muted compared to Z9D PQ. Smartly purchase based on features thats important for your Family. Go by your own comparative audition experience. Last edited by E6AtmosVuduDV; 11-25-2018 at 04:51 PM. Reason: Finishing

11-30-2018, 06:49 PM	#1132
E6AtmosVuduDV Special Member Member since:Mar 2017 Location:California	Vincient Teoh(HDTVtest) has the 75 inch Z9F now for two weeks plus now. So his in depth review is coming. With more Z9F Zone at 75 inch... this review will be exciting to see Last edited by E6AtmosVuduDV; 11-30-2018 at 10:23 PM. Reason: Finishing.

11-15-2018, 01:56 AM	#1123
tommyboy81 Blu-ray Count Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Savannah, GA Home Theater Gallery:17 Blu-ray collection:93 Blu-ray reviews:3 Trading Score:2	hey, got an update. Doesn't say what kind of "Minor Improvements" to performance

11-16-2018, 04:26 PM	#1125
E6AtmosVuduDV Special Member Member since:Mar 2017 Location:California	There has'nt been a 65 inch Z9F Best Buy Custormer Review posted in over a month. Is it hard to get a Z9F at Best Buy? We only have the A9F at ours.

11-19-2018, 06:28 PM	#1127
Robert Zohn Retailer Insider Member since:Nov 2009 Location:Scarsdale, NY Trading Score:2	Black Friday/Cyber Monday sale on all Sony 55" and 65" A9F and the 65" and even the hard to find 75" Z9F Master Series TVs.

12-02-2018, 08:47 PM	#1134
Robert Zohn Retailer Insider Member since:Nov 2009 Location:Scarsdale, NY Trading Score:2	Just wanted to say we all know Vincent is correct, but if you listen to every word he says he is strictly referring to and continually repeating that the elevated CinemaScope black bars is an issue only in a “Pitch Black” room. Almost no-one watches in a pitch black room and all rooms reflect light so some light always gets back to the screen and that reduces the perceived effect of More importantly if you are a real movie buff Vincent is also correctly when he recommended a low luminance bias light behind the screen or even just low ambient room light. The Z9F is the best choice for many high-end premium TV enthusiasts homes and if you are a dark room movie buff you would probably be getting the OLED and not any LCD TV. In my opinion, Sony's 65" and 75" Z9F is the best LCD TV available.

12-07-2018, 03:27 PM	#1136
E6AtmosVuduDV Special Member Member since:Mar 2017 Location:California	SPD chart on the Z9F (Spectral power of distribution (SPD) page 1781 Nov 03, 2018· post #17804 https://www.avsforum.com/forum/166-l...5769?page=1781 Last edited by E6AtmosVuduDV; 12-07-2018 at 03:35 PM. Reason: Finishing*

12-09-2018, 08:56 AM	#1137
DJR662 Blu-ray Knight Member since:Feb 2009 Trading Score:30	https://www.avforums.com/review/sony...9-review.15588 You will be forgiven for this, Sony. If you present either a new BMD set or a Mini LED @ CES next year.

12-09-2018, 04:44 PM	#1138
E6AtmosVuduDV Special Member Member since:Mar 2017 Location:California	Thats an interesting Dec 2018 Z9F review. Understand X-Wide, eARC, 4 Full Bandwidth HDMI's are strong attraction points, by Sony. Tho not sure if the average TV consummer would need them or pay many many $Thousands for them(with taxes, 4 year protection warranty, mounting, Z9F TV calibration, delivery cost).. Master Series commands its own market segment IMO. Last edited by E6AtmosVuduDV; 12-09-2018 at 04:55 PM. Reason: Finishing

12-09-2018, 05:02 PM	#1139
E6AtmosVuduDV Special Member Member since:Mar 2017 Location:California	With the Z9D almost sold out or very very hard to get... For Sony AV Enthusiasts its Z9F or A9F. Interesting are what the Sony Flagships in January at CES 2019 Last edited by E6AtmosVuduDV; 12-09-2018 at 05:07 PM.

12-12-2018, 01:06 AM	#1140
E6AtmosVuduDV Special Member Member since:Mar 2017 Location:California	Someone today at another forum noticed the Z is back to avalibility for Best Buy delivery or stores pickup. I confirmed it BestBuy.com__ Z9Ds easy availability. Even in Farming towns, California. Wonder how this will affect Z9F sales at Christmas. Why do I feel at CES 2019 there will be newly a Z9F #2. So Sony can then retire the Z9D's. Last edited by E6AtmosVuduDV; 12-12-2018 at 01:50 AM.

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