4K Movies Releases

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by raygendreau

That doesn't detract from his subjective comparison of the two Star Wars showings. No clear winner for him.

I saw both formats in the same day, clear winner was AMC Prime Dolby Cinema. Better picture, better sound.

[eriaur]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

eriaur, a somewhat amusing aside to the link is the bit about using ACES when RED (the acquisition device for Little Crushes) has a long history of not being ACES friendly.

Looks like at least one Red user has ignored RED’s in house color scientist.

On The Wave they changed from Arri Alexa to Red Epic Dragon just before the shooting began. (Dragon was just released) Arri Alexa is the DOP's favorite camera, but they chose the Dragon because it was better suited for the production (with a lot of low light situations):
http://rushprint.no/2015/09/bolgen-e...mp-mot-klokka/
http://www.filmlight.ltd.uk/customer..._ozkilicci.php

[Desk.]

It's great to see the new titles being announced from Warner Bros, but with Fury Road, San Andreas, Pacific Rim and Man of Steel all now announced it does rather fuel the existing quandary for 3D fans.

As it is, if you want a 3D version of the film as well as 4K, you'll have no option but to double dip.

I take it there's no prospect of resolving this in the 4K releases, other than to include a third, 3D disk in the package, presumably bumping up the price?

It's interesting that the 4K blus are going to also include 1080p blus, as this is surely going to bump up costs to the consumer as it is?

To be honest, I'm surprised that the new 4K blus are coming with 1080p versions bundled in with them.

I can understand the desire to encourage non-4K display owners to future-proof themselves, but surely it's going to make these new releases even more costly in comparison with 1080p blu-ray equivalents?

If the 4K disks are going to be region free, what about the 1080p blus? Will they just be the standard, existing region-coded titles lumped into the case alongside them?

Finally, does anyone know if this 'early in 2016' 4K UHD blu-ray launch is going to be global, or if it'll start first in the likes of North America, South Korea and Japan before gradually reaching the rest of the world?

Desk

[fitprod]

Originally Posted by Desk.

As it is, if you want a 3D version of the film as well as 4K, you'll have no option but to double dip.

I take it there's no prospect of resolving this in the 4K releases, other than to include a third, 3D disk in the package, presumably bumping up the price?

It's interesting that the 4K blus are going to also include 1080p blus, as this is surely going to bump up costs to the consumer as it is?

To be honest, I'm surprised that the new 4K blus are coming with 1080p versions bundled in with them.

Not a big deal for me, regarding the 3D aspect, but it sucks for 3D enthusiasts*. There's no way they could launch UHD without the standard Blu-ray included. Honestly in real world pricing, it will add about $5 - $10 dollars to the purchase price.

It will just piss off the people that believe they should be getting movies for $10 or less... And that's not the market they will be, or should be, aiming at out of the blocks.

The opportunity to own a movie isn't an entitlement...

fitprod

*Now if Fox is going only release full supplements with The Martian 3D disc, as they have done with Ridley Scott's Prometheus and Exodus: Gods and Kings, I'll be annoyed. Especially since I know the supplements have been produced in 4K. - Let's hope they're not that stupid.

[Dubstar]

Originally Posted by ray0414

So we have the 1st launch titles from sony, fox and now warner brothers. Any guesses/hopes from univeral/disney/paramount?

Hoping for jurassic world and maybe furious 7 from universal. Both of those were visually top notch and hdr treatment would really put those into elite status despite the 2k master, filmed with alot of 4k cameras though.

the reasoning of the 2K mastering from Universal for 'Jurassic World' was for the 3D conversion which downgraded the image in my opinion, since it was shot in both in 35mm and 65mm - this was one title that should have gone out as 4K.

I'd be a smart and inventive move on Universal's part to also remix these in either Dolby Atmos or DTS-X for both of those movies.

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as other's have pointed out, I'm in the 'please include the 3D version in the UHD release' camp too ... double dipping is annoying AND expensive.

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by Adrian Wright

Warners first UHD BD Titles announced :

http://www.broadwayworld.com/bwwtv/a...rings-20151229

Sony needs to save us from this 2k nightmare

[XJF]

Forgive the random question, but is anyone expecting release/pricing info from CES?

[Geoff D]

I hope so, I don't think the format can dilly dally any longer. It needs the full fat launch and it needs it now.

