Prometheus (2012)

[raygendreau]

Originally Posted by BouCoupDinkyDau

All they need to know is one thing:
WHERE. THEY. ARE.

I wouldn't mind seeing Cameron direct some future Prometheus sequel after Paradise is released around 2014. It would do well at the box office.

[Boomshadow]

WHy isn't there commentary on the 3D disc? Is it a space or marketing issue? Doesn't makes sense. Same thing with Avengers, and I am sure other titles as well. If I am going to watch Ridley talking about 3D I would prefer not to watch it in 2D.

Any ideas?

[retablo]

Originally Posted by raygendreau

How it works: There are microscopic organisms in suspension in the black goo. The black goo is placed in ampules. The ampules are dropped on a planet. The organisms are released. They infect the sentient life. The sentient life is morphed into xenomorphs. The xenomorphs eradicate all indigenous sentient life on the planet in 5-6 months. It is more epidemic than warfare in the conventional sense.

Except the sentient life doesn't turn into xenomorphs. It just inexplicably turns people into weird zombies a la Fifield.

[wormraper]

Originally Posted by retablo

Except the sentient life doesn't turn into xenomorphs. It just inexplicably turns people into weird zombies a la Fifield.

it seem more to affect each lifeform in a different way.

[raygendreau]

Originally Posted by johnstrk

Oh I seriously hope not. If there are indeed one or two sequels to Prometheus, then the closing scene of the final movie had better end with the The Derelict ship landing/crashing on LV-426 and the Engineer/Space Jockey sending out the distress call/warning just before a true Xenomorph bursts from his chest!!!

We know there will be one sequel with the working title Paradise. The second sequel is iffy, since we won't know until 2014 how well Paradise does. If Paradise does well, they may not go back to LV-426 with the second sequel if there is one. If they do close the loop, will the derelict hull contain ampules or eggs? Will the size of the Engineer in the chair be reduced to conform to Prometheus or the Alien film?

[raygendreau]

Originally Posted by retablo

Except the sentient life doesn't turn into xenomorphs. It just inexplicably turns people into weird zombies a la Fifield.

Both Fifield and Holloway

[Show spoiler] were killed before the morphing was completed

.

@wormraper. it seem more to affect each lifeform in a different way

True, but follow the logical progression.

[Show spoiler] The harmless worm is infected and becomes the agressive Hammerpede. The Hammerpede infects/'impregnates' Wilburn. Wilburn dies before the next stage. Fifield ingests the goo and begins to morph. This is cut short by Vickers.
Holloway ingests the goo and begins to slowly morph; 'impregnates' Shaw. Trilobyte results which 'impregnates' Engineer resulting in the 'birth' of the Deacon. Deacon appears to be hell bent on further destruction of sentient beings. Holloway is turned into a crispy critter by Vickers, but morphing would have resulted in Holloway agressively seeking out and killing the crew ala Fifield.

[Akubrick1]

I would be suprised if any of the forthcoming sequels dealt with the Xenomorphs to any in-depth degree. Scott had THAT sequel in hand and decided to bring in another writer just to expand the possibilities. Now they have a sequel path where their hands are not tied by continuity. Somewhat similiar to the recent Star Trek reboot. I would also be suprised to see any mention of a Queen.. as this was not a Ridley Scott creation or concept. I was really suprised by the "building better worlds" tip of the hat.

[BouCoupDinkyDau]

Originally Posted by raygendreau

I wouldn't mind seeing Cameron direct some future Prometheus sequel after Paradise is released around 2014. It would do well at the box office.

Yes, but please get somebody else to write it. His stories and characters are starting to become predictive and repetitive. There's also a sterility to his current style that just kind of turns me off.

Oh, and I'm kind of tired of Hollywood turning the entire world in every movie BLUE. There are other colors out there folks.

[johnstrk]

Originally Posted by Akubrick1

I would be suprised if any of the forthcoming sequels dealt with the Xenomorphs to any in-depth degree.

I could care less if they do. I'm curious about the Engineers story now thanks to Prometheus. I just want it to somehow tie in and end with The Derelict ship and that Space Jockey. I will be standing and applauding very loudly on that day!!

[raygendreau]

Originally Posted by BouCoupDinkyDau

Yes, but please get somebody else to write it. His stories and characters are starting to become predictive and repetitive. There's also a sterility to his current style that just kind of turns me off.

Oh, and I'm kind of tired of Hollywood turning the entire world in every movie BLUE. There are other colors out there folks.

Hmmm. Looking at your avatar.

[BouCoupDinkyDau]

Originally Posted by raygendreau

Hmmm. Looking at your avatar.

You know, right after I said that I thought about that. Now I'm going to go back to that drawing and give my background a nice coat of Acheron BROWN.

[johnstrk]

Originally Posted by BouCoupDinkyDau

Yes, but please get somebody else to write it. His stories and characters are starting to become predictive and repetitive. There's also a sterility to his current style that just kind of turns me off.

Oh, and I'm kind of tired of Hollywood turning the entire world in every movie BLUE. There are other colors out there folks.

