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Old 09-22-2014, 06:49 PM   #4041
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And some of you guys think you’re diehard physical media collectors. Well… http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/17/bu...sic-.html?_r=5
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Old 09-22-2014, 07:09 PM   #4042
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360p max? LAME! Should be at least 1080p!

Even more lame? Having to open Google Chrome to post this.
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Old 09-23-2014, 12:33 AM   #4043
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Can you post the article? NYT won't let me see it.
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Old 09-23-2014, 09:44 AM   #4044
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Update from last April, in which I emphasized the word “sell”…https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...ri#post9072668



For, news is Arri ‘officially’ will rent ‘the 65’…scroll down to p.7 to be pumped up by Franz - http://www.fdtimes.com/pdfs/issues/6...65v6.0-150.pdf



Red fanboys and blogging camera editors in general will have a field day analyzing this cutting edge camera news, if they haven’t already.

I heard about the Alexa 65 just yesterday. A sensor that size combined with premium glass and the Alexa's already impressive dynamic range = awesomeness. Still, I can see why it's rental only, given how versatile and popular the standard Alexa is anyway and how 2K is still the finish of choice for most features. It'll be great for stuff like VFX plates to begin with, but I think it'll be a good long while before someone shoots a feature length film on it.
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Old 09-23-2014, 01:46 PM   #4045
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If all things go as planned, the ARRI Alexa 65 has all the potential to beat the IMAX Phantom 65 Gold 3D camera in terms of picture quality.

The Alexa 65 has a bigger sensor. 54.12x25.58 vs 51.2x28.8
higher dynamic range. 14+ stops vs 10+ stops.
And resolution. 6560x3102 vs 4096x2440.

Of course, IMAX has developed a bunch of lenses specially for 3D cinematography.
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Old 09-23-2014, 03:36 PM   #4046
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360p max? LAME! Should be at least 1080p!
So judgmental Peter, for such a cute comedic clip showing reactions from male TV consumers in China. I think you’re devoting too much attention to critically examining the details of the imagery there and not enough to allowing your primal instincts to prevail with or without the aid of E.D. meds. The following clip is what?, < 300p, but it also clearly makes the point, i.e. be careful of dem elevator doors!

- perhaps NSFW

Seriously, you want better detail, like YUV 4:4:4 color sampling, 10 bits per sample - from the folks at 交大...there’s some real enviable ‘wood’ in the last sample - http://medialab.sjtu.edu.cn/web4k/index.html

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Old 09-23-2014, 03:44 PM   #4047
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Can you post the article? NYT won't let me see it.
Sure.

CD-Loving Japan Resists Move to Online Music
By BEN SISARIO SEPT. 16, 2014

TOKYO — Around the world, the music business has shifted toward downloads and streaming. But in Japan, the compact disc is still king.
On a drizzly Sunday afternoon recently, Tower Records’ nine-level flagship store here was packed with customers like Kimiaki Koinuma. A 23-year-old engineer in a Dee Dee Ramone T-shirt, Mr. Koinuma said that, unlike most men his age around the world, he spends little time with digital services and prefers his music on disc.

“I buy around three CDs a month,” he said, showing off a haul of six new albums, including the Rolling Stones’ classic “Exile on Main St.” and an assortment of the latest Japanese pop hits.

Japan may be one of the world’s perennial early adopters of new technologies, but its continuing attachment to the CD puts it sharply at odds with the rest of the global music industry. While CD sales are falling worldwide, including in Japan, they still account for about 85 percent of sales here, compared with as little as 20 percent in some countries, like Sweden, where online streaming is dominant.

“Japan is utterly, totally unique,” said Lucian Grainge, the chairman of the Universal Music Group, the world’s largest music conglomerate.
That uniqueness has the rest of the music business worried. Despite its robust CD market, sales in Japan — the world’s second-largest music market, after the United States — have been sliding for a decade, and last year they dropped 17 percent, dragging worldwide results down 3.9 percent.

Digital sales — rising in every other top market — are quickly eroding in Japan, going from almost $1 billion in 2009 to just $400 million last year, according to the Recording Industry Association of Japan.

Turning Japan around has become a priority for the global music business, which has struggled to regain its footing after losing about half its value since 2000, when digital technology began to disrupt the album-based business model.

But accomplishing change has been difficult, according to analysts and music executives in Japan and the West, in part because of a protectionist business climate in Japan that still views the digital business with suspicion.

