Sony Z9F TV - Page 7 - Blu-ray Forum

Robert Zohn · 08-03-2018, 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geoff D

The ZF9 looks like a monster but it's not like I'm rocking a pitiful portable picnic player as it is, as much as I'd love to order a ZF9 tomorrow (it's what credit cards were made for!) I know better than to jump right in.

In the USA we have Sony Finance with 24 months interest free financing.

tommyboy81 · 08-03-2018, 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

In the USA we have Sony Finance with 24 months interest free financing.

wait, wait, you have that with Sony?

tommyboy81 · 08-03-2018, 02:35 AM

and Robert, do you know if anyone measured the distance apart the legs on the stand are?

Robert Zohn · 08-03-2018, 02:39 AM

Yes we offer Sony's 24 months interest free financing.

Are you asking about the measurement of 65" or 75" Z9F legs?

tommyboy81 · 08-03-2018, 02:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

Yes we offer Sony's 24 months interest free financing.

Are you asking about the measurement of 65" or 75" Z9F legs?

sorry, the 75in. My stand can actually hold the 65in with the legs like that. My stand is 58in wide, and I think most 65in tv's are at least 58in wide

Robert Zohn · 08-03-2018, 03:14 AM

Sony's 75" Z9F is 66" wide. The width between the legs is 56 1/2"

gkolb · 08-03-2018, 05:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

Sony's 75" Z9F is 66" wide. The width between the legs is 56 1/2"

Robert, I believe this would be very useful info in your pdf for the Z series.

DJR662 · 08-03-2018, 05:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geoff D

The ZF9 looks like a monster but it's not like I'm rocking a pitiful portable picnic player as it is, as much as I'd love to order a ZF9 tomorrow (it's what credit cards were made for!) I know better than to jump right in.

Oh how I would love for you to be able to test out the F and compare it along side your Z in the process.

What is your opinion so far on the F judging from what you have read? It seems to me like Sony were aiming for different things instead of just outdoing the D.

Penton-Man · 08-03-2018, 07:01 AM

Robert see if you can take the lead of the reporting mob and write up more technical info as to this – https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...postcount=6203

Geoff D · 08-03-2018, 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

In the USA we have Sony Finance with 24 months interest free financing.

My credit score is so low it's practically in minus figures, it wouldn't help me none.

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Originally Posted by DJR662

Oh how I would love for you to be able to test out the F and compare it along side your Z in the process.

What is your opinion so far on the F judging from what you have read? It seems to me like Sony were aiming for different things instead of just outdoing the D.

TBH I can only keep repeating that it looks like a monster but not having seen it for myself means that my opinion doesn't mean very much. And demos/showrooms are fine but it's when people use it day to day in their homes that the true performance of any display device comes to light.

Robert Zohn · 08-03-2018, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

Sony's 75" Z9F is 66" wide. The width between the legs is 56 1/2"

Quote:

Originally Posted by gkolb

Robert, I believe this would be very useful info in your pdf for the Z series.

It's on our Z9F .pdf spec sheet.

DanBa · 08-03-2018, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

It's on our Z9F .pdf spec sheet.

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VP9.2 => VP9-PQ / VP9-HLG YouTube HDR

Robert Zohn · 08-03-2018, 02:00 PM

I'll ask ^ and get back with the answer.

E6AtmosVuduDV · 08-03-2018, 03:18 PM

How is Z9F with HDR dark shadings and blacks.

How much better is it compared to the prior model Z9D.

Do results depends on dimming zones count or is there also new Z9F technologies affecting dark shadings or blacks?

tommyboy81 · 08-03-2018, 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

Sony's 75" Z9F is 66" wide. The width between the legs is 56 1/2"

nice, but I think I might stick with the 65. the 75 might be too big. will be sitting (head to screen) 6ft to 6.5ft away. Measured it earlier

Robert Zohn · 08-03-2018, 08:53 PM

@E6AtmosVuduDV, it's not possible to honestly answer your questions as we'll need to have the Z9F in our hands to do controlled testing and have the time to evaluate the display.

@tommyboy81, 65" is a good decision and most folks would not even have a 65" screen at a 6.5' viewing distance. With that said the recommended viewing distance for UHD/HDR 75" is 5'.

E6AtmosVuduDV · 08-03-2018, 09:01 PM

Robert. I'm my office/TV Room combo I sit 5.5 feet from my 65 inch G6 OLED. Viewing is great.

Course maybe a Z9F is so bright one might get sun burns sitting at that distance.

So it seems to me 6-8 feet for 77 inch Z9 can bless HT viewing.

E6AtmosVuduDV · 08-03-2018, 09:24 PM

If Z9F's HDR Dark shadings and Blacks are'nt better than Z9D's... then Sony is going the other way. That likely would make many peoples sad.

REPLAY · 08-03-2018, 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

@E6AtmosVuduDV, it's not possible to honestly answer your questions as we'll need to have the Z9F in our hands to do controlled testing and have the time to evaluate the display.

@tommyboy81, 65" is a good decision and most folks would not even have a 65" screen at a 6.5' viewing distance. With that said the recommended viewing distance for UHD/HDR 75" is 5'.

Wish they had a 85", I have a 80" stand with a big room.

DJR662 · 08-03-2018, 10:21 PM

I've read quite a few impressions of the Z9F these past couple of days, and I have to say my enthusiasm has been tempered a bit. And not just because of the lack of 3D (which I was prepared for).

So apparently the Z9F does not use the Backlight Master Drive tech, there are various reports of light bleed/greyness in the black bars and peak brightness does not seem to be higher than the Z9D.

