HDR Discussion Thread

[Penton-Man]

gkolb , we start the new year off with 700,000+ views for this thread, now well on our way to 800,000.
Say somthin wrt Sicario 2: Soldado, scroll down the page here to view the retweeted trailer -
https://twitter.com/Company3

*Soldado was written by http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0792263/?ref_=ttfc_fc_wr1

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

....I enjoyed the clarity and HDR look of Darkest Hour….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFE7w6OEe24#t=1m24s

Per the January 2018 issue of ACM….”The finishing process comprised a number of different delivery items, including a conventional 2K DCP release graded on a Christie CP2220 2K projector at a screen brightness of 14 footlamberts, as well as 4K Dolby Vision HDR, and 4K HDR10 releases that targeted a 1,000-nit brightness level on a Sony BVM-X300 monitor.”

^ Also, of course, a traditional Rec.709 pass.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Question:
What was arguably the most unique film screening of 2017?....for sure, at least on Sunset Blvd. in Hollywood.

Hint -
Be it having made the final step of the journey vis-à-vis elevator or one of these stairways to the screening room….

[jibucha]

Settings :: information

Picture Mode (setting)

it's fundamentally important to try each and determine what is best for you

note :: APS (default) :: as i 'see it' in this picture mode the picture is horrible
note :: for picture quality (Cinema User - Technicolor Expert - ISF) should be selected?

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

the following settings are offered to try/experiment and 'see' what you 'think'
(they are not recommended though)

Cinema (User)

OLED Light (80)
Contrast (80)
Brightness (45)


Expert Controls

Dynamic Contrast (off)
Super Resolution (low)
Color Gamut (Auto)
Edge Enhancer (off)
Color Filter (off)
Gamma (2.4)

Picture Options

Noise Reduction (low)
MPED Noise Reduction (off)
Black Level (low)
Real Cinema (on)
Motion Eye Care (off)
TruMotion (off)

[slimdude]

I have an LG OLED 65", and the HDR must be selected in the picture mode setting for that particular input whichever the blu-ray player is connected to. This could be the problem!

[gkolb]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

gkolb , we start the new year off with 700,000+ views for this thread, now well on our way to 800,000.
Say somthin wrt Sicario 2: Soldado, scroll down the page here to view the retweeted trailer -
https://twitter.com/Company3

*Soldado was written by http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0792263/?ref_=ttfc_fc_wr1

New members and sometimes new problems in the forums everyday it seems. Bodes well for our hobby as they are new blood, it just seems they all have to go through the adjustment period for quality and expectations that some experienced 18 - 24 months ago.

Also HDR lite displays and players don't make the issues any simpler...

Happy to see that 4K disc sales continue to grow at a healthy rate.

[RockyIII]

Geoff does the ZD9 come with Dynamic Contrast feature im HDR settings similar to LG Oled?

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-J320A using Tapatalk

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Looking back on the Year 2017,

Question:
What was arguably the most unique film screening of 2017?....for sure, at least on Sunset Blvd. in Hollywood.

On Blu:



⭐ http://filmmakermagazine.com/104065-.../#.WkrHAvlyi2c

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by gkolb

New members and sometimes new problems in the forums everyday it seems.

Re: new or, for that matter, old membership, my New Year’s resolution is to try not to correct, or even debate, those with fragile egos, for if you do, you risk them forever blaming you for it. Kinda makes you wonder if away from the internet they ever went thru any rigorous training program(s) in the pursuit of their chosen careers….I think not.

Anyway, lots of Monday morning quarterbacking throughout all internet AV forums/message boards and pity is, they know/appreciate as much for example about the next significant next-gen UHD parameter as they did about the pathway to HDR in 2014 - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...ar#post9754213 ,
which was close to nothing.

