Prometheus (2012)

[ObiWanShinobi]

Originally Posted by MikeyHitchFan

Look, I don't agree with everything this person wrote either. However, if you scoll through the reviews on IMDB you will find many people with similar arguments. You will also find many like you who loved it. So, who's right? We all are.

Well depending on how similar, given that list of stuff, they would still be wrong on some accounts no matter how you slice it.

[Brad1963]

I liked the film for what it is. Considering the other garbage out there this film at least makes an effort to be intelligent and entertaining. My main issue is the lack of surprise or discovery. We pretty much know what they will find when they get there. Yes, there is a new set-up for where I guess the series will end up going; but I would have liked to have seen something new brought to the table.

Don’t get me wrong, I enjoyed myself. But I wish there was at least one moment that caught me off guard.

[Col. Zombie]

Originally Posted by MikeyHitchFan

Look, I don't agree with everything this person wrote either. However, if you scoll through the reviews on IMDB you will find many people with similar arguments. You will also find many like you who loved it. So, who's right? We all are.

I wasn't saying he was wrong. I was just saying that he's a nitpicky buffoon who obviously didn't like the movie becasue it didn't appeal to his troglodytic sensibilities.

[Banned User]

I think the fact this was early on tied to Alien set peoples expectations way too high. Alien redefined SciFi. They would have been better off never mentioning the connection to the film. Instead they tied it to Alien then reversed course and said it wasn't tied to Alien and have been waffling back and forth ever since.

People have made some valid points about the plot while others easily show their unrealistic hatred of the film. Even if it has many holes in the story there are still quite a few sequences that just plain kick ass

Actually I'm sure we could nitpick Alien and Aliens to death and find a lot of plot holes as well.

[tommyboy81]

So I wonder what "10.11.12" is if this is coming out on the 9th?

[oscarmerkx]

Originally Posted by tommyboy81

So I wonder what "10.11.12" is if this is coming out on the 9th?

http://www.whatis101112.com/

[oscarmerkx]

http://collider.com/ridley-scott-pro...erview/172202/

Here’s the exact quotes from Scott on what will be on the Blu-ray and the deleted scenes:

SCOTT: This is fundamentally the director’s cut. But there will be half an hour of stuff on the menu because people are so into films—how they’re made, how they’re set up, and the rejections in it. That’s why it’s fascinating. So this will all go on to the menu.

Well I’m curious about the deleted scenes. Specifically in this film, Noomi [Rapace] mentioned maybe there was a fight scene with her and an Engineer.

[Show spoiler]SCOTT: The Engineer fight scene was pretty good. It will definitely go on the menu. It won’t go on the long version. The problem about it is, while she gives as good as she gets with an axe (she’s very physical), he’s so big, for him to be clouted with a conventional weapon somehow diminished him. It’s subtle. It’s drama. I didn’t want to diminish him by having this person who has a weapon to be able to back him off. It minimized him. That’s why when he deals with people inside his cockpit, it’s over. Wham, wham, wham. Even the shot doesn’t mean anything. And so all she has time for is introducing him to the big boy inside the lab.

You’re going to do an extended cut on the Blu-ray/DVD. Is it a lot longer?

SCOTT: Twenty minutes.

There is lots more

[sukraj]

gunna buy this sucker.

[kristoffer]

I really hope the longer version helps with some of the continuity! Especially

[Show spoiler] the scene where Shaw doesn't tell Javik that she has just operated herself! Or the scene where the crew and the captain suddenly decides to sacrifice themself!

[UntilTheyFall]

Originally Posted by oscarmerkx

http://www.whatis101112.com/

What the... marketing for this one isn't over I guess?
Also, amazing movie. I loved it. Definitely day one for me.
The

[Show spoiler]surgery scene

was the first time in awhile I actually said 'holy shit' out loud in a theater.

[yellowcakeuf6]

Where did all the animal DNA come from?

[thelittleprince]

Originally Posted by yellowcakeuf6

Where did all the animal DNA come from?

Noah's Ark

Day 1 for me! Looking forward to the director's cut!

[joenostalgia23]

I liked it quite a bit. There were a few plot holes, I thought the pacing was a bit off, and Charlize Theron's character was totally wasted. Also the side characters were just stupid(though the same could be said for Alien and Aliens)

But otherwise, I really liked Rapace and Fassbender, the cinematography was stunning(and it looked fantastic in 3D). I loved the designs and the effects work was very well done. I even thought the music was good.
And I know people disliked how so many questions were left completely unanswered, but I'm pretty sure that was the point. No answer would ever be good enough. But the questions they gave to the audience were great for a discussion. I haven't spent so long posing and debating theories about a film's story with friends for a LONG time.

I look really forward to a sequel, and the Blu-ray.

I just hope that:
1. There's an Extended Cut
2. The 3D version is in 1.78:1 like it was in IMAX.

[TheCollector]

Originally Posted by MikeyHitchFan

Here's a good examination of the 'plot holes' from a reviewer on IMDB:

***Contains SPOILERS!!***


PROMETHEUS Plot holes AND IRRITATIONS ***SPOILERS***

1. The dreams sequence. David can watch Shaw's dreams. Amazingly this technology also cuts from scene to scene like a movie camera...Please. No one dreams like that.

2. How did they randomly find the temple so quick? This is an entire planet surface!

3. Why was the landing so soft and easy?

4. Why does Fifield start screaming at Shaw like that? Calm down mate..jeez..And later on with an Alien cobra he is cool as ice.

