Blu-rays are 8 years old and DVDs still cling to them like a cancerous tumor. Why?

[gregmasciola]

Originally Posted by schan1269

It makes perfect sense.

Plasma has greater (spatial)resolution. And its pixels are smaller(when 1080P) than your kaleidoscope LCDs.

All of my Blu-Rays and most of my DVDs look great on my "kaleidoscope" LCD.

[eiknarf]

Originally Posted by gregmasciola

All of my Blu-Rays and most of my DVDs look great on my "kaleidoscope" LCD.

By LCD do we mean the new LED TVs? Because my two LED's look better than my friends and my brother's and my parents plasma TV's. And that's not just me saying that. That's them all saying that.

[Retroj23]

Originally Posted by eiknarf

By LCD do we mean the new LED TVs? Because my two LED's look better than my friends and my brother's and my parents plasma TV's. And that's not just me saying that. That's them all saying that.

Oh please, this argument still? An old Kuro can run circles around any LED and that's a fact. Do a google search and the majority of the industry experts, along with videophiles, know plasma tech is the best when it comes to contrast, deep black levels, and color gaumet. 4K OLED's are the future. Until then top of the line plasmas are the way to go if one can find them.

[ZoetMB]

Originally Posted by Race Bannon

DVD's and Blu-ray's cost the same amount to make, if you've already done a blu-ray quality transfer.

That's not accurate. BD replication costs are about double that of DVDs, but DVD costs are only about 10% more than CDs.

[ZoetMB]

Originally Posted by eiknarf

By LCD do we mean the new LED TVs? Because my two LED's look better than my friends and my brother's and my parents plasma TV's. And that's not just me saying that. That's them all saying that.

Oh, your friends and your brother and your parents have said the LED picture is better? That resolves the issue. All the professional critics and calibrators with years of training should now change their minds. It's a good thing Sony and Panasonic listened to you and shut down plasma production.

My brother and friends say that my local McDonald's is better than Peter Luger's Steakhouse. All the restaurant critics should now resign.

[bruceames]

Originally Posted by Dynamo of Eternia

Yes and no. Upscaling does help, but even the best upscaled DVDs still don't look as good as a decent transfer on Blu-Ray. But for those who don't want to rebuy everything that they already have, I understand being satisfied by it.

I was looking at it from the point of view of those that remain loyal to DVD. They probably sit at least a 3:1 viewing distance from their display, in which case there's not much difference and upscaled DVD will look fine.

This really depends on the situation, though. Obviously the cost vs. quality value will to some extent be subjective to the individual.

But it does seem crazy to me when a new movie that was just in theaters a few months ago comes out, and the price difference between the Blu-Ray and DVD versions is something like $2, and people who already have a Blu-Ray player opt for the DVD unless it's a big blockbuster film or something.

However, if it was a scenario in which they decide to buy a catalog title that they don't happen to own at all yet, and they opt to buy the DVD from the $5 bin at Walmart instead of the Blu-Ray for $10 to $15, I can kind of see it.

It is a head scratcher when the difference is only a couple a bucks. I suppose ignorance or pride plays a part. Also some don't want the smaller Blu-ray cases I guess, who knows? But when studios bend over backwards like that and even strip the DVD of extras...and still DVD outsells, it's testament to how endearing the format is and of how dominant it has been. I think just about everybody underestimated how much effort it would take to push it aside for the next best thing. People are stubbornly loyal to DVD and see no reason to switch.

[eiknarf]

Originally Posted by ZoetMB

Oh, your friends and your brother and your parents have said the LED picture is better? That resolves the issue. All the professional critics and calibrators with years of training should now change their minds. It's a good thing Sony and Panasonic listened to you and shut down plasma production.

My brother and friends say that my local McDonald's is better than Peter Luger's Steakhouse. All the restaurant critics should now resign.

I know. I'm being sarcastic. Asking Schan1269 why a DVD would look better on a plasma and worse on an LED? The better the monitor, the more flaws it will show. So a DVD should look worse on a Plasma

[schan1269]

Originally Posted by eiknarf

I know. I'm being sarcastic. Asking Schan1269 why a DVD would look better on a plasma and worse on an LED? The better the monitor, the more flaws it will show. So a DVD should look worse on a Plasma

The exact opposite. Plasma is better at spatial resolution. Important for upscaling. LCD has essentially no spatial resolution, at all. Which is why LCD needs HD content.

ALiS panels(Hitacht and Fujitsu) are the best HD displays for upscaled content. Period.