Hypocrisy abounds, e.g. you have this one post prod consultant on the internet who, back in the day, was the biggest HDR basher I can think of (posting about burned retinas, the lack of value of HDR (i.e. another ‘gimmick’), you know the whole anti-HDR shebang) and nowwwww he’s a prolific promoter of the format because it’s become more fashionable to discuss it positively on the forums.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

On Blu:

[Show spoiler]

Kaz listened - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...z#post12900689 and certainly came thru via the home entertainment dept.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

⭐ http://filmmakermagazine.com/104065-.../#.WkrHAvlyi2c

Good try.
But nope, the film/screening I’m thinking of is not on that particular list.

[Penton-Man]

FWIW, I wouldn't consider this movie as high-brow as those on your list.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

⭐ http://filmmakermagazine.com/104065-.../#.WkrHAvlyi2c

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

FWIW, I wouldn't consider this movie as high-brow as those on your list.

But it’s not like us West Coasters are totally uncultured either, e.g.
https://hammer.ucla.edu/programs-eve...-with-al-gore/ . Note to PaulGo , you and I both know someone who should be required to attend that screening in order to actually learn something.

Anyway, as to the answer I’m looking for, all readers should think of a movie that really leverages the potential/capability of HDR (and succeeds!), the screening of which was invitation only to a small select group in a more intimate setting.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

HDR

heads-up, DanBa et al., reserve your space….
http://wwwmail.grassvalley.com/prod-...opost-Webinars

Prior to Phabrix, Prin, who I’ve referred to before, was a Director at Dolby for 8 years.

As to Klaus, he’s got game too….
http://www.grassvalley.com/home/img/...berK240217.pdf

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by RockyIII

Geoff does the ZD9 come with Dynamic Contrast feature im HDR settings similar to LG Oled?

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-J320A using Tapatalk

It's got a Dynamic Contrast adjuster but whether it's the same as LG's DC mode I don't know.

[RockyIII]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

It's got a Dynamic Contrast adjuster but whether it's the same as LG's DC mode I don't know.

We were having a little debate in another thread about it. I think it's just a gimmick which introduces fake contrast, others claim that DC has its use in HDR viewing.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-J320A using Tapatalk

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by RockyIII

We were having a little debate in another thread about it. I think it's just a gimmick which introduces fake contrast, others claim that DC has its use in HDR viewing.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-J320A using Tapatalk

That's what any DC mode is at heart, BUT people say that it enables dynamic tone mapping on the LG OLEDs so it's not to be dismissed out of hand in that instance. I've tried it out on the ZD9 (which ignores metadata anyway) but any benefits you get are cancelled out by the backlight jumping up and down on every scene change.

[The13thdoctor]

I am going to try new cables. I get the HDR logo popping up and everything seems in order but I don't notice a difference picture wise. Example. Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone is supposed to have a new colour grade on 4k where it's more red and orange tints vs the blue tint on the Blu ray but when I compare between Blu-ray and 4k there is no colour difference. I do see a slight improvement in sharpness but nothing special with the colours. I even did a screen grab on my tv from both sources and flipped back and forth and noticed zero difference colour wise

[AccenT]

We all know that Samsung and Panasonic made this to compete with Dolby Vision. And since it's free to use, will other manufacturers, like Sony, use it with their middle range TVs (that don't support DV)?

Wouldn't Sony's middle range be inferior to Samsung's because it doesn't have an HDR with dynamic metadata?

[slimdude]

Originally Posted by The13thdoctor

I am going to try new cables. I get the HDR logo popping up and everything seems in order but I don't notice a difference picture wise. Example. Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone is supposed to have a new colour grade on 4k where it's more red and orange tints vs the blue tint on the Blu ray but when I compare between Blu-ray and 4k there is no colour difference. I do see a slight improvement in sharpness but nothing special with the colours. I even did a screen grab on my tv from both sources and flipped back and forth and noticed zero difference colour wise

What brand and grade of HDMI cable(s) are you using now? It wouldn't make sense to go out and buy a new HDMI cable if you don't need it. Maybe there is nothing wrong with the cable that you already have.