Prometheus (2012)

[The Fallen Deity]

Originally Posted by mar3o

Agreed. To this day, Alien still has some of the most frightening imagery. And the frightening music adds to that effect as well. When you first see the Space Jockey, and the camera pulls slowly back, I still get chills from the music that accompanies it. Alien is indeed one of the few films that looks truly Alien. Nothing on LV-426 looks man-made.

+1

Jerry Goldsmith's score is sublime.

[mar3o]

Originally Posted by Lentulus Batiatus

That entire blog was hating on EVERYTHING Prometheus because it wasn't the same as Alien. It didn't matter what the designs looked like, it would have garnered the same result. The suits look different there for they SUCK! The planet is different there for is SUCKS! The ship is different there for it SUCKS!

Prometheus is not a shot-for-shot remake of Alien. It exists in the same universe but like our own existence that universe is vastly different. The things in Alien look like everything you'd see in sci-fi movies from the mid-70's onward. It borrows heavily from Star Wars and other influences. It was made with late 70's technology. If it was made today it would be all CGI and designed with today's audience in mind. That entire blog was just a trash piece written to flame Prometheus without any actual thought or analysis. OMG Charlize Theron is to pretty!!!!!!!

There was no consistency between the two films. He's right about that. Alien nailed the look. Prometheus was supposed to take place decades before Alien but sported technology that was far more advanced than we saw in Alien. They should have toned down the look of the technology so they didn't look more advanced than in Alien. 3D image mapping, the "pups", the advanced cryo tubes - it's all far more advanced than in Alien, yet it shouldn't be. I can buy that the mining ship might not have had the absolute state-of-the-art tech, being an industrial ship, but the look in Prometheus is just too clean - it looks too much like "new Star Trek". And the space suits were pretty lame compared to Alien. It all goes back to the general production design. he didn't like it, and I don't like it much myself.

[mar3o]

Originally Posted by Lentulus Batiatus

This is a Blu-ray forum. 10 years ago it didn't exist. In 10 years it may be gone forever. And at this point in human history the best we can do for space travel is take 3 days to go to a useless rock of nothing. And that hasn't been done in 30 years.

The moon is far from a useless rock of nothing. It will prove to be a stepping stone for our journey into the stars, if we can ever get our act together down here.

[The Fallen Deity]

Originally Posted by mar3o

There was no consistency between the two films. He's right about that. Alien nailed the look. Prometheus was supposed to take place decades before Alien but sported technology that was far more advanced than we saw in Alien. They should have toned down the look of the technology so they didn't look more advanced than in Alien. 3D image mapping, the "pups", the advanced cryo tubes - it's all far more advanced than in Alien, yet it shouldn't be. I can buy that the mining ship might not have had the absolute state-of-the-art tech, being an industrial ship, but the look in Prometheus is just too clean - it looks too much like "new Star Trek". And the space suits were pretty lame compared to Alien. It all goes back to the general production design. he didn't like it, and I don't like it much myself.

I think you've pretty much explained the reason why.

The Nostromo is essentially a mobile factory in space, it's not really going to be pristine looking or be in the best of conditions.

It makes more sense that a science vessel would look much better and be in better condition.

For all we know the Nostromo could be older than the Prometheus.

[Lentulus Batiatus]

Originally Posted by mar3o

There was no consistency between the two films. He's right about that. Alien nailed the look. Prometheus was supposed to take place decades before Alien but sported technology that was far more advanced than we saw in Alien. They should have toned down the look of the technology so they didn't look more advanced than in Alien. 3D image mapping, the "pups", the advanced cryo tubes - it's all far more advanced than in Alien, yet it shouldn't be. I can buy that the mining ship might not have had the absolute state-of-the-art tech, being an industrial ship, but the look in Prometheus is just too clean - it looks too much like "new Star Trek". And the space suits were pretty lame compared to Alien. It all goes back to the general production design. he didn't like it, and I don't like it much myself.

You are going on and on about your own subjective opinion about what YOU think the universe should look like. Stating anything from that blog as being right just makes your argument look worse. You don't like it. So be it. But because you don't like that a science mission with all the latest tech looks to pretty and clean compared to a old, ugly factory doesn't mean the production design was a failure. In fact, it succeed quite well considering how much it gets your panties in a knot.

50 year old factories look NOTHING like a state-of-the-art science lab. Neither likely do the clothes the people working in each wear. Or the tools they use. There's likely still people out there reading this on Windows 2000. The factories around me still look like they did in the 50's when they were built. Yes they have modern computers in them, but they also haven't been drifting through space for decades either. Your points all fail to grasp any common-sense reality and rather just enrage your own opinion.

As for the moon being useless, well, it is pretty much. The point still stands that so much has changed in our world in 30 years yet we aren't anywhere near deep space hypersleep travel. Plenty more "normal" stuff will change before we ever achieve that mission as well.

[mar3o]

Originally Posted by Lentulus Batiatus

You are going on and on about your own subjective opinion about what YOU think the universe should look like. Stating anything from that blog as being right just makes your argument look worse. You don't like it. So be it. But because you don't like that a science mission with all the latest tech looks to pretty and clean compared to a old, ugly factory doesn't mean the production design was a failure. In fact, it succeed quite well considering how much it gets your panties in a knot.