Streaming music services like Spotify and Rdio, widely seen as the industry’s best new hope for new revenue, have stalled in efforts to enter Japan. Spotify, the biggest such player, has been stuck for two years in licensing negotiations with music companies in Japan, where homegrown pop idols by far outsell Western acts.

Ken Parks, Spotify’s chief content officer, said he was optimistic about his company’s prospects, and noted that the negotiating process was slow wherever it went. Spotify, which has more than 10 million customers in 57 markets around the world, negotiated with labels for almost two years before it arrived in the United States in 2011, for example.

“When the decision makers finally feel that the heat is intense enough that they have to do something different, they will,” Mr. Parks said. “I think we are approaching that moment in Japan.”

Others have doubts, pointing to the Japanese market’s devotion to the CD, which remains a primary source of revenue for record labels in the country, and an indispensable promotional tool.

Peculiarities of Japan’s business climate have shaped its attachment to the CD, but cultural factors may also be at play, like Japanese consumers’ love for collectible goods. Greatest hits albums, for example, do particularly well in Japan, perhaps because of the elaborate, artist-focused packaging. The hugely popular girl groupAKB48 pioneered the sale of CDs containing tickets that can be redeemed for access to live events — a strategy credited with propping up CD sales, because it can lead the biggest fans to buy multiple copies of an album.

Tower Records closed its 89 American outlets in 2006, but the Japanese branch of the chain — controlled by NTT DoCoMo, Japan’s largest phone carrier — still has 85 outlets, doing $500 million in business a year.
At Tower’s flagship store, in the heart of the skyscraper-lined shopping district of Shibuya, a group of preteen girls called Kokepiyo performed for fans and autographed CDs one afternoon last month, while their mother-managers watched protectively. Outside, an 18-year-old student who gave her name as Yuria had come to Tower to see her favorite band, the Lotus. She carried a bag full of merchandise she had bought at the store, and said that she frequently buys multiple collectible copies of CDs.

“Each store has its own freebies to give away to sell more CDs,” Yuria said. “So it all depends on how good they are.”

In the United States, digital sales have long since overtaken physical ones. But CDs still account for 41 percent of the $15 billion recorded music market worldwide, and, in addition to Japan, some big markets like Germany remain reliant on CD sales. That attachment worries some analysts, who contend that if those countries do not embrace online music, an inevitable decline in CD sales will further damage the industry.
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Old 09-23-2014, 03:46 PM   #4048
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A sensor that size combined with premium glass and the Alexa's already impressive dynamic range = awesomeness. Still, I can see why it's rental only, given how versatile and popular the standard Alexa is anyway and how 2K is still the finish of choice for most features. It'll be great for stuff like VFX plates to begin with, but I think it'll be a good long while before someone shoots a feature length film on it.
I think this camera was made for Michael Bay . Of course, the news of the ‘official’ announcement probably gave heartburn to all post house supervisors just thinking about the data load involved with the camera’s use.

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Old 09-23-2014, 03:53 PM   #4049
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I heard about the Alexa 65 just yesterday.
Perhaps I should have bolded the phrase 'not a rumor' as well as emphasizing the words "not sell” from last April's revelation…https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...ri#post9072668

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Old 09-24-2014, 12:40 PM   #4050
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If the Alexa 65 is anything like the Sony F65, I will be very happy. The current Alexa lineup already gives very good digital images so increasing the sensor size should make for a good camera. Hopefully this will reduce the number of RED movies being made. I have yet to see one that doesn't have the glossy, candy-coated digital look that I tire of.
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Old 09-24-2014, 05:43 PM   #4051
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Given recent 4K broadcast news (http://www.satellitetoday.com/region...sts-this-year/ ), for a momentary counterbalance to Arri cinema camera development, I think it worthy to give a humble camera plug to little ol’ Grass Valley because of their camera’s ability for 4K native B4 lens support, which will be good for sports coverage -

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Old 09-24-2014, 10:38 PM   #4052
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F1 (Hollywood historical, Niki Lauda )…


And testing F1 for future 4K delivery
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Old 09-24-2014, 10:52 PM   #4053
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Back again to celebrate its 75th anniversary -
http://www.fathomevents.com/event/go...th-anniversary

4K DCPs (3 of them to be precise, for the entire fathom event showings)

Image Format: 4K flat (3996 x 2160). Note to those pixel police, that’s four shy of “true” 4K.
Audio Format: 5.1

