Prometheus (2012) - Page 215 - Blu-ray Forum

Mandalorian · 10-12-2012, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by deltasun

Yep, so my point to him is that it wasn't exactly back to Jesus' time.

My point was that it was about 2000 years, which is close enough to Jesus' time. They don't have to be exact. Most people just use a round figure, like they did.

Lucif3r · 10-12-2012, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by WESTHAMUTD1

Haven't watched all the bonus blu ray disc yet,but does it explaine what the holographic engineers were running from??heada baffled by that bit!

Not directly but the answer is an airborne biological toxin, i.e. the black ooze. Someone dropped a vial and they knew what would happen. It's kind of touched on in a deleted scene when Janek talks to Vickers about his military career and witnessing a biological agent outbreak.

i007spectre · 10-12-2012, 01:05 AM

Watched this tonight for the first time. Having never watched Aliens, I was able to take this movie at face value. Still enjoy reading all the theories though.

Lucif3r · 10-12-2012, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by RJ Smoove

My point was that it was about 2000 years, which is close enough to Jesus' time. They don't have to be exact. Most people just use a round figure, like they did.

If you guys want to cry about numbers, cover the fact that Vickers thinks they're in orbit around Jupiter.

Skemekos23 · 10-12-2012, 01:13 AM

How was David able to pick up the hologram of earth in the orrery?
Is it a hard-light hologram or something?

mzupeman · 10-12-2012, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Skemekos23

How was David able to pick up the hologram of earth in the orrery?
Is it a hard-light hologram or something?

It's not our technology... the technology belongs to the Engineers so basically, it's developed by an intellect far superior to our own. We aren't supposed to really 'know' that.

WESTHAMUTD1 · 10-12-2012, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Lucif3r

Not directly but the answer is an airborne biological toxin, i.e. the black ooze. Someone dropped a vial and they knew what would happen. It's kind of touched on in a deleted scene when Janek talks to Vickers about his military career and witnessing a biological agent outbreak.

Ah I get it now,thanks mate!watched it again today(3rd time,this time in 3d)absolutely love it!yeah there's unanswered questions but if its gonna be a trilogy,surely it will all be explained!just a bit crap that next ones gone be couple of years away!the bonus disc is the 1st special features I've EVER watched on a blu ray,only watched say about 30-45 mins and enjoying it!ill be trading my alien 4 disc anthology in for the 6 disc one to watch special features on that too,heard there pretty amazing??

jblank · 10-12-2012, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Kryptonic

They wanted to destroy us because they could and because we were a failed experiment.

That's a theory.

jblank · 10-12-2012, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by RJ Smoove

My point was that it was about 2000 years, which is close enough to Jesus' time. They don't have to be exact. Most people just use a round figure, like they did.

I feel like I'm talking to a wall. Scott himself said they thought about doing a Jesus as Engineer thing, but ruled it out as they thought it was too in your face. Jesus is not part of the Engineers and is not the reason for wanting to destroy us.

Mandalorian · 10-12-2012, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Lucif3r

If you guys want to cry about numbers, cover the fact that Vickers thinks they're in orbit around Jupiter.

No tears here...

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Originally Posted by jblank

I feel like I'm talking to a wall. Scott himself said they thought about doing a Jesus as Engineer thing, but ruled it out as they thought it was too in your face. Jesus is not part of the Engineers and is not the reason for wanting to destroy us.

I didn't say he was! I'm only discussing the hypothetical date debate going on. I don't care if that's actually in the film or not.

IlGialloMondadori · 10-12-2012, 01:59 AM

Just rewatched the film. Despite being angry at it when I saw it in the theatre, surprisingly, I found myself enjoying the film a great deal. It's still flawed, and I refuse to believe the 2000 years thing is anything other than a coincidence to set this sometime in line with Alien and the that Engineers crashed on LV 426 - and I hate the Space Jesus thing, so I'll just pretend it doesn't exist - but damn, I actually enjoyed it. I mostly viewed it as a horror film and didn't think about the science too much.

thephantomcat · 10-12-2012, 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by i007spectre

Watched this tonight for the first time. Having never watched Aliens, I was able to take this movie at face value. Still enjoy reading all the theories though.

How about a full on review from a newbie perspective before it's polluted my others views? That would be neat.

TheHighRoller · 10-12-2012, 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by NewjackBlu

They are known for putting stickers all over the place and the biggest ones

At least it Prometheus in shrinkwrap! That way you don't have to damage your slipcover with Goo Gone or alcohol. (Do aliens drink alcohol? Remember what happened to E.T.)

mrr1 · 10-12-2012, 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by jblank

Oh baloney! Look at some of the great films of all time, there is a wealth of discussion about them. Look at great sci-fi (Matrix, Star Wars, Star Trek, Blade Runner, etc), a lot of discussion. You're complaining about it being a "mess" yet many of us are able to understand where they are going perfectly, and realize this is a part of a series of films. We aren't meant to have it all figured out, but I think by in large most people are able to grasp what is going on and don't have a problem with it.

Come on, this movie is pretty good, but it is not in the same league as The Matrix, Star Wars, Star Trek, or Blade Runner.

And in case you haven't noticed, people are still confused as hell about it, albeit less since hearing the commentaries. But a movie should not require a commentary to make sense of elements in the plot. Still, with so many questions answered, people in this thread are still mostly trying to sort this crap out.

mrr1 · 10-12-2012, 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by PrestonXI

...there is something of value in this film that extends beyond simple narrative conventions.

