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Old 10-11-2012, 04:36 AM   #3981
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I know Scott is producing the next Prometheus film, but is he directing it?
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Old 10-11-2012, 04:37 AM   #3982
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I know Scott is producing the next Prometheus film, but is he directing it?
should be James Cameron, Prometheuses
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Old 10-11-2012, 04:41 AM   #3983
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Old 10-11-2012, 04:43 AM   #3984
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Old 10-11-2012, 04:51 AM   #3985
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should be James Cameron, Prometheuses
You mean, "Promethei", right?
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Old 10-11-2012, 04:58 AM   #3986
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should be James Cameron, Prometheuses
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Old 10-11-2012, 05:00 AM   #3987
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Where is everyone putting Prometheus in their collection? With Alien? Before or after Alien? Or in the "P" section?
After Blade Runner, in my Ridley Scott sci-fi section.
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Old 10-11-2012, 05:06 AM   #3988
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Sure, I can agree with that. Still don't explain why they wanted to destroy it.
One of the characters asks the exact same question and David said "To create life, one must first destroy it".

So My guess is they wanted to destroy what was present on Earth, so they could create their new race there.

Seems like a logical explanation to me at least.
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Old 10-11-2012, 05:11 AM   #3989
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All we know is that the Engineers created humans and left "maps" for us to find them. Almost like they're telling us, "When you're ready, we'll be waiting." But something changed 2,000 years ago. Something changed that pissed off the Engineers to the extent where they wanted to wipe us out.

Remember, the black goo that is being used as a weapon was used in the beginning to create life. It could be used to create or destroy. The black goo actually REACTED to Shaw and crew when they went into the first "pyramid".

There are an insane amount of religious undertones to this movie. And we are shown a lot rather than being told. That's why I love this film - questions are answered but more questions rise. Just like life.
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nope Prometheuses
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Old 10-11-2012, 05:17 AM   #3991
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I don't actually see where the trip was secret. I only saw that Weyland staffed the ship with idiots
I picked up my collector's edition last night and won't have time to watch it until this weekend, but I did see this film twice in the theaters. I may be a little foggy on the details, but perhaps I can shed some light on this.

The mission of Prometheus (the crew and the ship) was not a secret. The fact that Peter Weyland was on board, however, was. In fact, nobody even knew he was still alive (much less on board) aside from his daughter and David. If you recall, in the beginning the crew are briefed about the mission by a holographic message supposedly taped by Weyland before his death. As far as the crew, or any other public relations are concerned, Weyland funded this trip as a scientific expedition based on Shaw and Holloway's discovery. Weyland's true motivations for the mission, however, were strictly selfish and self-serving.

This was a man with extreme wealth and endless resources who was approaching the end of his life and looking for a way to cheat death. His final hope lay in the slim possibility that Shaw and Holloway's discovery was indeed true and that they could inadvertently lead him to meet his creator. Who better to grant him immortality than the beings who supposedly created the human race? This covert mission to extend Weyland's life was being carried out solely by David. The rest of the crew were basically there as window dressing and completely superfluous to him in accomplishing his real goal, which obviously was to prolong his life. Taking all of this into account helps provide insight, not only into David's actions and motivations, but also the crew's lack of experience and professionalism...with the exception of Dr. Shaw, whom I suspect Weyland (as well as David) had some small amount of admiration for.
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Old 10-11-2012, 05:20 AM   #3992
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quick question:
[Show spoiler]if the engineer left his crashed ship to get shaw, then who is in the drivers seat in Alien?
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Old 10-11-2012, 05:20 AM   #3993
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As long as Jean-Pierre Jeunet doesn't direct the next one, I'm happy!

But all jokes aside, this is Ridley Scott's film, so I have no doubt he will direct the next one. Maybe it will also be a tribute to his brother.
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Old 10-11-2012, 05:24 AM   #3994
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Why *did* Tony Scott kill himself?
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Old 10-11-2012, 05:34 AM   #3995
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One of the characters asks the exact same question and David said "To create life, one must first destroy it".

