Blu-rays are 8 years old and DVDs still cling to them like a cancerous tumor. Why?

[Joe Cain]

Originally Posted by rdodolak

What premium? Some studios have since cheapened out on the disc art to save themselves additional money but you can guarantee that they haven't passed any of those savings onto the customer.

I was referring to collectors editions & unique packaging referenced in the post to which I responded.

To each their own. I can't for the life of me understand the passion some people have for slipcovers, either, but at least that can be put down to external appearance & appeal. The only time I see cover art is if I'm putting a disc in to play or taking it out to put it away. If I kept them outside the original cases, I can see how disc art might make it easier to find a particular title, but otherwise it's the single least significant part of the product presentation. If the studio's saving a few shekels in packaging design and manufacture by passing over disc art, I've got no beef--provided there's a best effort at best possible feature presentation on the shiny side of the disc (because that's what I'm spending the money for).

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Joe Cain

And anyone who wants to pay a premium for that is welcome to.

What's on the flip side of the disc is rather more important, ultimately.

No doubt about it. I'm just saying that cover art is part of a whole for some. The same way many keep their discs in order of genre while others couldn't care less

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

No doubt about it. I'm just saying that cover art is part of a whole for some. The same way many keep their discs in order of genre while others couldn't care less

But again it is not the same thing. I like genre because it makes it easy to decide on a movie. It is Easter and I want an Easter themed movie so I go to my Easter movies and pick one to watch in October when I want to watch a Horror movie I will go to Horror and pick a movie from there. There is no need to look through around 2k BDs to decide on an Easter movie to watch. Some one else might not care because he has vbery few (which of the five movies will I watch) or they use something else (go to DB and look by genre on the tablet) or they might choose movies differently (I want a 1920's movie)......

The issue here is that we can't imagine why anyone would spend a long time looking at the disk art and if you don't spend time looking at it then it is hard to make a big deal about it. For me it is not that he asked about better art it was the "really grinds my gears" that made it ridiculous.

Here the government decided to get rid of pennies so if you pay in cash things are rouneded to the nearest 5 cents. If the total ends with .14 cents on something the store will charge you 15 cents. Would it be legitimate to say, as a side note, it cost me a penny more? yes, would it make sense for someone to make a big deal about it, no and the next time your total might end with 16 cents and they will charge you 15 cents.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Anthony P

But again it is not the same thing. I like genre because it makes it easy to decide on a movie. It is Easter and I want an Easter themed movie so I go to my Easter movies and pick one to watch in October when I want to watch a Horror movie I will go to Horror and pick a movie from there. There is no need to look through around 2k BDs to decide on an Easter movie to watch. Some one else might not care because he has vbery few (which of the five movies will I watch) or they use something else (go to DB and look by genre on the tablet) or they might choose movies differently (I want a 1920's movie)......

The issue here is that we can't imagine why anyone would spend a long time looking at the disk art and if you don't spend time looking at it then it is hard to make a big deal about it. For me it is not that he asked about better art it was the "really grinds my gears" that made it ridiculous.

Here the government decided to get rid of pennies so if you pay in cash things are rouneded to the nearest 5 cents. If the total ends with .14 cents on something the store will charge you 15 cents. Would it be legitimate to say, as a side note, it cost me a penny more? yes, would it make sense for someone to make a big deal about it, no and the next time your total might end with 16 cents and they will charge you 15 cents.

I love the examples you always give us Anthony.

[rdodolak]

Originally Posted by Anthony P

Here the government decided to get rid of pennies so if you pay in cash things are rouneded to the nearest 5 cents. If the total ends with .14 cents on something the store will charge you 15 cents. Would it be legitimate to say, as a side note, it cost me a penny more? yes, would it make sense for someone to make a big deal about it, no and the next time your total might end with 16 cents and they will charge you 15 cents.

Wasn't aware that Canada was getting rid of the Canadian penny. I'm sure it's only a matter of time before America does the same.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by rdodolak

Wasn't aware that Canada was getting rid of the Canadian penny. I'm sure it's only a matter of time before America does the same.

It was over a year ago http://www.mint.ca/store/mint/about-...2#.U1QvCc9OUy8

[Scarface32]

I do spend quite a lot of time looking at disc art. I admire it, just like any other form of art.

[pentatonic]

While I understand that disk art has no incidence on the enjoyment of the movie and can be seen as trivial at best, the 1st BD I got with none did bother me, it looked "cheap". Like a car, you see it coming out and going in, but once driving, does it matter, no, does it make you car better or worse, no but if all cars all of a sudden had to be white as it was cheaper to produce it wouldn't be well received. But it wouldn't affect the product at all.

While I understand that a car and a BD are totally different things I don't get why someone who's bothered by it has to be shot down in such a harsh fashion. It's a personal opinion, and in such is as valid as any other.

N.B. I am not shooting down anyone but only stating that it seems everyone is entitled to their own opinion. We all have our pet peeves and it's fine as such, would be boring as heck if we all thought the same wouldn't it?

Happy Easter everyone

[Blu-Dog]

Originally Posted by Scarface32

I do spend quite a lot of time looking at disc art. I admire it, just like any other form of art.

Places we don't need fancy art:

• The underside of a bus
• Bullets
• Toilet paper
• Puppies
• Blu-Ray discs

Just my opinion. I left a few off this list.

[rdodolak]

Originally Posted by Blu-Dog

Places we don't need fancy art:

• The underside of a bus
• Bullets
• Toilet paper
• Puppies
• Blu-Ray discs

Just my opinion. I left a few off this list.

... but you colored your dog Blu.

