Blu-rays are 8 years old and DVDs still cling to them like a cancerous tumor. Why?

[octagon]

Originally Posted by raygendreau

I think everyone likes quality, but they demand convenience.

Absolutely. People balance quality, price and convenience. They always have.

Does every wine drinker care whether there is a whisper of currant in the cab they just opened?

No, probably not. But they all take quality into account to some degree or another.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by dvdmike

Rest my case.

[octagon]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

I guess it comes down to when the younger generation grow up and have families. I guess that is when the shift (if it happens) will show in terms of device domination. If these people are still obsessed with personal devices (no reason why they won't be) then they will be the tv free generation. Quality doesn't really come into it anymore then as you can get away with SD on a tablet or smartphone. It will take the over 40s to change their habits too but many already have. The switch to tablets and digiyal tech (streaming) seems to be happening fast is what I am saying.

The only one obsessed with personal devices is you.

These kids you're so worried about treat personal devices like they're just one more option. Which they are.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by octagon

The only one obsessed with personal devices is you.

These kids you're so worried about treat personal devices like they're just one more option. Which they are.

They really don't. They treat them like an extra limb. If I may ask, how old are you?

[eiknarf]

I see these devices (tablets, smart phones) as these the youth has, and when they get older, and get their own place, they'll also hang a TV on their wall.
For example, its no different than me growing up, demanding I must have a Sony Walkman that played cassettes. Then I had to have the Sony Discman that played CDs. Then when I moved out, I still had those things, but also got my own sick home stereo.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by eiknarf

I see these devices (tablets, smart phones) as these the youth has, and when they get older, and get their own place, they'll also hang a TV on their wall.
For example, its no different than me growing up, demanding I must have a Sony Walkman that played cassettes. Then I had to have the Sony Discman that played CDs. Then when I moved out, I still had those things, but also got my own sick home stereo.

World of difference. These things have everything on them. Facebook, Twitter, what's app, Vine, Youtube, netflix, Amazon, hulu, bbc, spotify, games, radio, podcasts, apps. Have you observed younger people (teens) using these things. They use it instead of talking, transport, bedroom, living room, outside, friends homes. They go everywhere and it's an attachment that will continue when these people are married. Communal tv watching will be a thing of the past.

[octagon]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

They really don't. They treat them like an extra limb. If I may ask, how old are you?

I was 51 the last time you asked.

I suppose this is where we trade anecdotes about nieces and nephews and their circle of friends and so forth and so on.

Allow me to jump ahead and ask whether any of these kids you know that treat their phones like extra limbs play console games. Y'know, X-box, Playstation...that kind of thing.

Do they see movies in theaters? Do they see more movies in theaters than you do? Do they watch movies and TV shows on actual TVs?

Do they buy Blu-rays? If so, where and how do they watch these Blu-rays?

All the kids I know play portable games (either on phones or portable gaming devices) and play console games on large TVs. I don't know any kids that sit down to watch movies on their phones but I do know some that watch stuff on tablets and laptops. These same kids also go to theaters and watch content on large TVs.

Phones and tablets are just part of the mix to them.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by octagon

I was 51 the last time you asked.

I suppose this is where we trade anecdotes about nieces and nephews and their circle of friends and so forth and so on.

Allow me to jump ahead and ask whether any of these kids you know that treat their phones like extra limbs play console games. Y'know, X-box, Playstation...that kind of thing.

Do they see movies in theaters? Do they see more movies in theaters than you do? Do they watch movies and TV shows on actual TVs?

Do they buy Blu-rays? If so, where and how do they watch these Blu-rays?

All the kids I know play portable games (either on phones or portable gaming devices) and play console games on large TVs. I don't know any kids that sit down to watch movies on their phones but I don't know some that watch stuff on tablets and laptops. These same kids also go to theaters and watch content on large TVs.

Phones and tablets are just part of the mix to them.

Sorry, couldn't remember asking you your age.
Well, my local cinema is emptymost of the week. It gets quite busy on a Friday and Saturday evening but a visit to the cinema is more just a night out and a bit of a flirt than love of film.
I know loads who play mobile games yes, not that many who play console games.
I see kids on their tablets all the time watching frozen, Jersey shore, soaps etc..

[Rhino73]

Originally Posted by octagon

I was 51 the last time you asked.

I suppose this is where we trade anecdotes about nieces and nephews and their circle of friends and so forth and so on.

