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Old 08-28-2012, 01:10 AM   #761
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Also, we're now down to just, what, six weeks? When are they going to announce this sucker?!
I know, right? It's the same with The Cabin in The Woods where Lionsgate took FOREVER to announce it. I didn't know FOX was the same way.
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Old 08-28-2012, 01:46 AM   #762
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Alternate beginning and ending on BD, probably the extended fight scene with the ax at the end and the multiple engineers (elderly engineers) at the beginning.
Also the beginning scenes with Shaw that were in the trailer but not in the movie.
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Old 08-28-2012, 04:21 AM   #763
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It's funny, I didn't like it when I walked out of the theater, but upon further reflection, I dislike it even more. The plot holes, weak characters, and script deficiencies become even MORE apparent upon further reflection. Oh well, just another in the long line of disappointing summer films.
Absolutely on point. The Alien franchise is done. It's beyond done. It's been wrung of any and all interesting ideas; the same 'shocking' story elements and sexual imagery have been re-hashed endlessly.

Alien as genetically engineered military weapon, check.

Corrupt military contractor with smarmy pr reps, check.

Tough guys being reduced to drooling, crying goo when confronted with toothy grinning, hungry alien, check.

Space crew meandering into dark, dangerous caves and getting mauled, check.

Gutsy brunette heroine of varying heights, check.

Gutsy brunette heroine getting frustrated with limited interactive options available to her as a result of the spaceship's programming protocol, check.

Rubber puppets covered in massive quantities of aloe vera, check.

Synthetic human getting decapitated and holding corny conversation with said brunette heroine afterwards, check.


There are only so many times these tropes and gimmicks can get trotted out without the audience doing a series of facepalms at the undue, color by numbers repetition. The franchise concluded beautifully with aliens. Everything afterwards has been warmed over, rehashed, and become continually less interesting with each iteration. Enough is enough!

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Old 08-28-2012, 04:36 AM   #764
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Well $342 million dollars in the box office later the sequel is a go!!! Sorry to disappoint.
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Old 08-28-2012, 04:48 AM   #765
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Well $342 million dollars in the box office later the sequel is a go!!! Sorry to disappoint.
LOL, but that doesn't mean it's a good movie.
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Old 08-28-2012, 04:49 AM   #766
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LOL, but that doesn't mean it's a good movie.
...and, yet it is, nonetheless.
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Old 08-28-2012, 04:52 AM   #767
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...and, yet it is, nonetheless.
3.4 stars on amazon; 72% on rottentomatoes; that sounds about right. Not a horrible film, just very unoriginal. Someone new to the franchise might like it more.
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That's funny, I liked it when I walked out of the theater, but upon further reflection , I liked it even more. Then I saw it a second time and realized I loved it! So now I've got it on preorder and soon I will own it!
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Old 08-28-2012, 04:54 AM   #769
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3.4 stars on amazon; 72% on rottentomatoes; that sounds about right. Not a horrible film, just very unoriginal. Someone new to the franchise might like it more.
Eh, nothing's really all that original when examined closely. Prometheus is one of my favorites of the year, and that matters more to me than stars on Amazon or a percentage on Rotten Tomatoes.

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That's funny, I liked it when I walked out of the theater, but upon further reflection , I liked it even more. Then I saw it a second time and realized I loved it! So now I've got it on preorder and soon I will own it!
Yes, it was exactly the same for me.
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Old 08-28-2012, 04:57 AM   #770
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That looks much scarier than the version we got. Though, as said before, this thing could look really silly and fake in motion. I can't wait to see it on the Blu-Ray.
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Old 08-28-2012, 04:59 AM   #771
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Eh, nothing's really all that original when examined closely. Prometheus is one of my favorites of the year, and that matters more to me than stars on Amazon or a percentage on Rotten Tomatoes.
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Old 08-28-2012, 06:49 AM   #772
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Rope of Silicon put up the special features and release date on their site, but I can't find a darn press release...It's not the type of site that would update their listing if they didn't have a press release first.
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Old 08-28-2012, 06:59 AM   #773
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Just found this. Originally in the scene of Fifield attacking the crew Fifield was rendered wih CGI and looked entirely different. Scott contemplated going this route if the practical makeup didnt work. The cgi Fifield looks far less zombie and more mutated alien. Anyways you can read about it at the link: http://www.slashfilm.com/three-cgi-i...-action-scene/

