HDR Discussion Thread

[RockyIII]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

3 year old throwback Thursday post - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...ps#post9840081
for now, 100 in Geoff and Dan’s neck of the woods, 120 in ours.

So is HFR something that will be available on 4K Oled 6 models? I am all for 120p!

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by RockyIII

So is HFR something that will be available on 4K Oled 6 models? I am all for 120p!

It would be a good competitive counterbalance feature to the predicated (not yet finished) nits race (timestamp 0:47:05)…https://ibc.gallery.video/ibctv/deta...page=0#t=47m5s

[RockyIII]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

It would be a good competitive counterbalance feature to the predicated (not yet finished) nits race (timestamp 0:47:05)…https://ibc.gallery.video/ibctv/deta...page=0#t=47m5s

100% agree

[Penton-Man]

Samsung's Cinema LED Screen: A Next-Generation Theater Experience - YouTube

Feistiness at IBC….

[puddy77]

Originally Posted by puddy77

Sony officially launched the new 6k Venice full frame CineAlta camera: http://www.sony.com/venice

And in relation to HDR, it says it has 15+stops of dynamic range and can capture a color space greater than Rec.2020.

Sony just released their short demo film for the Venice, The Dig by Joseph Kosinski and Claudio Miranda starring Taylor Kitsch and Lily Collins.

https://youtu.be/ailtSg2TkOw

I don't think it's in HDR (I don't have a YouTube HDR device to check), but it is in 4k.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

...RED have started things off and there's Sony's own "full frame" camera to come, as Penton first alerted us mere mortals to.

It was fitting…..http://www.fdtimes.com/2017/09/19/art-of-large-format/
(about 63k with all the options you’ll need to shoot and record, not bad)

Sony Venice at IBC - YouTube

[RockyIII]

Originally Posted by puddy77

Sony just released their short demo film for the Venice, The Dig by Joseph Kosinski and Claudio Miranda starring Taylor Kitsch and Lily Collins.

https://youtu.be/ailtSg2TkOw

I don't think it's in HDR (I don't have a YouTube HDR device to check), but it is in 4k.

Is this in 120fps?

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[Staying Salty]

Originally Posted by hristoslav2

wallchart - Dolby Vision
http://forum.ixbt.com/post.cgi?id=at...235:3742:1.jpg

This ties back to this thread of .005 mastered encodes. https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=296764

My question is why don’t all the manufactures that adopt Dolby Vision, use VS10 also?

Seems like a no-brainer to me.

[mrtickleuk]

Originally Posted by Pieter V

Excellent news. Never thought it would come this quick. I am in the market for an iPad 10.5. However I do know, it has no AMOLED screen, but you will still get the benefits.

Now waiting for YouTube roll out the suppport. But it's Apple vs Google here.

What are you expecting YouTube to change? Do you mean functionality in their app for the new products? I think that depends whether Apple's product can handle VP9 profile 2 or not; it doesn't depend on anything at YouTube's end?

[Penton-Man]

I sensed operator frustration with regards to the production of live HDR, timestamp 0:48:37 -

https://ibc.gallery.video/ibctv/deta...age=0#t=48m37s

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by gkolb

lead to improvements to the final "product"

https://www.itu.int/md/meetingdoc.as...&source=France

[neef68]

Hi everyone. Hopefully someone here can help. I've googled it and I don't see a clear answer anywhere. I can't find one here either, even with the search box. Do all 4k discs have HDR support??? If not, how do I know which ones support it? So far I've only been buying discs with the HDR sticker on it but, I feel like this just may be some kind of marketing ploy because in some places these discs have the sticker or HDR logo and in other it doesn't. Amazon and Best Buy use "4k" filters for their movie listings. No retailers have a HDR search filter. There isn't even one here so, it has me questioning how to discern whether a disc I'm planning to purchase will support the very feature I bought my HDR tv and player for. I've seen Life of Pi (4k) on sale on Amazon for nearly $20 with no HDR sticker/logo on the box art (which is probably generic but, it's all they provide) and at Best Buy with the logo/sticker on it for $30. I've only seen 1 4k listing of Life on Pi on THIS website and so, I'm wondering if there is a 4k HDR version and also a 4k non HDR version. I'm not about to just pony up $10 extra just for a sticker on case that's holding identical discs. So far I've purchased Lego Batman, John Wick 2 and Sicario (all have the HDR logo/sticker). Anyone have the REAL scoop on this. Please don't just provide a bunch of links with no real answer.