Allow me to jump ahead and ask whether any of these kids you know that treat their phones like extra limbs play console games. Y'know, X-box, Playstation...that kind of thing.

Do they see movies in theaters? Do they see more movies in theaters than you do? Do they watch movies and TV shows on actual TVs?

Do they buy Blu-rays? If so, where and how do they watch these Blu-rays?

All the kids I know play portable games (either on phones or portable gaming devices) and play console games on large TVs. I don't know any kids that sit down to watch movies on their phones but I don't know some that watch stuff on tablets and laptops. These same kids also go to theaters and watch content on large TVs.

Phones and tablets are just part of the mix to them.

I remember when this was all trees.

I'm finding it difficult to afford the cost of a projector. Does that mean I "hate" people that own them, or that can afford them? No of course not.

Do I dislike people that own TVs that are bigger than my TV? No of course not

Am I in competition with fellow subwoofer owners than own subs that are "better" than mine? No.

Do I care that some people find comfort in using their smartphones to watch shows/communicate with others? No.

Is the TV in some kind of downfall? You'd have to be a blithering paranoid net-monkey to think in this way.

The television is here to stay. The devices that make a TV will change..

[crazyBLUE]

Originally Posted by octagon

I was 51 the last time you asked.

I suppose this is where we trade anecdotes about nieces and nephews and their circle of friends and so forth and so on.

Allow me to jump ahead and ask whether any of these kids you know that treat their phones like extra limbs play console games. Y'know, X-box, Playstation...that kind of thing.

Do they see movies in theaters? Do they see more movies in theaters than you do? Do they watch movies and TV shows on actual TVs?

Do they buy Blu-rays? If so, where and how do they watch these Blu-rays?

All the kids I know play portable games (either on phones or portable gaming devices) and play console games on large TVs. I don't know any kids that sit down to watch movies on their phones but I don't know some that watch stuff on tablets and laptops. These same kids also go to theaters and watch content on large TVs.

Phones and tablets are just part of the mix to them.

Old man like me

[raygendreau]

Seems to be a lot of questions about age groups and viewing habits on mobile. This is marketing research from PWC that you might find interesting. It is about 3 1/2 years old. Just a few words about PWC, previously known as Price Waterhouse Cooper. It is the 5th largest private company according to Forbes, with 34 Billion in annual revenue. Their entertainment research is closely followed by the entertainment industry. Disney is one of their top 20 clients. They are a global firm with over 195,000 employees.

1. The Phase 1 research showed that consumers across age groups are spending time viewing digital content on their cell phone, computer and mobile device, but also still spending significant time viewing media content on traditional platforms.

––Across digital media types surveyed, the most time is spent digitally viewing TV shows and videos, including content from sites like Hulu and YouTube. The 18-34 age group is the most active of the groups surveyed.

––The least amount of time is spent viewing video on mobile devices across all age groups. This finding is consistent with our Global Entertainment and Media Outlook that forecasts viewing mobile TV video is expected to grow at a 17% CAGR through 2014, but mobile TV is still a very small percentage (1%) of the entire TV subscription market.

http://www.pwc.com/us/en/industry/en...y-patterns.pdf

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Rhino73

I remember when this was all trees.

I'm finding it difficult to afford the cost of a projector. Does that mean I "hate" people that own them, or that can afford them? No of course not.

Do I dislike people that own TVs that are bigger than my TV? No of course not

Am I in competition with fellow subwoofer owners than own subs that are "better" than mine? No.

Do I care that some people find comfort in using their smartphones to watch shows/communicate with others? No.

Is the TV in some kind of downfall? You'd have to be a blithering paranoid net-monkey to think in this way.

The television is here to stay. The devices that make a TV will change..

Well, first of all tv sales volume is down from the early 2000's when it reached a high note. In the UK, the number of households with a tv has dropped for the first time in recorded history! There are some Bluray reviewers who think Digital is mostly watched on tablets and smartphones. (Not on this site) if that's what they think, what chance do we have with the general population. They hear digitsl copy and think smartphone, laptop, tablet. If we do switch to Digital for home cinema, I believe tv screenings of movies will be in the minority.

Once again, in my opinion, people need to wake up to this rather than see digital as no threat to the high end and indeed, big screen viewing.