Hopefully there's a another Derelict ship or vases of black goo on Pandora

[retablo]

Originally Posted by raygendreau

Both Fifield and Holloway

[Show spoiler] were killed before the morphing was completed

.

@wormraper. it seem more to affect each lifeform in a different way

True, but follow the logical progression.

[Show spoiler] The harmless worm is infected and becomes the agressive Hammerpede. The Hammerpede infects/'impregnates' Wilburn. Wilburn dies before the next stage. Fifield ingests the goo and begins to morph. This is cut short by Vickers.
Holloway ingests the goo and begins to slowly morph; 'impregnates' Shaw. Trilobyte results which 'impregnates' Engineer resulting in the 'birth' of the Deacon. Deacon appears to be hell bent on further destruction of sentient beings. Holloway is turned into a crispy critter by Vickers, but morphing would have resulted in Holloway agressively seeking out and killing the crew ala Fifield.

Lots of explaining for something that should've been made way more clear. Sorry, but the goo wouldn't morph anyone into the xenomorph from Alien, which was born a completely different way. That's just reaching.

Not to mention, the dead engineers all had chest-burster wounds, and weren't "morphed into weird zombie whatevers. Since they were technically "human", with the same DNA, they should've been affected the same way. But bad writing robbed anyone of any clear explanation of anything.

[BouCoupDinkyDau]

Originally Posted by johnstrk

Hopefully there's a another Derelict ship or vases of black goo on Pandora

We can only hope.

[srinivas1015]

What would you like to change in Prometheus?

[R0CK0X]

Originally Posted by raygendreau

Trying to tie in Alien and Aliens films with Prometheus will lead to frustration, since the only relationship between Prometheus and Alien is the DNA of the Alien.

Until the Prometheus series contains direct narrative links to any of the Alien movies, I'm pretty content with just seeing Prometheus as a reboot, rather than a "pseduo-prequel to Alien" or a "movie with strands of Alien DNA" or whatever people wish to call it.

[stvn1974]

Just tried to order the 3D set from amazon.com and it wouldn't let me and now it shows it as out of stock.

[raygendreau]

Originally Posted by retablo

Lots of explaining for something that should've been made way more clear. Sorry, but the goo wouldn't morph anyone into the xenomorph from Alien, which was born a completely different way. That's just reaching.

Not to mention, the dead engineers all had chest-burster wounds, and weren't "morphed into weird zombie whatevers. Since they were technically "human", with the same DNA, they should've been affected the same way. But bad writing robbed anyone of any clear explanation of anything.

The end result of morphing would have been clearer had Scott used the CG Fifield rather than the actor. Check the alternate scene and Fifield concept art on the BD. You can't miss the elongation of the head ala xenomorph.

The Engineer shares DNA with humans but is further along in the evolutionary scale. When goo is ingested, the Engineer will almost immediately deconstruct into airborne and waterborne microscopic organisms.

[Show spoiler]When the Engineer was 'impregnated' ala Shaw Trilobite, the result was the Deacon

. (not the normal course of events.) I would speculate that goo ingestion, deconstruction, evolution is the only means of reproduction available to the Engineers and they are at the endpoint in their evolution. So, if things go wrong during the evolutionary process on a reseeded world, the next step is to eradicate the sentient life and begin again. "To create, you must first destroy" (David 8)

[retablo]

Originally Posted by raygendreau

The end result of morphing would have been clearer had Scott used the CG Fifield rather than the actor. Check the alternate scene and Fifield concept art on the BD. You can't miss the elongation of the head ala xenomorph.

The Engineer shares DNA with humans but is further along in the evolutionary scale. When goo is ingested, the Engineer will almost immediately deconstruct into airborne and waterborne microscopic organisms.

[Show spoiler]When the Engineer was 'impregnated' ala Shaw Trilobite, the result was the Deacon

. (not the normal course of events.) I would speculate that goo ingestion, deconstruction, evolution is the only means of reproduction available to the Engineers and they are at the endpoint in their evolution. So, if things go wrong during the evolutionary process on a reseeded world, the next step is to eradicate the sentient life and begin again. "To create, you must first destroy" (David 8)

Honestly, though, it doesn't matter what's in alternate scenes or concept art... all that matters is what's in the film itself.

[BouCoupDinkyDau]

Originally Posted by raygendreau

The end result of morphing would have been clearer had Scott used the CG Fifield rather than the actor. Check the alternate scene and Fifield concept art on the BD. You can't miss the elongation of the head ala xenomorph.

The Engineer shares DNA with humans but is further along in the evolutionary scale. When goo is ingested, the Engineer will almost immediately deconstruct into airborne and waterborne microscopic organisms.

[Show spoiler]When the Engineer was 'impregnated' ala Shaw Trilobite, the result was the Deacon

. (not the normal course of events.) I would speculate that goo ingestion, deconstruction, evolution is the only means of reproduction available to the Engineers and they are at the endpoint in their evolution. So, if things go wrong during the evolutionary process on a reseeded world, the next step is to eradicate the sentient life and begin again. "To create, you must first destroy" (David 8)

All of which will probably be clearer when the sequel arrives, as Scott said from the beginning this was a two-movie story.