5. Why does that moron Buddy Holly scientist try and touch the cobra alien? not once....not twice...but 3 TIMES!!!

6. Why on earth would a scientist remove their helmets in a possibly infected temple? I am just a civilian and even I understand the concept of VIRUS CONTAMINATION ON AN ALIEN FRIGGIN PLANET. They then have the cheek to talk about Shaw's strict quarantine fail-safe procedures...please

7. What does this Black Goo do exactly? Accelerate worm growth? Infect crew members? Cause pregnancies? Create life? Pick one and stick to it please

8. Why does Ford straight away start giving the head electricity for kicks? Do they not have procedures? What is this fun with Frankenstein?

9. Why does the head explode?

10. Why are the medical staff so damn careless with a possibly disease ridden and bacteria infested decapitated head? I swear they didn't even wear plastic gloves.

11. How did Shaw know the Jockey was heading to Earth to destroy it? Pretty big assumption from a couple of punches thrown.

12. How does David know the Space Jockey is heading to kill Shaw on the Medical Bay?

13. How does Shaw know her baby will attack the Jockey?

14. i was really amazed that Shaw has this 'baby' but fails to mention the horrific and super extraordinary situation she had just been through. ''oh hey guys, ha ha, nearly forgot. FYI, you won't believe what just happened to me on the way here''....''i just gave birth to an alien..'' ''yeah, i know CRAZY right, considering i had sex only 10 BLOODY HRS AGO!!''

15. -The whole Vickers' Star Wars 'Father' line...

16. -The 'bet' between the co-pilots was cringe-worthy

17. HUGE ONE…How the hell does Shaw walk after abdominal surgery? If abdominal muscle is cut you can NOT walk, the muscle needs to be sewn back…But no, a few staples and she is good to go…

18. Why does the tentacle creature have tentacles from the evil Planet X?

19. Why do the space jockeys allow any old tramp to walk in an use their security systems?

20. Why does the space jockey want to kill, kill and kill…You'd think an advanced race would be a little civilised?

21. What was the point of Guy Pearce as Weyland? Why was he even there? So he just assumed this temple would contain a fountain of life…..right….I guess he 'chose to believe' too…f**k me…

Honestly there are so many more I can't even write them all…But this movie has more plot-holes than the Iraqi Navy

Here's some of mine:

22. Why hire Guy Pearce and put him in bad old man makeup? Aren't there real old men actors?

23. Vickers and Capt go have sex and leave no one on the bridge while a sand storm rages and two of the crew is stuck in the cave.

24. Vickers killed by falling ship when if she just run SIDEWAYS a few feet it would've missed her.

25. Vickers auto-med machine is for men only? Hmmmm..it's for her, in her quarters, yet for men only? WTF?

26. If the guys were lost in the caves, why didn't they radio for help? And when they returned after getting attacked, the crew just opens the door, not knowing who it is.

Thinking up most of these questions probably took more thought than just watching the movie and figuring out the answers! Most of these are so silly, that if I wanted to sit around and nit pick, I could come up with questions like this after EVERY MOVIE EVER MADE!

[K i r a]

Originally Posted by MikeyHitchFan

I can appreciate all the replies and answers, but you'll never convince me that some of these things were not the result of sheer laziness on the part of the filmmakers. As Hitchcock use to call them "our friends, the plausibles". Yes, a longer cut would likely do better to explain a few things, and yes I'm willing to forgive some things, especially in sci-fi, that may not make sense. I can forgive little niggly things here and there...it's a movie after all.

I think if someone else had made this, and not Ridley Scott, you'd be a little harder on the film as it is. That's what pisses me off the most...he should care more about getting these kinds of things right after all this time and sequels, etc. I really wanted to like this film more than I did. I liked it more than others I've talked to - they hated it! And some loved it, too. I love 2001, which is very hard to follow and too boring for some people.

+1, although I would say it's the script that fell flat, not direction, despite Scott having chosen them and possibly working with them.

[mikesncc1701]

Originally Posted by joenostalgia23

I just hope that:
1. There's an Extended Cut
2. The 3D version is in 1.78:1 like it was in IMAX.

That was the deal breaker for me. No way was I going to sit through a cropped picture.

[WorkShed]

Originally Posted by mikesncc1701

That was the deal breaker for me. No way was I going to sit through a cropped picture.

You sure it wasn't open matte?

[McCrutchy]

Originally Posted by WorkShed

You sure it wasn't open matte?

Indeed. I know I've seen scope films in IMAX before and the ratio was maintained (with huge black bars), so I'm assuming the image is intentionally re-framed to 1.78:1 for IMAX 3D like I heard IMAX 3D Avatar was.

[BaronVH]

I liked it quite a bit. The way I see it, the first alien was a horror movie, Aliens was action, and this was sci-fi. The only issue I have is that the aliens that created life all look like Tim Tebow. Troubling.

[jceperley]

Originally Posted by McCrutchy

Indeed. I know I've seen scope films in IMAX before and the ratio was maintained (with huge black bars), so I'm assuming the image is intentionally re-framed to 1.78:1 for IMAX 3D like I heard IMAX 3D Avatar was.

The image was simply extended on the top and bottom. Saw the film in digital IMAX and I was comparing (from memory) the scope version we're playing at the theatre where I work, and that seems to be the case.

Best case example is the whenever it went to the characters POV, there's a technical readout that at the top and bottom. The scope version has the text almost at the very top of the frame, but the IMAX version has plenty of image above and below. There's also a few shots I've seen where it appears the image is cropped in the scope version. Note that I have not seen the entire film in scope yet, but I prefer the flat aspect for the Blu-ray (although I think it's entirely possibly that we'll get a 2.40:1 2D version with a 1.78:1 3D version).