Prometheus (2012)

[rjruby]

Originally Posted by TitusTroy

has anyone mentioned this?...read this today on DigitalBits...

"a number of readers are reporting problems with Fox’s Prometheus Blu-ray. Throughout the second half of the film, some copies are plagued with macro-blocking and will occasionally cause players to simply shut down. It appears to be a manufacturing error and isn’t affecting all copies, so if you’re having trouble we recommend you exchange it with your retailer. You can also contact Fox Customer Care at 1-888-223-4369"

So far I've had no problem on my PS3 (Fat) with the 2D or special features disc.

However, on my Sony BDP-S350 which is updated to the latest firmware, the 2D will sometimes display the macro-blocking problem and lock-up the player. This problem isn't consistant. Sometimers the 2D disc plays fine without a problem.

As someone asked before, has anyone had a problem with the 3D disc?

[s2mikey]

Originally Posted by Dead By Shaun

Meh...this is science fiction, not science. You could literally pick apart any sci-fi/fantasy film in much the same fashion. Several of the IMDb poster's arguments could be leveled at other films in the Alien franchise, or any space fantasy flick for that matter. Observations such as mastering gravity on a spaceship or hearing engines roaring through space are scenarios present in much of science fiction, including the Alien franchise. Either you choose to accept the world that's presented to you in these films and just go with it, or you don't. Is Prometheus a perfect film? No, it isn't. But neither are most films for that matter. It doesn't make the film any less enjoyable. If Star Wars were released today, it probably would undergo just as much scrutiny...oh wait, it did. It's called The Phantom Menace

So do people either "get" this film or "not get" it? Perhaps there's a small degree of truth to that, but if we were to be more honest with ourselves, I think the reason that this film is being held under the proverbial microscope is because it's part of the universe of a beloved franchise. I think expectations were unreasonably high based on Ridley's long-awaited return to the genre, and many out there already had preconceived notions about the direction this film should've taken, rather than walk into it and take the ride that was presented to them with an open mind. Many wanted another Aliens...others still wanted a direct prequel that segued right into the first film. Had Ridley attempted either of these paths, I think the results would have been less successful. Either the film would've been a retread of what came before it, or there wouldn't have been any elements of mystery or surprise left because Ridley would've been too busy connecting all the dots to the first film. I'm personally thrilled with the film we got and can't wait to see where Ridley takes us next. End rant

Understood and I somewhat agree. I still dont think the "getting it" card can be played here. There isnt any Lynchian multi-layering or heavy metaphors here. Its just a sci-fi flick. Lets not get all silly!

I also get the whole sci-fi films and realism thing not measuring up in plenty of other films too. That ties in with us having higher than average expectations for Ridleys films. We do. The details can make or break the deal. And, Aliens is a beloved franchise(well at least the first two films) so yeah, the bar has been set quite high. And why shouldnt it be set high? Why accept mediocrity? I expect a lot of out Ridley because hes done it before. Im not taking my foot off the throttle. Prometheus is decent yet quite flawed and is both intriguing and disappointing at the same time. I look forward to the sequel which simply has to be awesome.

[HD Goofnut]

As I was considering sleep last night I had a thought.

[Show spoiler]We learn near the end of the film that the last Engineer has been asleep in his cryo tube for about 2000 years. So we can assume that the mission to destroy human life on earth was initiated around that time. The film takes place in 2093, which would mean that 2000 years before would have been sometime around the switch from B.C.E. to C.E. So it makes you wonder what sparked the Engineers to terminate human life on Earth? Was it wars, starvation, or some other cataclysmic event such as the death of Christ?

I am just throwing some ideas around so please feel free to discuss.

[punisher]

He was pissed that Cleopatra gave him the crabs

[Reubania]

LOL. Who knows? Like David said, it's "irrelevant."

Anyway, after watching Prometheus first on IMAX 3D, then in a standard cinema in 2D, I am quite surprised the Blu ray 3D version looked incredibly well balanced. Had no problems playing the 3D version on my PS3 Slim with a Sony LED/LCD TV. The production of the 3D had incredible depth that didn't look "gimmicky". It's now way past midnight and I will have to watch the "Furious Gods" documentary tomorrow night.

Awesome package, awesome buy. So very happy to own this finally and it still gives me goosebumps.

[MidwestCrucible]

This movie was fantastic....not really getting why some people REALLY dislike it.

Maybe if you went into it expecting Alien but that's not really fair. Anyways, reading this thread, I heard a lot of people complaining about bad acting/bad writing in some parts. Seriously? Do you remember Aliens?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrjFuTbl_SA&feature=related

Some of the worst writing/acting ever and I love the movie! haha.