DCP#1 – includes the program prior to showtime [Fathom Intro / Walk In (30m)]
DCP#2 - Robert Osborne Greeting to -> intermission (1 h:50m:54s)
DCP#3 - Music intro over dark screen before remainder of feature to -> ending (2h:4m:54s)

For Blu-ray collectors –
On Sept. 30, Warner Bros. Home Entertainment will release a Gone With the Wind 75th Anniversary Ultimate Collector’s Edition on Blu-ray™ and Digital HD with UltraViolet. It will be fittingly presented in limited and numbered sets, with new collectible packaging, new enhanced content and new collectible memorabilia. The memorabilia includes a replica of Rhett Butler’s handkerchief and a music box paperweight playing Tara’s theme with an image on top of the Rhett-Scarlett kiss. Also included is a 36-page companion booklet featuring a look at the immortal style of Gone With the Wind, written by New York fashion designer and Project Runway fan favorite Austin Scarlett, whose signature look reflects the romantic elegance of the Gone With the Wind era. The new special features include footage of Clark Gable and Vivien Leigh attending the original movie premiere in Atlanta and Old South/New South, a journey through today's South, revisiting the real-life locations depicted to see how the world of the Old South continues to inform life in the New South’s cosmopolitan world.
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Old 09-25-2014, 02:56 AM   #4054
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An article has been posted on Display Central that talks a bit about using Y"u'v' for HDR video. I do wonder though if the idea is to replace YCbCr than that could be done with YCoCg. YCoCg gives better quality, was designed for real time graphics (it only requires integer additions and shift operations), and has been around for several years.
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Old 09-25-2014, 05:58 AM   #4055
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On Sept. 30, Warner Bros. Home Entertainment will release a Gone With the Wind 75th Anniversary Ultimate Collector’s Edition on Blu-ray™
With 4K cinema screenings coming, my guess is GWTW on 4KBD is extremely likely. Current BD looks really good, so I'll have to hold out until then
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If all things go as planned, the ARRI Alexa 65 has all the potential to beat the IMAX Phantom 65 Gold 3D camera in terms of picture quality.

The Alexa 65 has a bigger sensor. 54.12x25.58 vs 51.2x28.8
higher dynamic range. 14+ stops vs 10+ stops.
And resolution. 6560x3102 vs 4096x2440.

Of course, IMAX has developed a bunch of lenses specially for 3D cinematography.
Alexa 65 is going to dominate the film industry the same way the Alexa dominates the TV industry.

I'm guessing that it's still a rolling shutter, but the Alexa has the damn finest image ever.
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Old 09-25-2014, 05:29 PM   #4057
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Alexa 65 is going to dominate the film industry...
I’ll say one thing, there certainly appears to be a lot of Dominatrixes out there having the name Alexa.
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Old 09-25-2014, 05:42 PM   #4058
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An article has been posted on Display Central that talks a bit about using Y"u'v' for HDR video...
Well hallelujah, at least one blogger picked up on that paper presented at IBC. Yeah, for new readers just joining the thread, I gave an earlier heads-up to any IBC attendees or reporter types back in early August as to that presentation.…https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...es#post9538282

But it’s apparent that the Display Cental blogger misunderstood the benefits of their Y"u'v' signal proposal as I tried to explain/illustrate in as simple terms as possible about a week ago - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...de#post9754213

As to a motion picture that will be truly “made” (captured and finished) in HDR, many insiders are looking forward to the world premiere of Emma - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...ma#post9737938 especially given the pedigree of the filmmakers… https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...xr#post9474610

P.S.
I wonder if anyone from Display Central did any reporting on “High Frame Rate Television: Sampling Theory, the Human Visual System, and why the Nyquist-Shannon Theorem doesn’t Apply” presented by the lady from the BBC at IBC2014?

Interesting theory also.

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Old 09-26-2014, 11:18 PM   #4059
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Attention to fellow soccer fanatic PeterTHX...“Saturday’s action finishes with a cracker as Arsenal and Tottenham square off in the North London derby (Watch live, 12:30 p.m. ET on NBCSN)” that means 9:30 A.M. our time, Pete….
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Yo locals, another heads-up. LAPPG event for Gone Girl on Oct. 8th in Santa Monica.

Only $5. at the door…https://www.eventbrite.com/e/post-wo...ts-13177312697

Have a good weekend folks.
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