6 reasons why U should use your ps3 as a Blu-ray player

[owa]

Originally Posted by prerich

So a better comparison would be a PS3 vs a HTPC right ?

Sure. If you want to compare the PS3 as a blu-ray player versus a HTPC that's fine or if you want to compare a PS3 versus the combination of a standalone blu-ray player + HTPC that's fine as well.

[prerich]

Originally Posted by owa

Point being?

Internet connection and access is not a PS3 advantage (maybe over a standalone) but not a HTPC.

[saprano]

jesus whay are you attacking the ps3 like that? its the best player hands down. obviously you guys dont like a game console being a BD player, but the truth is it runs circle's arounds any SA, deal with it. and it will continue to do so, did i mention we dont have to do a thing when its time for a firmware update, it lets us know when its ready and does the job for us

[prerich]

Originally Posted by owa

Sure. If you want to compare the PS3 as a blu-ray player versus a HTPC that's fine or if you want to compare a PS3 versus the combination of a standalone blu-ray player + HTPC that's fine as well.

I would love a comparison like that . Could you do me a favor (as being a Blu-Guru ) could you lay the PS3 chips on the table and we will do a comparison. This is not to be rude, but an honest comparison between the two. I think they will come out very equal in most catagories.

[owa]

Originally Posted by prerich

Internet connection and access is not a PS3 advantage (maybe over a standalone) but not a HTPC.

We were discussing a PS3 versus a standalone. My point was that a lot of people (didn't say all) don't have an internet connection available in their home theater. So, the PS3 having wireless ends up as a nice advantage.

[prerich]

Originally Posted by saprano

jesus whay are you attacking the ps3 like that? its the best player hands down. obviously you guys dont like a game console being a BD player, but the truth is it runs circle's arounds any SA, deal with it. and it will continue to do so, did i mention we dont have to do a thing when its time for a firmware update, it lets us know when its ready and does the job for us

Can't beat the Denon 2500 in PQ, nor can it bitstream. Watch when you say any standalone, if it can't win every catagory - its not the best at everything. There are some things it just can't do. This is not to down it - it's just a reality check.

[prerich]

Originally Posted by owa

We were discussing a PS3 versus a standalone. My point was that a lot of people (didn't say all) don't have an internet connection available in their home theater. So, the PS3 having wireless ends up as a nice advantage.

Understandable - agreed.

[saprano]

Originally Posted by prerich

Can't beat the Denon 2500 in PQ, nor can it bitstream. Watch when you say any standalone, if it can't win every catagory - its not the best at everything. There are some things it just can't do. This is not to down it - it's just a reality check.

nope, I fully stand by what i said, and bitstreaming does not make a difference,thats a reality check for you

[saprano]

And you guys must be on crack, the PQ on ps3 is top top notch.

[prerich]

Originally Posted by saprano

nope, I fully stand by what i said, and bitstreaming does not make a difference,thats a reality check for you

And....? Bitstreaming - taking the signal and letting the processor do its job - believe it or not - when you build something for a particular price - you skimp somewhere - be it amplification, DAC's, processor chip yada, yada, yada. The PS3 being the jack of all trades that it is - does skimp and doesn't use high quality parts through and through. Decoding chip, could be better, and you didn't even comment on the PQ vs the Denon 2500 - and lets not even mention the 3800 - another league altogether, but comparing the PS3 to things like the Denon is not fair - it should be apples to apples. I know of no high-end person that would not trade there PS3, demote it to the bedroom, or put it in a lesser system if they could have a Denon 2500 or above. That says something right there.

[prerich]

Originally Posted by saprano

And you guys must be on crack, the PQ on ps3 is top top notch.

But is it better??????

[saprano]

what?

[saprano]

The PQ on ps3 is equal to every SA and even better than some, reviews of ps3 from HT mags have proven my point.

[owa]

Originally Posted by prerich

I would love a comparison like that . Could you do me a favor (as being a Blu-Guru ) could you lay the PS3 chips on the table and we will do a comparison. This is not to be rude, but an honest comparison between the two. I think they will come out very equal in most catagories.