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Much much much better. This scene is on the bluray apparently (Fifield attacks, 5 min scene)
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Old 08-28-2012, 07:08 AM   #774
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This movie is a weird one. I appreciated various aspects of it more than I actually liked it, but that being said, I can't wait to see it again. That intro sequence was particularly cool.
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Eh, nothing's really all that original when examined closely.
There is a difference between exploring similar themes and simply recycling the exact same ideas from one movie to the next.

For example, the beauty and the beast is shared by disney's animated film of the same name, king kong, and as good as it gets. Yet, in each, the acting is inspired, the characters quite different in the details, and each film is powerfully moving in it's own way.

Now, let's take Prometheus.

Lone survivor: brunette heroine.

Genetically engineered alien, fake human corrupted by the corporation then helps heroine when it's body is destroyed, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.

IT IS THE EXACT SAME MOVIE. THERE IS NO VARIATION.
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IT IS THE EXACT SAME MOVIE. THERE IS NO VARIATION.
Well I have to disagree with that. Good thing film is subjective though.

Prometheus was one of my favorite films this summer, I loved the themes and how it demanded more from its viewers than a typical 'turn your brain off summer romp'
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I enjoyed it and have it on pre-order. I was a little disappointed after all the hype and also what I felt were misleading trailers, but I should have known it was never going to live up to expectations. Looking forward to my second viewing and just taking it for what it is rather than what I wanted it to be.

The strangest thing for me was actually how close the plot mirrored AVP. I'm not joking. I posted this before so apologies for posting it again:

[*]Scientists discover archaeological finds of great significance linking the ascent of man to a race of aliens who visited earth

[*]These discoveries are mirrored around the world

[*]Mr. Weyland bankrolls an expidition to discover the truth of these discoveries and the implications therein

[*]Weyland himself tags along and ultimately dies on the trip

[*]Scientists discover an alien building oduring their expidition, go inside and discover the makers have housed a different species of deadly alien in there that subsequently attacks the humans

[*]Several humans get lost and ultimately succumb to a bitter end inside this Alien building at the hands of this new species

[*]Inside the building, the humans discover wall markings/holograms that conveniently explain why the building is there, who made it and what the Alien backstory is

[*]Almost all characters are poorly fleshed out, the audience given little reason to care about them and they die one-by-one in either stupid, illogical or obvious ways

[*]One female protagonist survives in the end after a fight with both the Alien and the other species this alien has kept in the building

[*]One of the final scenes is an Alien spacecraft taking off and flying away into outer space

[*]The final scene is a "new" type of specie bursting from the chest of the original alien creature

[*]We are left with an ending to the film just begging for a sequel
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^ And when you pointed those out originally we were all quick to point out that AVP had those points in common with Alien.
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^ And when you pointed those out originally we were all quick to point out that AVP had those points in common with Alien.
But pretty much NONE of those points I list occur in Alien...
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Funny thing. When i first saw it i thought it was good. After the IMAX 3D showing me and my friend basically had a conversation about the movie that lasted about an hour. Basically creating theories about the plot and connections to the alien movies.(We've seen the Alien movies, but never really deepened into the mythos of the franchise.)

Now the last week i've been listening to the soundtrack(which has grown on me quite a bit) and the movie has suddenly become one of my top most-wanted releases of 2012 Didn't even need a second viewing Been basically playing back a lot of the movie in my head and its really grown on me since the theatrical release.
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