Prometheus (2012)

[Reubania]

Originally Posted by Duffy12

OMFG! This just made my day!!! HILAR!!!

Originally Posted by bmore007

As far as people doing stupid things. Just look around, there are idiots everywhere in this world, even people you think are supposed to be smart do stupid ass things everyday. Get a grip on reality.

Millburn definitely up for a Darwin award

[s2mikey]

Originally Posted by LobsterPot

Wrong.
Once you have something explained to you, it does in fact go away.
Since it went over your head to begin with and you need everything explained in exposition (christopher nolan)

Wrong. There is NO explaining required or involved. Over my head? Logic flaws and dumb character moves that most 10 year olds could have deduced were bad ideas are suddenly profound and too complicated? Nope. There wasnt anything to "get". This aint some David Lynch movie.

Dumb moves and logic gaps are what they are - you cant explain them away. When trillions of people clearly see the issues that weve pointed out, they are now accepted as tangible data. If the fanboys want to dig incredibly deep or refer to charts to justify their position then go for it. Many folks once thought the world was flat. They were damned sure of it too. Doesnt mean it was flat.

And, what the hell does Chris Nolan have to do with this? Did he take part in making the film?

BTW - I still liked and own the film and Im cautiously optimistic about the sequel.

[returnofthemack]

im really not trying to poke the bear with a stick but whats up with people calling christopher nolan, chris nolan these days? do you know him? does he call you at home? do you have a dorsal fin!?!

[raygendreau]

Originally Posted by s2mikey

Dumb moves and logic gaps are what they are - you cant explain them away. When trillions of people clearly see the issues that weve pointed out, they are now accepted as tangible data.

Resorting to hyperbole does not add to your credibility. I would substitute handful for trillions.

[Himmel]

Once the sequel comes out than you will see all of the complainers say:
"Ohhh!!...Now i understand how cool and hip the first one is now..
The sad but true definition of a !!!HYPOCRITE!!!

[BouCoupDinkyDau]

Originally Posted by s2mikey

Dumb moves and logic gaps are what they are - you cant explain them away. When trillions of people clearly see the issues that weve pointed out, they are now accepted as tangible data. If the fanboys want to dig incredibly deep or refer to charts to justify their position then go for it. Many folks once thought the world was flat. They were damned sure of it too. Doesnt mean it was flat.

Trillons? Come on, dude. There may be only a handful of movies in film history that have even been seen by trillions of people. A hundred million may have seen this movie at this point, and I doubt everyone went insane over a few logic flaws. Just from this board alone, I'd say:

90% of us agree there were some issues.
70% of us enjoyed the movie, regardless of them.
...and a very small minority of ultra-haters and superfanboys keep going at each other accross the web.

[Member-115369]

Originally Posted by Reubania

Millburn definitely up for a Darwin award

They should have left the deleted seen of him collecting the little lizard/slug thing in the film. That showed him as a biologist, collected an alien sample, not being afraid of it etc.

I was a much smaller alien of course, but at least would have made the later scene less jarring than the final cut--where he's running around scared all night, then goes right up to that thing.

Shame Scott didn't do a director's cut, as I think the film would be a bit better with most of the deleted scenes intergrated--especially the two engineer ones.

[stvn1974]

I don't know which is dumber:

[Show spoiler]Giving yourself and abortion and stapling yourself up and then running and jumping around or having your vertabrae pushed back in and the climbing up a wall.

There are just too many leaps in logic even for sci-fi for me to enjoy either films. If there would have been a directors cut that explained why they did such stupid things in Prometheus I might buy it.

[raygendreau]

Originally Posted by BouCoupDinkyDau

Trillons? Come on, dude. There may be only a handful of movies in film history that have even been seen by trillions of people. A hundred million may have seen this movie at this point, and I doubt everyone went insane over a few logic flaws. Just from this board alone, I'd say:

90% of us agree there were some issues.
70% of us enjoyed the movie, regardless of them.
...and a very small minority of ultra-haters and superfanboys keep going at each other accross the web.

The facts: No movie has been seen by trillions of people. The world population is a little over 7 billion as I type this: http://www.census.gov/population/popclockworld.html

Prometheus boxoffice is $402.5 million. Average worldwide ticket price is around $7.71, so around 50 million people have seen Prometheus.

You're as guilty of hyperbole as he was.

[Mandalorian]

Originally Posted by returnofthemack

im really not trying to poke the bear with a stick but whats up with people calling christopher nolan, chris nolan these days? do you know him? does he call you at home? do you have a dorsal fin!?!

Sure, Chris bought me Taco Bell yesterday. Then we chit-chatted about our homie Wall-Wall calling The Avengers appalling. Fun night.

[BouCoupDinkyDau]

Originally Posted by raygendreau

You're as guilty of hyperbole as he was.

I'm counting ghosts.

Seriously though, I saw trillions and somehow that translated into my head as billions. I figured there would be a few movies that a billion or more people had seen at some point...Star Wars probably being the most likely candidate.