[puddy77]

Originally Posted by neef68

Hi everyone. Hopefully someone here can help. I've googled it and I don't see a clear answer anywhere. I can't find one here either, even with the search box. Do all 4k discs have HDR support??? If not, how do I know which ones support it? So far I've only been buying discs with the HDR sticker on it but, I feel like this just may be some kind of marketing ploy because in some places these discs have the sticker or HDR logo and in other it doesn't. Amazon and Best Buy use "4k" filters for their movie listings. No retailers have a HDR search filter. There isn't even one here so, it has me questioning how to discern whether a disc I'm planning to purchase will support the very feature I bought my HDR tv and player for. I've seen Life of Pi (4k) on sale on Amazon for nearly $20 with no HDR sticker/logo on the box art (which is probably generic but, it's all they provide) and at Best Buy with the logo/sticker on it for $30. I've only seen 1 4k listing of Life on Pi on THIS website and so, I'm wondering if there is a 4k HDR version and also a 4k non HDR version. I'm not about to just pony up $10 extra just for a sticker on case that's holding identical discs. So far I've purchased Lego Batman, John Wick 2 and Sicario (all have the HDR logo/sticker). Anyone have the REAL scoop on this. Please don't just provide a bunch of links with no real answer.

Life of Pi has HDR. There is no UHD version without HDR.

Practically all UHD movies have HDR whether or not there is a sticker on the front. It will say HDR in the specs on the back.

There are only a handful of movies without HDR. Bad Santa 2, Song to Song, a couple IMAX documentary collections, and a couple of German imports, Texas Chainsaw Massacre and Savage Pampas.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

https://www.itu.int/md/meetingdoc.as...&source=France

While many were at IBC 2017 in Amsterdam, Netherlands,
Richard Salmon(BBC R&D) was presenting HLG to the color scientists in Lillehammer, Norway at a CIC 25 workshop…..
http://www.imaging.org/site/AsiCommo...ion/Login.aspx

Spreading the HDR word .

[Robert Zohn]

Very nice ^.

I worked with Richard who gave me very good advice on my 2017 NAB presentation on the new TV System, which I included in my session on how broadcasters can integrate HLG HDR over the TV current FHD/SDR ecosystem .

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

Very nice ^.
I worked with Richard....

For those who might otherwise be unfamiliar….
https://www.linkedin.com/in/richard-...711a227/?ppe=1

[Penton-Man]

His ^ EBU experience reminds me.

Tech 3320 Version 4.0 recently (September 2017) recommended that all Grade 1A and Grade 1B HDR monitors should be capable of displaying both ITU-R BT.2100 HLG and ITU-R BT.2100 PQ signals.
https://tech.ebu.ch/docs/tech/tech3320.pdf

‘Grade 1’ monitors may seem an esoteric phrase to some, but it is well known (and quoted) in professional video circles.

[Kris Deering]

Originally Posted by Staying Salty

This ties back to this thread of .005 mastered encodes. https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=296764

My question is why don’t all the manufactures that adopt Dolby Vision, use VS10 also?

Seems like a no-brainer to me.

Obviously everyone has their reasons. I was told that when asked one manufacturer said they didn't want to use it because they didn't want their HDR to look the same as other people's HDR (that may be using VS10).

Personally I want it to look RIGHT, which VS10 should do, so hopefully we see more manufacturers implement it.

[neef68]

Originally Posted by puddy77

Life of Pi has HDR. There is no UHD version without HDR.

Practically all UHD movies have HDR whether or not there is a sticker on the front. It will say HDR in the specs on the back.

There are only a handful of movies without HDR. Bad Santa 2, Song to Song, a couple IMAX documentary collections, and a couple of German imports, Texas Chainsaw Massacre and Savage Pampas.

Thanks. The issue is that I’m buying them online and can’t see the specs on the back or I look on the back and it doesn’t say HDR anywhere. Am I just looking for the 4:4:4 or what? What should I specifically be looking for? I just don’t want to end up having to return a disc after I’ve already opened it because it doesn’t allow a HDR presentation...

[KarmaNL]

Any owners of LG's 2017 oled series here have dynamic contrast set to low instead of off?

Apparently low settings activates ActiveHDR, but it seems more reasonable that all extra's need to be turned off to get the best picture.

I'm getting my oled ISF calibrated on Wednesday so we'll see what the guy says about this. It's all kinda confusing.