[pentatonic]

Originally Posted by Blu-Dog

Places I don't need fancy art:

• The underside of a bus
• Bullets
• Toilet paper
• Puppies
• Blu-Ray discs

Just my opinion. I left a few off this list.

There, fixed that for you

[Blu-Dog]

Originally Posted by pentatonic

While I understand that a car and a BD are totally different things I don't get why someone who's bothered by it has to be shot down in such a harsh fashion. It's a personal opinion, and in such is as valid as any other.

I agree that sometimes trivial issues can be addressed too harshly, but you have to put this in perspective. Consider some food items.

Some folks - no doubt, for ethnic or ancestral reasons - consider a fine haggis, or a steaming pot of chitterlings (also known as "chitlins") to be a fine delicacy, and seize wholeheartedly on the idea that these things are delicious. I will not describe either dish, since my language would be harsh and foul. A simple Google search will suffice, if required.

For me, taking suppportive stance towards dining on these items is not trivial, where to others (usually a tiny minority of total lunatics, or those ignorant of what these victuals actually look, smell, and taste like) think I go all out of proportion in my criticism. I admit, it is probably not necessary to go to extremes in criticizing people or their dining selections, and I've dealt with it quite simply: I avoid the topic, if I can swerve in time.

So yes, I think that the overt criticism of someone who goes into brain-lock staring at a printed disc before playing it is probably overkill. Clearly they are doing nothing wrong, even if sunrise finds them still staring at a disc, having never played it, obsessed with the picture. They generally grow up malnourished, at least at breakfast, where they'd stare at the cereal box (with Cap'n Crunch, or the Wheaties picture, or the Rice Krispies guys) until their cereal was a soggy, inedible mess and their Mom made them just throw it out and go to school hungry. I feel sorry for people like that, I really do.

So when someone says their really concerned about disc art, I don't feel derisive; I feel sympathy. I agree, let's be nice.

[Blu-Dog]

Originally Posted by rdodolak

... but you colored your dog Blu.

Good eye. Cruel, but incisive. I will be in fear of you, at least for a time.

[Blu-Dog]

Originally Posted by pentatonic

There, fixed that for you

OK, fine, but I ain't collecting the first three things on that list, even if I do look ridiculous.

[pentatonic]

Originally Posted by Blu-Dog

I agree that sometimes trivial issues can be addressed too harshly, but you have to put this in perspective. Consider some food items.

Some folks - no doubt, for ethnic or ancestral reasons - consider a fine haggis, or a steaming pot of chitterlings (also known as "chitlins") to be a fine delicacy, and seize wholeheartedly on the idea that these things are delicious. I will not describe either dish, since my language would be harsh and foul. A simple Google search will suffice, if required.

For me, taking suppportive stance towards dining on these items is not trivial, where to others (usually a tiny minority of total lunatics, or those ignorant of what these victuals actually look, smell, and taste like) think I go all out of proportion in my criticism. I admit, it is probably not necessary to go to extremes in criticizing people or their dining selections, and I've dealt with it quite simply: I avoid the topic, if I can swerve in time.

So yes, I think that the overt criticism of someone who goes into brain-lock staring at a printed disc before playing it is probably overkill. Clearly they are doing nothing wrong, even if sunrise finds them still staring at a disc, having never played it, obsessed with the picture. They generally grow up malnourished, at least at breakfast, where they'd stare at the cereal box (with Cap'n Crunch, or the Wheaties picture, or the Rice Krispies guys) until their cereal was a soggy, inedible mess and their Mom made them just throw it out and go to school hungry. I feel sorry for people like that, I really do.

So when someone says their really concerned about disc art, I don't feel derisive; I feel sympathy. I agree, let's be nice.

Just that sometimes there seems to be a set of live-by rules and set mind frames that are a minimum here. I agree, disc art "is" trivial for most but I'm sure we all love it when one comes out with a spectacular design, call it an added bonus and proof of care given to the disc and I for one do enjoy the nice ones, even if it's only a matter of seconds. Imagine if they all came out silver with the only mention being the title in tiny letters.

Plus, and this is not my case often but does happen, some do go through a few in a night without necessarily putting them back in the case right away. Disc art makes identifying them much easier.

[pentatonic]

Originally Posted by Blu-Dog

OK, fine, but I ain't collecting the first three things on that list, even if I do look ridiculous.

lol, 100% agree on that B-D. That was funny.

[eiknarf]

Now the original post/question was not about disc art or packaging or even about why DVDs are still released... but... why Blu-ray Discs come packaged WITH a DVD?

Too bad this wasn't a poll thread, so we could ask:

On launch day, would you rather pay $19.99 for a blu-ray/DVD combo, or $15.99 for just the blu-ray?



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[eiknarf]

Originally Posted by eiknarf

Now the original post/question was not about disc art or packaging or even about why DVDs are still released... but... why Blu-ray Discs come packaged WITH a DVD?

Too bad this wasn't a poll thread, so we could ask:

On launch day, would you rather pay $19.99 for a blu-ray/DVD combo, or $15.99 for just the blu-ray?

DONE!

HERE'S THE POLL:

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=240420

[MrsMiniver]

Originally Posted by eiknarf

Now the original post/question was not about disc art or packaging or even about why DVDs are still released... but... why Blu-ray Discs come packaged WITH a DVD?


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DVD and digital codes were added to bluray packaging so they can charge more. As simple as that. A bluray combo pack gives the impression that there is a better value to be had.

[ilik2pac]

I for one hate DVD combo packs. Even Criterion started doing them, and because their Blu-Ray cases held up to 2 discs, and their combo-packs are usually 3+ discs, they have moved to digipack packaging, which I hate as well. The thing that upsets me the most about combo packs is this blue band right here...

I just want to see the beautiful cover art, I don't need this blue band invading the space.