(regarding Prometheus) Not a perfect movie but god damn did I think it told a really interesting story. Film needs more of that these days.

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by Reubania

LOL. Who knows? Like David said, it's "irrelevant."

Anyway, after watching Prometheus first on IMAX 3D, then in a standard cinema in 2D, I am quite surprised the Blu ray 3D version looked incredibly well balanced. Had no problems playing the 3D version on my PS3 Slim with a Sony LED/LCD TV. The production of the 3D had incredible depth that didn't look "gimmicky". It's now way past midnight and I will have to watch the "Furious Gods" documentary tomorrow night.

Awesome package, awesome buy. So very happy to own this finally and it still gives me goosebumps.

As Shaw said "It does matter." and I happen to agree with the character.

[TM2-Megatron]

It'll be interesting to find out their reasoning in the sequel, however since their DNA is a match for human DNA, is it not possible that they're also just dicks?

[s2mikey]

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

As I was considering sleep last night I had a thought.

[Show spoiler]We learn near the end of the film that the last Engineer has been asleep in his cryo tube for about 2000 years. So we can assume that the mission to destroy human life on earth was initiated around that time. The film takes place in 2093, which would mean that 2000 years before would have been sometime around the switch from B.C.E. to C.E. So it makes you wonder what sparked the Engineers to terminate human life on Earth? Was it wars, starvation, or some other cataclysmic event such as the death of Christ?

I am just throwing some ideas around so please feel free to discuss.

Yeah - thats a biggy right there. Hopefully we get a lot more info in the sequel.

[dookiex]

Originally Posted by BouCoupDinkyDau

Uh, okay. So you don't want to see them but you are going to see them. Makes sense.

BHD is an average film. Robin Hood is just plain terrible. And Scott didn't write the script to Prometheus, so I have no idea where you got that from.

Basically, your post makes almost no sense.

First off, if you had bothered to read my post carefully, I NEVER said that Ridley Scott wrote the script for Prometheus. What I DID say was that either the script itself was just bad to begin with (in which Ridley Scott has thus failed to change so that it would have become a better film) or the script was ok but Ridley Scott has failed to do justice in the execution.

As for why I would see them, well, it is all part of the Alien world is it not? That is the kryptonite of the fans is it not? Fans have generally watched all the films including AvP have they not? I also have a soft spot for Ridley Scott based on his earlier works and have always hoped that he may do a 180 one day and make a good film again thus I will of course go see more of his films.

So bottom line, my post actually made a lot of sense, what didn't make sense is the way you've chose to blatantly ignore the majority of my post and have ultimately interpreted my post as a simple "I hate this film." On that count, I don't despise the film, but I'm being realistic here, it's not a good film. It throws around a lot of grand ideas which WOULD HAVE made a great film but the end product is NOT that film. One can only judge the film that it is and NOT the film that it could have been. A lot of praise for the film has been about how it brings about profound questions, philosophical questions, about creation, existence, destruction, father child relationships, etc. but the problem is, the film itself in it's execution FAILS AS A FILM to express these things, there's barely any exposition and it's OBVIOUSLY not a abstract work like Tree of Life where it has the license to be abstract (and honestly, Tree of Life, as abstract as it is, is still a FAR better executed film in terms of expressing the ideas that it is exploring).

Again, I hope that the majority of you watch Prometheus OBJECTIVELY and then watch all the deleted and alternate scenes. It's becomes INCREDIBLY apparent that Ridley Scott simply failed at executing a good film, he quite literally just shot a lot of off the wall ideas (many of which he did so wrecklessly, with little care to actually caring about pacing, narrative, or logic in many cases, and we're talking about lack of logic even for a sci-fi film) and hoped that the film would magically piece itself together. Remember, MOST people thought that the theatrical cut of the film was lacking due to much of the material possibly having been left on the cutting room floor, but now it's clearly evident that the theatrical cut is probably the best version of the film (much of the deleted scenes and alternate scenes and extended scenes were just actually incredibly bad, if one thought that the acting was bad as it is, it's exponentially worse in what was left in the editing room). It's really sad if one thinks about it, they had all these great ideas, TRULY great ideas, but they kind of stopped right there after they discussed the ideas, it's like the winged the narrative writing process and the actual filming of the thing.

Ultimately, it's ridiculous to see so much praise for the film based on the PROMISES of those great ideas the film presents instead of being honest about the film that IS there.

[wonkavision]

Finally had a chance to watch this a couple nights ago. Sure looked nice, although I didn't find it amazing or anything. Pretty straightforward and at times rather goofy. I have to admit, but I had a good laugh

[Show spoiler] at the end when the alien was born. It was just downright funny.