Originally Posted by RJ Smoove

Sure, Chris bought me Taco Bell yesterday. Then we chit-chatted about our homie Wall-Wall calling The Avengers appalling. Fun night.

[Havok83]

Picked this up and it has Best Buy's stuipid sticker on the slipcover. MAN do I hate those and how they ruin the thing

[DreamVillain]

Finished watching the movie and it was awesome! Kept questioning how I felt towards David the whole movie, wasn't sure if I was for him or against him and still don't know. Loved it, now to watch the Gods documentary tomorrow

[ZoetMB]

Originally Posted by dmaul1114

I was a much smaller alien of course, but at least would have made the later scene less jarring than the final cut--where he's running around scared all night, then goes right up to that thing.

Don't put yourself down....I think of you as a regular sized alien.

Originally Posted by stvn1974

I don't know which is dumber:

[Show spoiler]Giving yourself and abortion and stapling yourself up and then running and jumping around or having your vertabrae pushed back in and the climbing up a wall.

There are just too many leaps in logic even for sci-fi for me to enjoy either films. If there would have been a directors cut that explained why they did such stupid things in Prometheus I might buy it.

I don't think there's a modern action film out there that doesn't have absurd leaps of logic. Beginning with people who get shot but still continue the chase. (I would give up if I got a hangnail - it would ruin my whole day.) In movie world, people get thrown onto the windshields of moving cars and the driver doesn't blink an eye. I instinctively hit the brakes if a car in the opposite lane splashes rainwater onto my car.

I actually can believe aspects of the

[Show spoiler]abortion

scene. Look at the advances in medicine in the last 100 years. I don't think it's that hard to believe that such medicine would be possible several hundred years from now. What wasn't believable was that the computer

[Show spoiler]couldn't aid her at all because the device was there for use by the old man, that she couldn't perform the procedure laparoscopically and/or that the staples were so big. Seems to me by that year, the machine will seal wounds and flesh with a laser, glue stem cells or something similar.

There's a pretty good video on YouTube that attempts to explain plot points that some people are challenging as illogical. Check it out.

The primary thing that bothers me about the film is

[Show spoiler]how dumb and how small the crew is. Considering the cost of the mission, I find it hard to believe that they wouldn't have hired a less flaky crew. There's a bigger crew on my flight to India than there was on this $ trillion(?) research mission.

[m_burlock]

I purchased the 3D edition of this Blu-Ray and just watched the 2D version contained therein. After the credits finish scrolling up the screen my TV's screen stay's blank. It doesn't go back to the main menu. Can anyone explain this??

[Dead By Shaun]

Originally Posted by ZoetMB

What wasn't believable was that the computer

[Show spoiler]couldn't aid her at all because the device was there for use by the old man, that she couldn't perform the procedure laparoscopically and/or that the staples were so big. Seems to me by that year, the machine will seal wounds and flesh with a laser, glue stem cells or something similar.

Yeah, but then that scene wouldn't have been as shocking and gruesome. Where's the fun in that?

[BouCoupDinkyDau]

Originally Posted by Dead By Shaun

Yeah, but then that scene wouldn't have been as shocking and gruesome. Where's the fun in that?

Yeah, I think he wanted it beamed out, then of Shaw to stand up, straighten herself out, and go have a cup of tea.

[gpn]

Originally Posted by ZoetMB

The primary thing that bothers me about the film is

[Show spoiler]how dumb and how small the crew is. Considering the cost of the mission, I find it hard to believe that they wouldn't have hired a less flaky crew. There's a bigger crew on my flight to India than there was on this $ trillion(?) research mission.

I don't find either of those issues trouble-some.

During the initial briefing, Vickers mentions that she hired some of the mission crew and someone else (presumably Weyland) hired the others. Since the primary purpose of the mission was to extend Weyland's life we can presume that his hires were the mercenaries/soldiers that are there to protect him, and the Scottish woman who seems to be his doctor; and then there's David who is Weyland's right-hand "man". Since he wanted a "true believer" on the mission, we also know he brought on Shaw and Holloway. Who does leave for Vickers to hire? Possibly the ship's flight crew, but I'd say definitely the scientists Fifield and Milburn. Now, we know that Vickers doesn't want the mission to succeed and wants to return as soon as possible, and hiring incompetent/mercenary scientists seems like a good way to get the mission to fail and end quickly.

As far as how small the crew is, we know this is a discrete mission based on the text "destination undisclosed" at the beginning. Easier to keep secrets with a small crew.

[blu-ray_girl_fan]

Originally Posted by BouCoupDinkyDau

Yeah, I think he wanted it beamed out, then of Shaw to stand up, straighten herself out, and go have a cup of tea.

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Deadlock_(episode)

[Hawkguy]

Originally Posted by m_burlock

I purchased the 3D edition of this Blu-Ray and just watched the 2D version contained therein. After the credits finish scrolling up the screen my TV's screen stay's blank. It doesn't go back to the main menu. Can anyone explain this??

I'd like to know the same thing.