Now I know these "findings" are all based on observations during a presentation, and no one seems to have had acces to the remote and see for themselves what settings were used. And apparently the Z9F not using BMD doesn't necessarily mean a bad thing (there's still the X1 Ultimate chip to handle things). And ofcourse it could be very well this TV will perform differently once reviewers get their hands on it. In short: this could still go either way. But somehow I think this is not going to be what I hoped for and expected it to be.

It seems Sony has a different agenda here and the Z9F is more geared towards trying to capture the image quality of the BVM reference monitor (hence the "Master Series" tag), rather than being a "straight" follow up to the Z9D (as in: improving the BMD tech, more zones, higher peak brightness). Ofcourse getting a BVM like picture in your own living room seems great but personally speaking, I think I would have preferred those 4000 nits along with even better blacks/more precise local dimming and a wider gamut than the Z9D.

We'll just have to wait and reserve final judgment until all the pro reviewers and AV enthusiasts have gotten their hands on the Z9F. Somehow though (for now at least) I can't shake the feeling I will end up skipping this and stick with my Z9Ds and wait for Sony's next flagship model... But on the other hand, perhaps I'll be pleasantly surprised once reviews have come in and prove to be very favourable.

08-03-2018, 02:35 AM	#123
tommyboy81 Blu-ray Count Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Savannah, GA Home Theater Gallery:17 Blu-ray collection:93 Blu-ray reviews:3 Trading Score:2	and Robert, do you know if anyone measured the distance apart the legs on the stand are?

08-03-2018, 02:39 AM	#124
Robert Zohn Retailer Insider Member since:Nov 2009 Location:Scarsdale, NY Trading Score:2	Yes we offer Sony's 24 months interest free financing. Are you asking about the measurement of 65" or 75" Z9F legs?

08-03-2018, 03:14 AM	#126
Robert Zohn Retailer Insider Member since:Nov 2009 Location:Scarsdale, NY Trading Score:2	Sony's 75" Z9F is 66" wide. The width between the legs is 56 1/2"

08-03-2018, 07:01 AM	#129
Penton-Man Retired Hollywood Insider Member since:Apr 2007	Robert see if you can take the lead of the reporting mob and write up more technical info as to this – https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...postcount=6203

08-03-2018, 02:00 PM	#133
Robert Zohn Retailer Insider Member since:Nov 2009 Location:Scarsdale, NY Trading Score:2	I'll ask ^ and get back with the answer.

08-03-2018, 03:18 PM	#134
E6AtmosVuduDV Special Member Member since:Mar 2017 Location:California	How is Z9F with HDR dark shadings and blacks. How much better is it compared to the prior model Z9D. Do results depends on dimming zones count or is there also new Z9F technologies affecting dark shadings or blacks?

08-03-2018, 08:53 PM	#136
Robert Zohn Retailer Insider Member since:Nov 2009 Location:Scarsdale, NY Trading Score:2	@E6AtmosVuduDV, it's not possible to honestly answer your questions as we'll need to have the Z9F in our hands to do controlled testing and have the time to evaluate the display. @tommyboy81, 65" is a good decision and most folks would not even have a 65" screen at a 6.5' viewing distance. With that said the recommended viewing distance for UHD/HDR 75" is 5'.

08-03-2018, 09:01 PM	#137
E6AtmosVuduDV Special Member Member since:Mar 2017 Location:California	Robert. I'm my office/TV Room combo I sit 5.5 feet from my 65 inch G6 OLED. Viewing is great. Course maybe a Z9F is so bright one might get sun burns sitting at that distance. So it seems to me 6-8 feet for 77 inch Z9 can bless HT viewing.

08-03-2018, 09:24 PM	#138
E6AtmosVuduDV Special Member Member since:Mar 2017 Location:California	If Z9F's HDR Dark shadings and Blacks are'nt better than Z9D's... then Sony is going the other way. That likely would make many peoples sad.

08-03-2018, 10:21 PM	#140
DJR662 Blu-ray Knight Member since:Feb 2009 Trading Score:30	I've read quite a few impressions of the Z9F these past couple of days, and I have to say my enthusiasm has been tempered a bit. And not just because of the lack of 3D (which I was prepared for). So apparently the Z9F does not use the Backlight Master Drive tech, there are various reports of light bleed/greyness in the black bars and peak brightness does not seem to be higher than the Z9D. Now I know these "findings" are all based on observations during a presentation, and no one seems to have had acces to the remote and see for themselves what settings were used. And apparently the Z9F not using BMD doesn't necessarily mean a bad thing (there's still the X1 Ultimate chip to handle things). And ofcourse it could be very well this TV will perform differently once reviewers get their hands on it. In short: this could still go either way. But somehow I think this is not going to be what I hoped for and expected it to be. It seems Sony has a different agenda here and the Z9F is more geared towards trying to capture the image quality of the BVM reference monitor (hence the "Master Series" tag), rather than being a "straight" follow up to the Z9D (as in: improving the BMD tech, more zones, higher peak brightness). Ofcourse getting a BVM like picture in your own living room seems great but personally speaking, I think I would have preferred those 4000 nits along with even better blacks/more precise local dimming and a wider gamut than the Z9D. We'll just have to wait and reserve final judgment until all the pro reviewers and AV enthusiasts have gotten their hands on the Z9F. Somehow though (for now at least) I can't shake the feeling I will end up skipping this and stick with my Z9Ds and wait for Sony's next flagship model... But on the other hand, perhaps I'll be pleasantly surprised once reviews have come in and prove to be very favourable.

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