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Old 01-07-2016, 11:18 AM   #5001
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David Mackenzie:
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Sony assured me a real UHD BD player is coming later this year.
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Old 01-07-2016, 11:23 AM   #5002
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http://variety.com/2016/digital/news...ng-1201671562/
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Old 01-07-2016, 11:32 AM   #5003
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Since Blu-Ray atmos tracks are already lossless upping the bitrate wouldn't do jack. A higher bitrate generally benefits video because all video on Blu-Ray is lossy but once something is at a lossless level upping the bitrate becomes pointless
Atmos tracks on Blu-ray are not always lossless. You can encode Atmos tracks based on Dolby Digital+ (lossy) and based on TrueHD (lossless).
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So the first titles will be immaterial?
What a great way to launch 4K if this turns out to be the case!
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atmos tracks on blu-ray are not always lossless. You can encode atmos tracks based on dolby digital+ (lossy) and based on truehd (lossless).
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Old 01-07-2016, 11:46 AM   #5007
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Curious the way Sony appears to be hedging their bets. SPHE has announced UHD BD titles, but Sony Electronics is taking a wait-and-see attitude about a player?

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As for 4K Blu-ray player plans, Sony president/CEO Kazuo Hirai told TWICE that Sony will launch a model if the physical format takes off despite the popularity of streaming services.
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Old 01-07-2016, 12:13 PM   #5008
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Curious the way Sony appears to be hedging their bets. SPHE has announced UHD BD titles, but Sony Electronics is taking a wait-and-see attitude about a player?



http://www.twice.com/news/tv/sony-ma...play-ces/59969
Sony had those titles ready in 4K HDR. So they have nothing to lose "testing" the format. If the format doesn't take off they will pull the plug....
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Old 01-07-2016, 12:15 PM   #5009
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Old 01-07-2016, 12:47 PM   #5010
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Curious the way Sony appears to be hedging their bets. SPHE has announced UHD BD titles, but Sony Electronics is taking a wait-and-see attitude about a player?

http://www.twice.com/news/tv/sony-ma...play-ces/59969
I'm not surprised. The big S was left very disappointed by the take-up of regular Blu-ray and Hirai said a couple of years ago that he didn't think 4K Blu-ray would actually happen, so Sony have been big on pushing their 4K OTT services from the start (though wheeling out the 4K downloads outside of the US would be nice ).

Now that UHD Blu is finally ready to rumble (ish), Sony are happy to release the discs (them owning major pressing plants has nothing to do with it, I'm sure ) but hardware? Hmm. Why go to all that bovver when they can just squirt their movies directly down the Internet to their customers? I respect what David M tweeted but I'll believe it when I see it.
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Sony had those titles ready in 4K HDR. So they have nothing to lose "testing" the format. If the format doesn't take off they will pull the plug....
If indeed master readiness played a role in their title selection process for early UHD BD release, it would make their choices all the more curious. It would be more inscrutable ways of the Sony samurai. There are other titles that must certainly be similarly ready that had higher box office than Chappie ($31M). Why not 'test the waters' with bigger titles instead of making low sales a seeming fait accompli? I thought for sure Zemeckis' The Walk would be a Sony launch title.
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If indeed master readiness played a role in their title selection process for early UHD BD release, it would make their choices all the more curious. It would be more inscrutable ways of the Sony samurai. There are other titles that must certainly be similarly ready that had higher box office than Chappie ($31M). Why not 'test the waters' with bigger titles? I thought for sure Zemeckis' The Walk would be a Sony launch title.
The majority of Sony 4K Masters are NOT HDR. As I said before, HDR is the main selling point of these discs (and I hate the fact). So they chose a handful of HDR titles.... That's my explanation...
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Old 01-07-2016, 01:30 PM   #5013
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Old 01-07-2016, 01:38 PM   #5014
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(P.S. - Based on this conversation about title selection and my thinking it odd that Gordon-Levitt has not received any of the best actor noms that I expected, I checked Walk b.o. I didn't realize the movie bombed. I liked it.)
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The pakaging of WB titles.

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Old 01-07-2016, 02:08 PM   #5016
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I've been reading back a couple pages - just to confirm, we don't have pricing yet on Panasonic's 4KBDP - or a release date - just for the Samsung one.

Damn the Penny is sexy though. At least both have dual HDMI outputs.

Anyone else thinking of making a Day 1 purchase?
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Old 01-07-2016, 02:13 PM   #5017
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I've been reading back a couple pages - just to confirm, we don't have pricing yet on Panasonic's 4KBDP - or a release date - just for the Samsung one.

Damn the Penny is sexy though. At least both have dual HDMI outputs.

Anyone else thinking of making a Day 1 purchase?
If the Panny is within $100 of the Samsung I'll be getting it day 1. If it turns out to be substantially more I'll bite the bullet and buy that stupid curved Samsung. either way, I'm getting it at the earliest possible date.
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Old 01-07-2016, 02:16 PM   #5018
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Update. Sony Pictures 4K HDR movies will be stored on a shared cloud server and once you buy the movie you can download it onto your 2016 Bravia XBR TV as often as you like.
So after purchase, the movie can be streamed from the cloud server rather than downloaded to local storage for playback. Quality will suffer. This wont be bit for bit Kaleidescape store quality which are downloaded to local storage for playback from the end users server. Is that right?

Also, you may have missed this:

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...postcount=4947

There is some interest in the Digital Bridge. The first batch of bare bones players from Samsung, Panasonic and Philips are positioned with low price points to promote adoption. Do you know, or could you ask if there are any future plans for it in future players?
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Old 01-07-2016, 02:27 PM   #5019
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I still don't understand who is interested in digital bridge. What is the use-case scenario for this?

The only way I see anybody caring about digital bridge is if they prefer to rip all of their media into hard drives and play from there for convenience?

But how many people actually do this?
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Old 01-07-2016, 02:41 PM   #5020
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The pakaging of WB titles.
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Phew, no need to worry about whether UHD Blu will take off or not, as the slipcases alone will guarantee that collectors will be all over them.

I can't see what the res is noted at in the specs on the back, shame they didn't get the pics at a higher resolution.
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