50 year old factories look NOTHING like a state-of-the-art science lab. Neither likely do the clothes the people working in each wear. Or the tools they use. There's likely still people out there reading this on Windows 2000. The factories around me still look like they did in the 50's when they were built. Yes they have modern computers in them, but they also haven't been drifting through space for decades either. Your points all fail to grasp any common-sense reality and rather just enrage your own opinion.

As for the moon being useless, well, it is pretty much. The point still stands that so much has changed in our world in 30 years yet we aren't anywhere near deep space hypersleep travel. Plenty more "normal" stuff will change before we ever achieve that mission as well.

Is there any reason why you sound so angry? It's just a discussion. Everything people post in here is opinion for the most part. That should be obvious. We can do without the attitudes in here.

And no, the moon isn't useless. That's not an opinion.

[poke smot]

the moon useless? well let's see...it controls the tides, it protects earth from asteroids, oh yeah, it also helps keep the earth on a consistent axis. um no the moon is not useless.

[Lemmy Lugosi]

Originally Posted by mar3o

Is there any reason why you sound so angry? It's just a discussion. Everything people post in here is opinion for the most part. That should be obvious.

Thou shalt kneel before the greatness that is Lentulus!

[Early Memphis]

... lest thou be judged by Lemmy Pontius Pilate and the ides of mar3o!?!

[chip75]

Originally Posted by Lentulus Batiatus

The point still stands that so much has changed in our world in 30 years yet we aren't anywhere near deep space hypersleep travel.

Scientists are about to discover that this thread can put people into a deep space hyper-sleep.

I think for most part the technology in Prometheus can be explained that everything is state-of-the-art and the best money can buy but that stuff should have been left to Vickers' life-pod. The main ship should have had some throwbacks.

Hyper-sleep could be terrible, though, you start your journey's naptime with Windows 7 and wake up to Windows 8. I'd be drinking that black-goo from The X-Files just to make the pain go away ...

[Early Memphis]

Originally Posted by chip75

Scientists are about to discover that this thread can put people into a deep space hyper-sleep ... Hyper-sleep could be terrible, though, you start your journey's naptime with Windows 7 and wake up to Windows 8. I'd be drinking that black-goo from The X-Files just to make the pain go away ...

[BouCoupDinkyDau]

Originally Posted by The Fallen Deity

The Nostromo is essentially a mobile factory in space

Technically, it's a tug pulling a factory behind it.

Originally Posted by Lentulus Batiatus

And at this point in human history the best we can do for space travel is take 3 days to go to a useless rock of nothing. And that hasn't been done in 30 years.

Whoa there. The moon is anything but a worthless rock. It's helped us understand the history of our planet, given us a testing platform for missions to other planets, regulates the tides, and draws in some of the potentially dangerous rocks that would have otherwise hit us (it's also come in handy for werewolves).

Somebody needs a drink, and it ain't me.

[nagysaudio]

Originally Posted by BouCoupDinkyDau

Whoa there. The moon is anything but a worthless rock. It's helped us understand the history of our planet, given us a testing platform for missions to other planets, regulates the tides, and draws in some of the potentially dangerous rocks that would have otherwise hit us.

Somebody needs a drink, and it ain't me.

Just had three IPAs, all from tap, $6 total, in Chicago no less, can't beat that!

Dogfish Head 60 Minute
Revolution Anti Hero (x2)

[BouCoupDinkyDau]

Originally Posted by nagysaudio

Just had three IPAs, all from tap, $6 total, in Chicago no less, can't beat that!

Dogfish Head 60 Minute
Revolution Anti Hero (x2)

Can't do IPAs. Give me a lager.

Drop Top
Flat Tire
Fosters
Hefeweizen

[nagysaudio]

Originally Posted by BouCoupDinkyDau

Can't do IPAs. Give me a lager.

Drop Top
Flat Tire
Fosters
Hefeweizen

But an IPA is the manliest of drinks and so addicting!

[BouCoupDinkyDau]

Originally Posted by nagysaudio

But an IPA is the manliest of drinks and so addicting!

Dark ales are the manliest of drinks! A pint of bitter will grow hairs on yer chest, laddy!!

[nagysaudio]

Originally Posted by BouCoupDinkyDau

Dark ales are the manliest of drinks! A pint of bitter will grow hairs on yer chest, laddy!!

I love me some Russian River and Three Floyds

[BouCoupDinkyDau]

Originally Posted by nagysaudio

I love me some Russian River and Three Floyds

I say we put it to a vote:
Who wants to change this from the Prometheus thread to the Official Blu-ray.com Beer Thread?

[nagysaudio]

Originally Posted by BouCoupDinkyDau

I say we put it to a vote:
Who wants to change this from the Prometheus thread to the Official Blu-ray.com Beer Thread?

Yes! Yes! Yes!

[BouCoupDinkyDau]

Originally Posted by nagysaudio

Yes! Yes! Yes!