[eiknarf]

Originally Posted by schan1269

The exact opposite. Plasma is better at spatial resolution. Important for upscaling. LCD has essentially no spatial resolution, at all. Which is why LCD needs HD content.

ALiS panels(Hitacht and Fujitsu) are the best HD displays for upscaled content. Period.

Ahhhh spatial resolution. I hear ya (and understand ya)

[eiknarf]

The forums are blazing today.
If "blazing" meant "slow"

[Canada]

DVD's still holding on

Read the first sentence of the readers question very carefully, it will most likely drive this message board absolutely insane and up the wall. I know I was like why doesn't all this guys friends get glasses.

[mredman]

Originally Posted by Canada

DVD's still holding on

Read the first sentence of the readers question very carefully, it will most likely drive this message board absolutely insane and up the wall. I know I was like why doesn't all this guys friends get glasses.

what an idiot there will always be demand for physical media. Because there will always be collectors there has been collectors since the freaking stoneage. Thats evolution not going away or changing. Streaming is for the rental crowd. Not for those that wanna OWN their favorite movies and tv shows. There is no ownership for your purchase for streaming or digital and there will always be people that don't want to have anything from that cake.

the guy that wrote that article is an idiot

http://homemediamagazine.com/researc...-flat-q3-34526

Growing Digital Segment Remains Minor Compared With Packaged Media

Blu-ray Discs and DVDs remain the industry’s proverbial cash cow, at least in the sales end of the business.

then i will just leave this here as well:

[Canada]

what an idiot there will always be demand for physical media

I own 424 so dividing those absolutely equely
212x25 gigs= 5,300 gigs
212x50 gigs= 10,600
15,900 gigs of movies

[Redshaggydoo]

That's a great chart!! Still hard to believe that blu ray only holds that small market share. I can't remember the last time I bought a DVD.

[eiknarf]

Originally Posted by Redshaggydoo

That's a great chart!! Still hard to believe that blu ray only holds that small market share. I can't remember the last time I bought a DVD.

But at least blu-ray disc sales are going up each year

[eiknarf]

Originally Posted by mredman

what an idiot there will always be demand for physical media. Because there will always be collectors there has been collectors since the freaking stoneage. Thats evolution not going away or changing. Streaming is for the rental crowd. Not for those that wanna OWN their favorite movies and tv shows. There is no ownership for your purchase for streaming or digital and there will always be people that don't want to have anything from that cake.

the guy that wrote that article is an idiot

http://homemediamagazine.com/researc...-flat-q3-34526




then i will just leave this here as well:

So, we can see DVD revenue is down 5.6℅ from last year, so, you'd think that blu-ray would compensate and make up the difference and be up that 5℅, but no...its actually going beyond! Its up twenty two percent!

And, as people leave DVD, they now have two choices; branch off into either blu-ray or streaming. So the fact that blu-ray is up 22% is impressive

[ashedmaniac]

Originally Posted by eiknarf

So, we can see DVD revenue is down 5.6℅ from last year, so, you'd think that blu-ray would compensate and make up the difference and be up that 5℅, but no...its actually going beyond! Its up twenty two percent!

Well, they're compared to their respective format there rather than comprehensively regarding each other so expecting Blu-ray sales to be up 5% there isn't exactly reasonable.

It becomes an apples to oranges thing since they're percentages of different pies to begin with within that framework on this graphic.

[eiknarf]

Originally Posted by ashedmaniac

Well, they're compared to their respective format there rather than comprehensively regarding each other so expecting Blu-ray sales to be up 5% there isn't exactly reasonable.

It becomes an apples to oranges thing since they're percentages of different pies to begin with within that framework on this graphic.

True. I hear ya.
So then, as a whole, if DVD is down 5% and blu-ray is up 22%, does that mean physical media is up 17% ?

[ashedmaniac]

Originally Posted by eiknarf

True. I hear ya.
So then, as a whole, if DVD is down 5% and blu-ray is up 22%, does that mean physical media is up 17% ?

No. You're still putting the two of them together within a context where they're separate and compared to their own respective formats from the same week last year. As it says at the top, total disc sales revenue from DVD & Blu-ray disc is up 2.86% in relation to the same week a year ago.

[callahan09]

Originally Posted by ashedmaniac

Well, they're compared to their respective format there rather than comprehensively regarding each other so expecting Blu-ray sales to be up 5% there isn't exactly reasonable.

It becomes an apples to oranges thing since they're percentages of different pies to begin with within that framework on this graphic.

To put it in explicit terms, DVD shrank by $4.93 million, while blu-ray grew by $8.51 million. So the pie grew overall by $3.58 million because blu-ray grew that much more than DVD shrank.