So My guess is they wanted to destroy what was present on Earth, so they could create their new race there.

Seems like a logical explanation to me at least.
No, they created Earthlings and left signs to find them. That's my whole theory, which I spoiler'd way up above. The signs were there to guide Earthlings to find the Engineers. My theory is that when the Earthlings are intelligent enough and have enough resources to be able to find those planets, that's the sign to the Engineers that Earthlings have evolved enough to a certain level and now they must be destroyed. It's like if you created a bunch of ants and the ants start getting to smart. You don't want them getting to your level and so you then destroy them. Earthlings have reached that level by finding that base (which the Engineers left clues for in those caves on Earth).


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All we know is that the Engineers created humans and left "maps" for us to find them. Almost like they're telling us, "When you're ready, we'll be waiting." But something changed 2,000 years ago. Something changed that pissed off the Engineers to the extent where they wanted to wipe us out.

Remember, the black goo that is being used as a weapon was used in the beginning to create life. It could be used to create or destroy. The black goo actually REACTED to Shaw and crew when they went into the first "pyramid".

There are an insane amount of religious undertones to this movie. And we are shown a lot rather than being told. That's why I love this film - questions are answered but more questions rise. Just like life.
Totally disagree that the goo that the Engineer drinks in the prologue (which is what they used to create the DNA of humans) is the same goo that David puts in Holloway's drink. Just look at the results - the first one dissolves and creates life while the latter transforms to a mutant. Eventually, with the right combination, the latter is what gives birth to the Alien in Alien.
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Why *did* Tony Scott kill himself?
No one really knows. Some say he was ill, and some say he was depressed. Either way, he was a very talented director and a huge loss to Hollywood.
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Old 10-11-2012, 05:35 AM   #3997
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Where is everyone putting Prometheus in their collection? With Alien? Before or after Alien? Or in the "P" section?
It's not a prequel to Alien. It's another story that just happens to be in the same universe as Alien and shows how Alien came to be. Story-wise, completely different tales.
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I'm sure Fassbender will be nominated for his role in "Prometheus", but we shall see what other Oscar worthy films come out in the next couple months. I heard Daniel Day-Lewis gives a great performance in "Lincoln", so it might be a tough competition.
Fassbender has no chance of getting nominated, sorry.
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I picked up my collector's edition last night and won't have time to watch it until this weekend, but I did see this film twice in the theaters. I may be a little foggy on the details, but perhaps I can shed some light on this.

The mission of Prometheus (the crew and the ship) was not a secret. The fact that Peter Weyland was on board, however, was. In fact, nobody even knew he was still alive (much less on board) aside from his daughter and David. If you recall, in the beginning the crew are briefed about the mission by a holographic message supposedly taped by Weyland before his death. As far as the crew, or any other public relations are concerned, Weyland funded this trip as a scientific expedition based on Shaw and Holloway's discovery. Weyland's true motivations for the mission, however, were strictly selfish and self-serving.

This was a man with extreme wealth and endless resources who was approaching the end of his life and looking for a way to cheat death. His final hope lay in the slim possibility that Shaw and Holloway's discovery was indeed true and that they could inadvertently lead him to meet his creator. Who better to grant him immortality than the beings who supposedly created the human race? This covert mission to extend Weyland's life was being carried out solely by David. The rest of the crew were basically there as window dressing and completely superfluous to him in accomplishing his real goal, which obviously was to prolong his life. Taking all of this into account helps provide insight, not only into David's actions and motivations, but also the crew's lack of experience and professionalism...with the exception of Dr. Shaw, whom I suspect Weyland (as well as David) had some small amount of admiration for.
Good summary. This was clear in the film. The question again is why did the Engineer want to destroy Earth?
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nope Prometheuses
Prometheuses precious, gollum, gollum!
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