[johnstrk]

Originally Posted by MidwestCrucible

This movie was fantastic....not really getting why some people REALLY dislike it.

Maybe if you went into it expecting Alien but that's not really fair. Anyways, reading this thread, I heard a lot of people complaining about bad acting/bad writing in some parts. Seriously? Do you remember Aliens? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrjFu...eature=related

Some of the worst writing/acting ever and I love the movie! haha.

(regarding Prometheus) Not a perfect movie but god damn did I think it told a really interesting story. Film needs more of that these days.

Ahhh Private Hudson! Love that guy. C'mon that's some of the best acting ever. Lol. Game over man, GAME OVER!!!

[bkhage01]

Originally Posted by MidwestCrucible

This movie was fantastic....not really getting why some people REALLY dislike it.

Maybe if you went into it expecting Alien but that's not really fair. Anyways, reading this thread, I heard a lot of people complaining about bad acting/bad writing in some parts. Seriously? Do you remember Aliens? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrjFu...eature=related

Some of the worst writing/acting ever and I love the movie! haha.

(regarding Prometheus) Not a perfect movie but god damn did I think it told a really interesting story. Film needs more of that these days.

Originally Posted by johnstrk

Ahhh Private Hudson! Love that guy. C'mon that's some of the best acting ever. Lol. Game over man, GAME OVER!!!

I read a great piece of movie trivia once regarding Bill Paxton.

[Show spoiler]He is the only actor to have had his character killed by: the Terminator, Aliens, and a Predator.

[deltasun]

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

As I was considering sleep last night I had a thought.

[Show spoiler]We learn near the end of the film that the last Engineer has been asleep in his cryo tube for about 2000 years. So we can assume that the mission to destroy human life on earth was initiated around that time. The film takes place in 2093, which would mean that 2000 years before would have been sometime around the switch from B.C.E. to C.E. So it makes you wonder what sparked the Engineers to terminate human life on Earth? Was it wars, starvation, or some other cataclysmic event such as the death of Christ?

I am just throwing some ideas around so please feel free to discuss.

This was brought up a few times before already.

Also, to be clear - the severed head was from 2000 years prior. We can't say for certain that the cryo Engineer was from 2000 years prior as well. Of course, more questions - why was he in cryo? If he was supposed to blow up Earth 2000 years prior, why didn't he? Did someone force him into the cryo chamber?

[Spider]

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

As I was considering sleep last night I had a thought.

[Show spoiler]We learn near the end of the film that the last Engineer has been asleep in his cryo tube for about 2000 years. So we can assume that the mission to destroy human life on earth was initiated around that time. The film takes place in 2093, which would mean that 2000 years before would have been sometime around the switch from B.C.E. to C.E. So it makes you wonder what sparked the Engineers to terminate human life on Earth? Was it wars, starvation, or some other cataclysmic event such as the death of Christ?

I am just throwing some ideas around so please feel free to discuss.

Guess we started praying to the wrong god(s). That pissed them off.

[mrr1]

Originally Posted by dookiex

Ultimately, it's ridiculous to see so much praise for the film based on the PROMISES of those great ideas the film presents instead of being honest about the film that IS there.

Well said.

In addition, the entire "promise of a big payoff" is what kept fans of the Lost series coming back episode after episode. The fact that the same writer is involved is obvious and makes me skeptical that sequels will actually fulfill what fans of this movie want to see.

My fear with Prometheus is that it is just like an episode of Lost - a bunch of intriguing ideas, vague clues, arcane details, and cryptic foreshadowing are introduced, and fans speculate like crazy over what it all means. But in the end nothing is explained without raising more questions, and the writer admits he had no grand idea and was just flying by the seat of his pants the entire time.

[LobsterPot]

Originally Posted by videohead

also...

[Show spoiler]how does fifield make it to the ship with a hole in the helmet? 2 minutes and your dead I thought?

Yea
except that

[Show spoiler]he was turning into a monster lol

[Aragorn the Elfstone]

That's funny. Here I thought I kept coming back to Lost because of all the great characters.

[faglun]

I really loved this film reminded me of the pacing of Alien and Aliens, smooth , suspenseful. I really wish Cameron directed this,

only thing pissed me of was when

[Show spoiler]Shaw was utilizing the Medi Pod to extract the foreign fetus and none of the characters showed concern after the events occurred

Fassbender's portrayal as well as Shaw's performance were excellent, I wish the Captain was more like - Sergeant Al Apone from Aliens - quite funny

[ObiWanShinobi]

I love the naysayers of this film. They dislike it so much they just can't stop talking about it lol.

Seems to me like the unanswered questions baffle, intrigue, or upset people but it keeps em talkin all the same. Carry on