The titles are based on post counts, nothing more. With just a simple search, you can find several threads detailing the capabilities of the PS3 and several comparing it to standalones.

My point was, for you to compare them since you're the one that seemed interested in doing so. All I was trying to do was point out two potential sticking points.

One, it doesn't take a lot of searching to find that people have a lot of issues with the software playback on PCs. So, comparing the PS3 versus a HTPC for blu-ray playback, I didn't think would be very flattering for the HTPC side.

Two, with that being the case (guess I should say "if that's the case") and the focus here being on blu-ray playback, it essentially means (to me anyway) that you'd need a standalone blu-ray player + an HTPC to do a more legitimate comparison. That in turn, means comparing something that costs $399 (the PS3) versus whatever the cost for the standalone + whatever the cost for the HTPC. In that case, I'd concede that the HTPC is going to have better "media center" type functionality than the PS3. The focus here is blu-ray playback though and I don't think the comparison would look very flattering for the standalone + HTPC side. You may end up with blu-ray playback that holds up well against the PS3 and outperforms it in the HTPC comparison but at what cost? Is it worth it to pay a lot more for something like that, that is secondary in this discussion?

Sure, if the blu-ray playback is secondary, maybe the HTPC ends up being a better solution b/c then you skip purchasing a standalone and by nature already have a device more suited for being a media server.

But, I thought the whole point of this was the PS3 has an advantage over a standalone b/c it also includes additional functionality. I'm pretty sure you can build a better system by buying the best component for every situation but at what cost and is that relevant to this discussion?

[HDPlasma]

Originally Posted by saprano

The PQ on ps3 is equal to every SA and even better than some, reviews of ps3 from HT mags have proven my point.

Care to post these reputilble reviews and the comparisons made ?


I agree that the PS3 is capable of keeping up to date with Blu-ray technology as it progresses but is not the "best" blu-ray player out there.

It's missing vital analog & digital coax outputs that are important to people with legacy receivers.

The upconverting is average at best and no where superior by a large margin to most SA blu-ray players or good upconvert players.

Also, a SA player capable of HB audio output can downgrade itself to PCM output, whereas the PS3 doesn't have that option. So the consumer can make the choice of what they want to send to the receiver and not be forced to use PCM because the lack of the hardware chipset.

[kingofgrills]

Originally Posted by Beta Man

I will get rid of mine when better stand-alones come out (and hit the sub-$1,000 mark) I need something that has high quality CD and SACD playback.

Do you know of another BD player out or on the horizon that plays back SACDs? I thought for sure the Denons would, but I don't believe they do.

I'll stick with PS3s for the foreseeable future. Besides the points on the original list, which were all very real considerations for me, I really think the Cell processor gives the PS3 a leg up on the competition. It's very versatile and offers a lot of potential for future audio and video playback improvements. Sony's engineers have already released improvements in CD bit mapping, as well as video filtering during DVD playback. Most standalone players are a bit static on future improvement potential given their set hardware configurations. Cell processing definitely offers an advantage for the PS3.

[Synaptic Reality]

Originally Posted by HDPlasma

Care to post these reputilble reviews and the comparisons made ?


I agree that the PS3 is capable of keeping up to date with Blu-ray technology as it progresses but is not the "best" blu-ray player out there.

It's missing vital analog & digital coax outputs that are important to people with legacy receivers.

The upconverting is average at best and no where superior by a large margin to most SA blu-ray players or good upconvert players.

Also, a SA player capable of HB audio output can downgrade itself to PCM output, whereas the PS3 doesn't have that option. So the consumer can make the choice of what they want to send to the receiver and not be forced to use PCM because the lack of the hardware chipset.

Here are a couple links to start:

http://www.consumersearch.com/www/el...FSEbagod3VK6oQ

http://www.hometheatermag.com/discpl...ps3/index.html

Also, I completely agree, the lack of analog is a pretty significant disadvantage.

