Prometheus (2012)

[besi]

I watched the bluray last night with Ridley's commentary

[Show spoiler]it was interesting but somehow I was disappointed,still no explanation on couple of things,because they don't know it either.I'm pretty sure the sequel is coming,
I just hope this time he will go with different writers,they put this movie together really quick and it shows. planning to watch it again tonight with the writers commentary,I hope they have some better explanation on things.best thing to find out was how they did the moving black goo in the urn.I want to try it at home.if you liked the movie its definietly worth to pick it up.if you are waiting for the directors cut,good luck with that !

[Brahby]

Lets not forget that Transformers DOTM came out a good few months on Blu Ray as a bare bones before they finally re released it as a 3d version with extras. That might have been the most upsetting of all the double dips ever. They even included a coupon for the "ultimate" version because even the studio realized it was just a crap filler until the real version came out.

[K i r a]

Originally Posted by besi

I watched the bluray last night with Ridley's commentary

[Show spoiler]it was interesting but somehow I was disappointed,still no explanation on couple of things,because they don't know it either.I'm pretty sure the sequel is coming,
I just hope this time he will go with different writers,they put this movie together really quick and it shows. planning to watch it again tonight with the writers commentary,I hope they have some better explanation on things.best thing to find out was how they did the moving black goo in the urn.I want to try it at home.if you liked the movie its definitely worth to pick it up.if you are waiting for the directors cut,good luck with that !

I thought when they announced the sequel for 2014, they said Ridley is back, but with a new writer. That alone got me excited for it, because the writer(s) on this were absolutely terrible. Either that, or something where they cut out a lot of footage, if shot, was the real downside to this movie for me. Although some of the stuff that made it in

[Show spoiler]Scientists playing with a discovery to get killed by it, the captain and his crew sacrificing themselves at end when they could have cared less about their own in the beginning with NO arc showing they would have done it otherwise, and Charlize's death; run diagonally, you pretty dumb woman!

were completely stupid, too.

[Dark.Devil.21]

I don't understand why people think that all the questions were to be answered in the first movie. Obviously there is a sequel coming. Even if there wasn't why can't people just enjoy the movie for what it is and stop complaining about some of the questions were not answered. It wasn't a movie about Quantum Physics. So, stop being a critic and deal with it.

[K i r a]

Originally Posted by Brahby

Lets not forget that Transformers DOTM came out a good few months on Blu Ray as a bare bones before they finally re released it as a 3d version with extras. That might have been the most upsetting of all the double dips ever. They even included a coupon for the "ultimate" version because even the studio realized it was just a crap filler until the real version came out.

At least that release said, "We're going to be *******s, and we're telling you about it. Here's a coupon."

Other releases came out months later unexpected, and no discount until a sale.

[Brahby]

Originally Posted by K i r a

[Show spoiler]run diagonally, you pretty dumb woman!

were completely stupid, too.

I legitimately almost shouted this out in the theater.

[K i r a]

Originally Posted by Dark.Devil.21

I don't understand why people think that all the questions were to be answered in the first movie. Obviously there is a sequel coming. Even if there wasn't why can't people just enjoy the movie for what it is and stop complaining about some of the questions were not answered. It wasn't a movie about Quantum Physics. So, stop being a critic and deal with it.

Problem is, most of the questions were answered in post interviews with Ridley and the writers. Why should we as an audience have to get answers by taking the time to read after the movie, as opposed to getting an extended version that we will have them in one sitting, the way it should be?

That's my problem with it.

EDIT: Link IGN had a more complete interview with the writer and Ridley, but can't find link now.

[BluProofie]

Originally Posted by Dark.Devil.21

I don't understand why people think that all the questions were to be answered in the first movie. Obviously there is a sequel coming. Even if there wasn't why can't people just enjoy the movie for what it is and stop complaining about some of the questions were not answered. It wasn't a movie about Quantum Physics. So, stop being a critic and deal with it.

And a lot of the answers to the questions can be figured out if you have an imagination. Unfortunately, a lot of people who saw this film do not.

[Dark.Devil.21]

Originally Posted by Brahby

Lets not forget that Transformers DOTM came out a good few months on Blu Ray as a bare bones before they finally re released it as a 3d version with extras. That might have been the most upsetting of all the double dips ever. They even included a coupon for the "ultimate" version because even the studio realized it was just a crap filler until the real version came out.

I disagree. At least Paramount decided to include a 10 dollar coupon for the newer edition making it much more affordable. Unlike Fox, who just keeps milking money out of consumers with stupid Avatar movie.

[Dark.Devil.21]

Originally Posted by BluProofie

And a lot of the answers to the questions can be figured out if you have an imagination. Unfortunately, a lot of people who saw this film do not.

Agreed 100000000000%

The movie was perfect as it is. No extended cut needed. If they decide to make one, I'll gladly buy it. But it is not required.

[Cremildo]

Originally Posted by BluProofie

And a lot of the answers to the questions can be figured out if you have an imagination. Unfortunately, a lot of people who saw this film do not.

Thank you for this.

[BluProofie]

Originally Posted by Dark.Devil.21

I disagree. At least Paramount decided to include a 10 dollar coupon for the newer edition making it much more affordable. Unlike Fox, who just keeps milking money out of consumers with stupid Avatar movie.