[KRW1]

Can you really imagine a world where it's impossible to buy a screen bigger than 12"? I know the future is hard to predict and all, but I can't see that happening until virtual reality is a thing and then we can virtually visit an Imax cinema whenever we want from our sofa. Or something. Even then, I cant imagine the humble 200" wall screen being threatened.

Just browsing 4k projectors and came across this. I know it's 50k but cor...I couldn't make that fit with my set up but it proves you don't need a massive screen all the time to have a massive screen.

http://store.sony.com/4k-ultra-short...ollections-ifa

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by KRW1

Can you really imagine a world where it's impossible to buy a screen bigger than 12"? I know the future is hard to predict and all, but I can't see that happening until virtual reality is a thing and then we can virtually visit an Imax cinema whenever we want from our sofa. Or something. Even then, I cant imagine the humble 200" wall screen being threatened.

Just browsing 4k projectors and came across this. I know it's 50k but cor...I couldn't make that fit with my set up but it proves you don't need a massive screen all the time to have a massive screen.

http://store.sony.com/4k-ultra-short...ollections-ifa

That's the problem. I do keep imagining it. It's nearly up there with losing my family and world war 3! It would be so devastating.

[gregmasciola]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Well, first of all tv sales volume is down from the early 2000's when it reached a high note. In the UK, the number of households with a tv has dropped for the first time in recorded history! There are some Bluray reviewers who think Digital is mostly watched on tablets and smartphones. (Not on this site) if that's what they think, what chance do we have with the general population. They hear digitsl copy and think smartphone, laptop, tablet. If we do switch to Digital for home cinema, I believe tv screenings of movies will be in the minority.

Once again, in my opinion, people need to wake up to this rather than see digital as no threat to the high end and indeed, big screen viewing.

TV sales are probably down because most people already have them. Even if someone wants to upgrade one of them, they probably don't want to until the one they have stops working.

[schan1269]

I wonder what the Super Bits version of 4K Blu Ray will be called...

[bailey1987]

Originally Posted by schan1269

I wonder what the Super Bits version of 4K Blu Ray will be called...

Mastered in 8K

[AnamorphicWidescreen]

I guess I don't understand why anyone cares if someone chooses to view movies/TV shows on their I-phones or other small devices - this is obviously not going to affect those who also want to view movies/TV shows on large sets.

If anything, TV sets have gotten larger, with a serious improvement in quality over the years. It's actually unbelievable how nice these sets are now - they utilize the maximum amount of screen space, are thin/light, and are HD - in essence, they're truly superb....

As a kid growing up in the '80's watching a CRT P.O.S., these types of HD flatscreen/widescreen sets were the stuff of sci-fi TV shows/movies, not something I thought would ever be for sale @ a retail store - for a reasonable price...

[Rhino73]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Well, first of all tv sales volume is down from the early 2000's when it reached a high note. In the UK, the number of households with a tv has dropped for the first time in recorded history! There are some Bluray reviewers who think Digital is mostly watched on tablets and smartphones. (Not on this site) if that's what they think, what chance do we have with the general population. They hear digitsl copy and think smartphone, laptop, tablet. If we do switch to Digital for home cinema, I believe tv screenings of movies will be in the minority.

Once again, in my opinion, people need to wake up to this rather than see digital as no threat to the high end and indeed, big screen viewing.

Wake up to what exactly?

The fact that VM and SKY are still fighting in a multi-billion £ industry to show TV rights for sport and movies and network/syndicated rights for hit US shows, as well as domesticated media rights. The BBC are knocking out stuff on a monthly level that casters in the US are fighting over.

The entire British network of mainstays, and their offshoots are full of hit/cult and trendy US shows.

Sky1 are re-running Stargate-Atlantis, Watch are re-running Babylon 5 (again), CBS are re-running Star Trek.

Fox and SYFY and Watch are showing Grimm, Continuum, The Walking Dead

None of this would be possible without a television.

Happy days...

Facts are you seem to be a glory hunter. You only exist because of your posts...Nothing you say or offer means anything.

[AnamorphicWidescreen]

Less people are buying TV's these days than in the past?! I call bu%$%#@# on this - don't believe it in the least. As I said in my last post, TV's are of higher quality these days than they've ever been, and are also quite affordable...

I myself was watching movies/TV shows on my computer monitor until December 2012, when I got my first HD Widescreen set. Why did I finally get this? Because the prices had gone down to a reasonable amount, and also because I wanted to get a Blu player to fully take advantage of the HD set....