Yeah, it's relationship to a different (and much better) movie called 'Alien'.

scoogs · 10-12-2012, 03:12 AM

Charles de Lauzirika debunks the Bladerunner connection below.
Original article here.

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Movies.com spoke with Prometheus Blu-ray producer and documentarian Charles de Lauzirika, who created the supposed communique written by Peter Weyland (Guy Pearce), which made some pretty obvious allusions to Blade Runner's Eldon Tyrell.

Now, is the excerpt actually canon in the Alien/Prometheus universe? Not really, says de Lauzirika:

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"That was me having fun and being cutesy. I wrote all that stuff. I actually said this at the press conference they had in London, which is that if it's in the film, it's canon. I would argue that the viral pieces that are included in the Peter Weyland Files are canon just because they originated with Ridley and Damon Lindelof. I would say those, to some degree, are canon. But anything else - especially these which are kind of like little cute, embedded text graphics on the menus - I wouldn't take those too seriously. It's just meant to be an in-universe framework for those viral pieces."

He apparently got the idea from fans online trying to connect the dots between the two acclaimed sci-fi universes, and thought he would have a little fun to see if anyone would catch on. Of course, everyone did:

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"As a Blade Runner fan, and because there's been so much talk before this even occurred with people on the Internet speculating that maybe Alien and Blade Runner and Prometheus could all exist in the same universe, it was just more of a wink at that. Absolutely nothing to be taken seriously. I mean, I sent it to Ridley and he had no comment. [Laughs] So, it's just icing on top of icing. It's not the cake. It's a fun, little side thing that's very superficial. And, by the way, it in no way officially establishes that it's Blade Runner because, if a lawyer were to comb through that, there's no reference to Tyrell or anything in Blade Runner. It's just a very lightly intentioned joke."

Brahby · 10-12-2012, 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by raygendreau

Actually, the stock certificate looks like a real, full color, stock certificate. It could become a collector's item. One can only hope. Mine is number 122

Damn I am number 207357. I dont know if I see it being a collectors item though since it is something you have to print out so essentially it could either look amazing or like complete poop depending on your printer and paper. I didnt have to get an email to get it. So for anyone else who is wanting to print this up just register on the project prometheus site and log in. After that I just googled Weylan Investors and the first link brought me directly to the certificate that already had my name and crap on it.

DreamVillain · 10-12-2012, 03:49 AM

Amazon is taking forever to ship my copy of Prometheus

Mandalorian · 10-12-2012, 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by DreamVillain

Amazon is taking forever to ship my copy of Prometheus

You pre-ordered?

raygendreau · 10-12-2012, 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by scoogs

Charles de Lauzirika debunks the Bladerunner connection below.
Original article here.

Rats!. He got me good with that.

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Originally Posted by Brahby

Damn I am number 207357. I dont know if I see it being a collectors item though since it is something you have to print out so essentially it could either look amazing or like complete poop depending on your printer and paper. I didnt have to get an email to get it. So for anyone else who is wanting to print this up just register on the project prometheus site and log in. After that I just googled Weylan Investors and the first link brought me directly to the certificate that already had my name and crap on it.

Hmmm. 207357. Not so limited edition. Maybe they lied and its open ended.

So, all you have to do is go here, sign up and print the certificate: http://www.projectprometheus.com/cert/

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Originally Posted by DreamVillain

Amazon is taking forever to ship my copy of Prometheus

Yes. I preordered months ago. It still hasn't listed as 'shipping soon'. I am using super saver shipping, but still quite a change from last year when I usually received BDs from them on release date or within a couple of days even with super saver. Since this order and Avatar 3D are on a gift card I'll wait, but it is unlikely that they will get future orders from me when I can buy from BB or Walmart for the same price or less.

I did get $10 in movie money to see Prometheus, so there was some advantage.

10-12-2012, 01:05 AM	#4283
i007spectre Blu-ray Archduke Member since:Aug 2012 Location:Missouri Home Theater Gallery:20 4K collection:130 Blu-ray collection:530 Trading Score:2	Watched this tonight for the first time. Having never watched Aliens, I was able to take this movie at face value. Still enjoy reading all the theories though.

10-12-2012, 01:13 AM	#4285
Skemekos23 Active Member Member since:Jun 2012 Blu-ray collection:131 DVD collection:39	How was David able to pick up the hologram of earth in the orrery? Is it a hard-light hologram or something?

10-12-2012, 01:59 AM	#4291
IlGialloMondadori Member Member since:Oct 2012	Just rewatched the film. Despite being angry at it when I saw it in the theatre, surprisingly, I found myself enjoying the film a great deal. It's still flawed, and I refuse to believe the 2000 years thing is anything other than a coincidence to set this sometime in line with Alien and the that Engineers crashed on LV 426 - and I hate the Space Jesus thing, so I'll just pretend it doesn't exist - but damn, I actually enjoyed it. I mostly viewed it as a horror film and didn't think about the science too much.

10-12-2012, 03:49 AM	#4298
DreamVillain Expert Member Member since:Feb 2011 Location:Miami, FL Blu-ray collection:403	Amazon is taking forever to ship my copy of Prometheus

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