Prometheus (2012)

[Monty70]

Originally Posted by Gremal

Did Casey B badly miss the real point of this movie in his review? Biggest clue missed: the name of the film. It can be watched as an extension of the Greek myth in which a titan steals fire from the Gods and creates humans. The Gods then sentenced Prometheus to an eternity of pain. This seems to be exactly what happened to the engineers in the film, for tinkering with life.

Casey claims that the film's writing needs to be tightened because some characters didn't behave in a believable way. But that was the whole point of the characters. The scientists who had no faith and rely only on empirical evidence behaved as little more than idiots. Meanwhile, the scientist who kept her faith survives, believing in divine purpose and an overarching creator. That is not a mistake of "bad writing". It is a comment on the human condition in which our quest for empirical knowledge ultimately guides us to destructive technologies antithetic to the act of creation. This theme was reinforced by the abortion scene--another defining sequence ignored in the review.

Well said. +1

[beckmen]

So this second screen stuff, not available on PC? I don't have an iPad, or Smart Phone, or LCARS-PADD or whatever the hell. :/

Anybody else having problems with the extras disc? On my Sony BD player, most of the time when I exit an enhancement pod it goes to a black screen and never comes back. I have to power cycle the player and find my place again. Luckily, on the PS3 is seems to be working fine.

[SirMontyPython]

Originally Posted by Gremal

Did Casey B badly miss the real point of this movie in his review? Biggest clue missed: the name of the film. It can be watched as an extension of the Greek myth in which a titan steals fire from the Gods and creates humans. The Gods then sentenced Prometheus to an eternity of pain. This seems to be exactly what happened to the engineers in the film, for tinkering with life.

Casey claims that the film's writing needs to be tightened because some characters didn't behave in a believable way. But that was the whole point of the characters. The scientists who had no faith and rely only on empirical evidence behaved as little more than idiots. Meanwhile, the scientist who kept her faith survives, believing in divine purpose and an overarching creator. That is not a mistake of "bad writing". It is a comment on the human condition in which our quest for empirical knowledge ultimately guides us to destructive technologies antithetic to the act of creation. This theme was reinforced by the abortion scene--another defining sequence ignored in the review.

I applaud you for this comparison, and it makes that much more sense from what I saw last night, and my wife saw this for the first time, and it really had her thinking, and I knew she clearly enjoyed the movie....she wasn't asking so many questions so I know she wasn't confused! I really enjoyed it that much more the 2nd time watching (1st time being in theaters in 3D with my son!), and there were parts I couldn't remember, but after this viewing, it makes a lot of sense, and the movie was brilliantly written!

[Mr.Twinks]

I watched this last night, albeit not at the volume level that I usually watch films (watching 2D version this weekend) and I thought the 3D was fantastic. Looking forward to watching the extras this week.

[Freelance Ronin]

Originally Posted by Gremal

Did Casey B badly miss the real point of this movie in his review? Biggest clue missed: the name of the film. It can be watched as an extension of the Greek myth in which a titan steals fire from the Gods and creates humans. The Gods then sentenced Prometheus to an eternity of pain. This seems to be exactly what happened to the engineers in the film, for tinkering with life.

Casey claims that the film's writing needs to be tightened because some characters didn't behave in a believable way. But that was the whole point of the characters. The scientists who had no faith and rely only on empirical evidence behaved as little more than idiots. Meanwhile, the scientist who kept her faith survives, believing in divine purpose and an overarching creator. That is not a mistake of "bad writing". It is a comment on the human condition in which our quest for empirical knowledge ultimately guides us to destructive technologies antithetic to the act of creation. This theme was reinforced by the abortion scene--another defining sequence ignored in the review.

You. I like you.

[beckmen]

Wait, so by having scientists abandon the scientific method, you disprove the worth of the scientific method?

[SirMontyPython]

Originally Posted by mytran80

pics of the target exclusive have been MIA yesterday so here's a few , supporting member at your service

I went in yesterday to a Target store here in Albuquerque and the guy I asked about the booklet version had ABSOLUTELY no clue what I was talking about.....I didn't even bother asking to have him check in the "back", and said that everything "should be on that rack", I just simply put the movie back on the rack and just walked away without even so much as acknowledging his existence....funny thing was, I asked if there were "any more versions of Prometheus 3D with the booklet", and he walked to the same area I was just at! Talk about facepalm moment....

[ManWithNoUsername]

I watched this last night. I think I liked it more the first time in the theaters. Second time through I noticed how cheesy some of it was. PQ was great though as expected.

[Show spoiler]If you watch the behind the scenes, there is just so many incredible designs that just didnt make it into the movie, and when watching the movie it really just feels kind of like a stock alien/sci-fi movie.

Wasnt a whole lot of originality or clever writing. The writing was a big problem for me. They had 2 writers on this movie, 1 guy who has never had a movie made and another guy who's written for mostly TV. Seems like they really could have used someone with a ton of experience and is a very smart and original writer in the sci-fi world. Way too many predictable scenes, people doing dumb things, too many under developed characters, strange scenes like with the captain singing that song after he talks to Vickers, just felt awkward, not enough original humor. They tried to have some funny lines except that they werent clever at all. "Blips, lifeforms, what the ****!" Come on.