I am so glad that I hate that movie. Means I don't have to keep buying releases of it.

[Dark.Devil.21]

Originally Posted by BluProofie

I am so glad that I hate that movie. Means I don't have to keep buying releases of it.

I bought the original bare bones release and I am okay with it. Don't care about special features or 3D.

[K i r a]

Originally Posted by BluProofie

And a lot of the answers to the questions can be figured out if you have an imagination. Unfortunately, a lot of people who saw this film do not.

So I have to imagine why the Engineers, who created us, want to kill us when that one is awakened? I read

[Show spoiler]they got upset and thought we were out of control, so sent one of their own 2,000 years ago to calm us down, but we crucified him (Jesus). I can see that not being in the movie's theatrical cut for religious purposes, of not offending them, but why cut it, or not give another reason?

My imagination would tell me that he was upset they didn't bring him Pizza Rolls. I know I'd be.

[Dark.Devil.21]

Originally Posted by K i r a

So I have to imagine why the Engineers, who created us, want to kill us when that one is awakened? I read

[Show spoiler]they got upset and thought we were out of control, so sent one of their own 2,000 years ago to calm us down, but we crucified him (Jesus). I can see that not being in the movie's theatrical cut for religious purposes, of not offending them, but why cut it, or not give another reason?

My imagination would tell me that he was upset they didn't bring him Pizza Rolls. I know I'd be.

That's what makes this movie unique because if you get all the answers now, then there is no point of a sequel.

Also, at the end of the movie you see Shaw leaving with David to learn the answer to your above question. So, you can expect another movie to learn that. Personally I love the kind of movies that don't reveal much because that leaves the doors open for another movie.

[videohead]

Originally Posted by K i r a

So I have to imagine why the Engineers, who created us, want to kill us when that one is awakened? I read

[Show spoiler]they got upset and thought we were out of control, so sent one of their own 2,000 years ago to calm us down, but we crucified him (Jesus). I can see that not being in the movie's theatrical cut for religious purposes, of not offending them, but why cut it, or not give another reason?

My imagination would tell me that he was upset they didn't bring him Pizza Rolls. I know I'd be.

I agree, that we could have had just a wee bit more info on the engineers' objective, but I like the fact that I have to come up with some of my conclusions and answers. Been a while since we had a good movie that actually makes YOU think, and when you leave a theater after seeing a movie like that, it is more fulfilling than something just thrown at you and smothering you will definitive answers. I enjoy having to use my noodles once in a while

[Cliff]

Originally Posted by Brahby

Lets not forget that Transformers DOTM came out a good few months on Blu Ray as a bare bones before they finally re released it as a 3d version with extras. That might have been the most upsetting of all the double dips ever. They even included a coupon for the "ultimate" version because even the studio realized it was just a crap filler until the real version came out.

Except in both of those cases (Avatar and Transformers) it was announced before the 1st disc was even released that a bigger edition would be forthcoming. And you're right, the initial Transformers: DOTM Blu-ray had a $10 off coupon for the 3D special edition (which they didn't have to do). If you thought the first release was just filler, you'd have been foolish to buy it. Nobody was forced to buy those initial released and, therefore, they weren't subjected to "double dipping." The best example of a double dip is Good Will Hunting, where a beefed up SE was released less than a year later, but that wasn't Lionsgate's call. They merely distribute what Miramax releases.

You also have to understand that while Fox et al. might have wanted an extended cut for the initial Blu-ray release, it isn't always up to them. Directing a movie the size and scope of Prometheus is a massive undertaking and often the LAST thing a director wants to do after spending 2+ years prepping, shooting, editing, and promoting a film of this size is go back into the editing room to create an extended cut (especially in the time crunch created if you want to get the disc out before the holiday shopping starts). There's a lot of things to consider in how these get released, but it shouldn't automatically be assumed that everyone involved with this release is just out to get you.

[videohead]

Originally Posted by Dark.Devil.21

That's what makes this movie unique because if you get all the answers now, then there is no point of a sequel.

Also, at the end of the movie you see Shaw leaving with David to learn the answer to your above question. So, you can expect another movie to learn that. Personally I love the kind of movies that don't reveal much because that leaves the chances for another movie.

haha we were basically typing the same thing at same time! You got it in first tho! Kinda funny
as far as our opinions about the engineers' plot being revealed

[Dark.Devil.21]

Though I have one problem with most directors. Why do they always cut out a few scenes from the movie and include them as deleted scenes? I mean making a scene costs a lot of money. Why would they spend so much money to make a scene and not include it in the movie? It just doesn't make any sense.

That is why I like Christopher Nolan. He never makes a scene that he doesn't want in the movie. He usually never has any deleted scenes in his movies.

[Aragorn the Elfstone]

Originally Posted by Dark.Devil.21

Though I have one problem with most directors. Why do they always cut out a few scenes from the movie and include them as deleted scenes? I mean making a scene costs a lot of money. Why would they spend so much money to make a scene and not include it in the movie? It just doesn't make any sense.

That is why I like Christopher Nolan. He never makes a scene that he doesn't want in the movie. He usually never has any deleted scenes in his movies.

That's just the process of making and editing a movie. There's almost always scenes written in the script that end up being redundant or a hindrance to the film's pacing.

To expect that this wouldn't be the case is to not really understand the process of filmmaking.