[Pseudoblu]

Originally Posted by doctorsteve

I'm sorry Laddie, but your post makes little to no sense to me.

"the reason blu-ray won the format war was because millions of consoles were already in peoples home"

Wha? That's like saying "The future happened because the past was already making the future happen" Again - Wha?

"so they just decided ohh why not throw in a redundant blu-ray drive into the ps3."

Wha? There are not two Blu-ray drives. Check the meaning of 'Redundant'. What you said sounds alot like "Why put a CD player in something that plays CDs" (Pssst, the CD player IS what makes the device plays CD's. And magically enough, is the Blu-ray drive that allows the PS3 to play games on BD's AS WELL AS Movies on BD. Funny how that works)

"BDP S300 is an official blu-ray player"

A company that makes Blu-ray players must pay a licensing fee to use the technology and logos - Therefore ANY device that can play Blu-ray based media is an 'Official' Blu-ray player.

"PS3 can kiss my ass"

That's it's decision. I will not be joining the PS3 in that venture.

"it all stands to reason"

Um... what stands to reason? I was not aware there was "reason" being used.

"use a ps3 for playing games, use a blu-ray player to play blu ray dics!"

So if I have a pickup truck, should I use it for carrying people around or cargo? And if I'm only supposed to use it for cargo, am I violating the rules by driving it?

"plus for all u guys that have big fancy home theatre rooms with 60'' tv's dont cheap it up by using a ps3 please."

*Phew!!!* I only have a 27" CRT TV - the PS3 cost more than my TV set! So I guess I really "Expensived" it up by buying my PS3!

God I love silly posts.

Cheers, Doc.

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i love silly posts and even more when ripped apart by sillier posts... and that's a compliment to you... the hatred for the ps3 i just don't get... unless its the always annoying "I hate Big Corporations" reasoning which is annoying as hell to hear.

[bhuyanp]

Originally Posted by doctorsteve

I'm sorry Laddie, but your post makes little to no sense to me.

"the reason blu-ray won the format war was because millions of consoles were already in peoples home"

Wha? That's like saying "The future happened because the past was already making the future happen" Again - Wha?

"so they just decided ohh why not throw in a redundant blu-ray drive into the ps3."

Wha? There are not two Blu-ray drives. Check the meaning of 'Redundant'. What you said sounds alot like "Why put a CD player in something that plays CDs" (Pssst, the CD player IS what makes the device plays CD's. And magically enough, is the Blu-ray drive that allows the PS3 to play games on BD's AS WELL AS Movies on BD. Funny how that works)

"BDP S300 is an official blu-ray player"

A company that makes Blu-ray players must pay a licensing fee to use the technology and logos - Therefore ANY device that can play Blu-ray based media is an 'Official' Blu-ray player.

"PS3 can kiss my ass"

That's it's decision. I will not be joining the PS3 in that venture.

"it all stands to reason"

Um... what stands to reason? I was not aware there was "reason" being used.

"use a ps3 for playing games, use a blu-ray player to play blu ray dics!"

So if I have a pickup truck, should I use it for carrying people around or cargo? And if I'm only supposed to use it for cargo, am I violating the rules by driving it?

"plus for all u guys that have big fancy home theatre rooms with 60'' tv's dont cheap it up by using a ps3 please."

*Phew!!!* I only have a 27" CRT TV - the PS3 cost more than my TV set! So I guess I really "Expensived" it up by buying my PS3!

God I love silly posts.

Cheers, Doc.

Befitting response to the stupid post. Could not have said any better.

[Flomaster]

I use the PS3 to play games and thats that.
I can't use my harmony 880 and will not buy a dongle for it.

I think my BD30 is millions better than the PS3 *game console*

to each is own if you like the PS3 great buy it use it if you don't like it don't buy it.

but to go tooting your horn around how the PS3 is the greatest Blu Ray ever created and all Standalone just plain suck is like comparing ford to Chevy Honda to Acura Toyota to Nissan etc.

to each is own. toot your own flute in your own home and don't air it over the internet.