Some of the design work was a bit odd. Like Fifield when he turned, he just looked stupid to me, Weyland just looked weird as hell. I know they wanted him to have some sort of young look to him in a way but to me this was just a bad decision. Should have actually went with an old actor IMO. The vehicles in the movie I dont think looked even as good as the ones in District 9 for example, or Avatar. It really feels like more of a middle of the road sci-fi movie and a little under developed.

Sorry for the rant, just my opinions on it, Im bored right now, and I did like the movie, just dont love it and really feel like it could have been a bit better with some more original writing and scenes. That said there is a bit to like about it too and Im REALLY looking forward to a sequel, its just that for a movie that was so anticipated and with how much work that went into it behind the scenes, Im not sure it really pays off on screen as well as it could have.

[Skemekos23]

Originally Posted by ManWithNoUsername

I watched this last night. I think I liked it more the first time in the theaters.

I think you are the only person in the world who liked it more the first time LOL

[ManWithNoUsername]

Originally Posted by Skemekos23

I think you are the only person in the world who liked it more the first time LOL

Well I think thats just from the wonder of what will happen so I was caught up in that and didnt notice some of my other issues I have now as much. Now I noticed how much stock writing was in it. When Fifield and Milburn first met, how many movies have we seen an exchange like that in? Was a chance to deliver a fun exchange except it falls flat, and there's so much of that in this movie that ive seen before. Little things like that add up for me to result in a movie that feels like maybe they didnt have the best writers in the world on this.

[ManWithNoUsername]

Maybe I expected too much. I guess I was wanting something that was just perfect in every way, like maybe some of Nolans recent movies that feel really fleshed out, but this isnt even close to that level.

With it being attached to Alien I was thinking it had a chance to go on to maybe become a really original and iconic sci-fi movie, but in the end its really not much different or better than many other sci-fi movies out there. I dont think it even touched District 9 which I feel is far more interesting and original.

I dont think its as good as the new Star Trek either. Maybe I would like it more if there wasnt other recent sci-fi movies out there that I think are much better than this. Still really excited about a sequel just to see where it goes.

[Sephiroth5929]

Originally Posted by beckmen

Wait, so by having scientists abandon the scientific method, you disprove the worth of the scientific method?

Please don't tell me this has some sort of religious overtones or undertones.

If it does, I might have to re-think this purchase. I like my Sci-Fi movies to be scientific, not some religious crap.

[Jumpman]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth5929

Please don't tell me this has some sort of religious overtones or undertones.

If it does, I might have to re-think this purchase. I like my Sci-Fi movies to be scientific, not some religious crap.

Well, start to rethink it.

[Jumpman]

Originally Posted by ManWithNoUsername

Maybe I expected too much. I guess I was wanting something that was just perfect in every way, like maybe some of Nolans recent movies that feel really fleshed out, but this isnt even close to that level.

With it being attached to Alien I was thinking it had a chance to go on to maybe become a really original and iconic sci-fi movie, but in the end its really not much different or better than many other sci-fi movies out there. I dont think it even touched District 9 which I feel is far more interesting and original.

I dont think its as good as the new Star Trek either. Maybe I would like it more if there wasnt other recent sci-fi movies out there that I think are much better than this. Still really excited about a sequel just to see where it goes.

The new Trek is a fun film. A blast to watch, but there's nothing going on at a deeper level with that film.

Prometheus, if nothing else, is a ridiculously intriguing film.

[UNCMT9]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth5929

Please don't tell me this has some sort of religious overtones or undertones.

If it does, I might have to re-think this purchase. I like my Sci-Fi movies to be scientific, not some religious crap.

The whole premis of the movie is the question surrounding life. For many, this includes the existence of a higher being , and yes it is referenced quite a bit in the film.

[R0CK0X]

Originally Posted by ManWithNoUsername

Maybe I expected too much.

Honestly I think there's going to be a lot of people who "blind buy" this that are going to be disappointed. I tell people going to see Prometheus to firstly not expect it to be anything closely resembling the other Alien movies and secondly to lower expectations all across the board. It's a good looking, idea-rich, narrative mess. Some people are going to love it, some are going to hate it.

But it LOOKS. GREAT.

[Skemekos23]

Originally Posted by Jumpman

Well, start to rethink it.

QFT!!!
This film is a walking religious undertone/overtone film.

[Skemekos23]

Originally Posted by ManWithNoUsername

Well I think thats just from the wonder of what will happen so I was caught up in that and didnt notice some of my other issues I have now as much. Now I noticed how much stock writing was in it. When Fifield and Milburn first met, how many movies have we seen an exchange like that in? Was a chance to deliver a fun exchange except it falls flat, and there's so much of that in this movie that ive seen before. Little things like that add up for me to result in a movie that feels like maybe they didnt have the best writers in the world on this.

I think most of us noticed all those problems on 1st viewing and so the next time we watched it, we wernt as disappointed.
I really didnt like the film the first time I watched it, but now Ive watched about 5-6 times and I like it a lot. I enjoyed it MUCH more on my second viewing in fact.
And I think its cool that you are one of the few(the only?) that liked it more the first time!

[zmarko]

Originally Posted by R0CK0X

it LOOKS. GREAT.

That it does. Fantastic looking Blu!

[hakstone]

Originally Posted by R0CK0X

But it LOOKS. GREAT.

I'm buying it strickly for the eye/ear candy. Haven't seen a well written movie in years.