[bailey1987]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

I hope so, I don't think the format can dilly dally any longer. It needs the full fat launch and it needs it now.

I agree.

As for 3D I am more concerned about whether or not immersive audio is included or not. I can remember buying Superman Returns on Blu-ray it only had Dolby Digital 5.1 surround sound, as it was a new title I didn't see them double dipping too soon so I got a copy, unfortunately or fortunately depending on how you look at it Warner Bros. released a Dolby True HD release not long after, I was furious to begin with but got over it as I was glad to have the film in Dolby True HD. I can see the like of Man of Steel only having a standard Dolby True HD track to being with as was the case with Superman Returns a Dolby ATMOS track will follow shortly after.

As a result of this I will only be buying titles that have either a Dolby ATMOS sound track or a DTS: X track.

Back to 3D I personally think it is a forgone conclusion that it will happen but like with Blu-ray it will be a long time coming and it will require a new player. It's not too much of a problem for me as I only really want Friday the 13th Part 3 in 3D, Jaws 3D and Amityville 3D, neither Jaws 3D or Friday the 13th part 3 in 3D seem to have a snowballs chance in hell of seeing a 3D release Jaws 3 has all long to see a standard release.

As for the full details on Ultra HD Blu-ray I think the wait will be completely over at CES 2016.

[XJF]

Originally Posted by bailey1987

Back to 3D I personally think it is a forgone conclusion that it will happen but like with Blu-ray it will be a long time coming and it will require a new player. It's not too much of a problem for me as I only really want Friday the 13th Part 3 in 3D, Jaws 3D and Amityville 3D, neither Jaws 3D or Friday the 13th part 3 in 3D seem to have a snowballs chance in hell of seeing a 3D release Jaws 3 has all long to see a standard release.

As for the full details on Ultra HD Blu-ray I think the wait will be completely over at CES 2016.

I don't get the the whole 3d thing. My last 2 Sony's have been 3d (FHD 70" and UHD 65"), and I've never legitimately watched a full movie in 3d at my HT. I've watched parts of TANGLED, 300-2, Avengers, Inside Out, Man of Steel just to check it out, but after 15-ish minutes I always go to 2D to fully watch it. The 3D thing never grew on me :-(

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by bailey1987

As for 3D I am more concerned about whether or not immersive audio is included or not. I can remember buying Superman Returns on Blu-ray it only had Dolby Digital 5.1 surround sound, as it was a new title I didn't see them double dipping too soon so I got a copy, unfortunately or fortunately depending on how you look at it Warner Bros. released a Dolby True HD release not long after, I was furious to begin with but got over it as I was glad to have the film in Dolby True HD. I can see the like of Man of Steel only having a standard Dolby True HD track to being with as was the case with Superman Returns a Dolby ATMOS track will follow shortly after.

As a result of this I will only be buying titles that have either a Dolby ATMOS sound track or a DTS: X track.

What if they weren't Atmos to begin with?


Man of Steel is going to be a launch title and it's going to be Atmos - Warner's Vudu UHD version is Atmos so I don't see the UHD-BD going backwards on that.

[jono3000]

Originally Posted by bailey1987

It's not too much of a problem for me as I only really want Friday the 13th Part 3 in 3D, Jaws 3D and Amityville 3D, neither Jaws 3D or Friday the 13th part 3 in 3D seem to have a snowballs chance in hell of seeing a 3D release Jaws 3 has all long to see a standard release.

Amityville 3D is already released as part of the trilogy set

[Opips3]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

What if they weren't Atmos to begin with?


Man of Steel is going to be a launch title and it's going to be Atmos - Warner's Vudu UHD version is Atmos so I don't see the UHD-BD going backwards on that.

okay. you'll buy it for $30?? Man of Steel is 2K Mastered.

I wait for Batman Vs Superman: Dawn of Justic is 65mm film can fit on UHD

[m3racer123]

Originally Posted by Desk.

Finally, does anyone know if this 'early in 2016' 4K UHD blu-ray launch is going to be global, or if it'll start first in the likes of North America, South Korea and Japan before gradually reaching the rest of the world?

I'd like to know if it's launching in the UK early next year.

[Adrian Wright]

Originally Posted by dvdmike

Sony needs to save us from this 2k nightmare

What about the HDR though Mike

[Adrian Wright]

Originally Posted by Opips3

okay. you'll buy it for $30?? Man of Steel is 2K Mastered.

I wait for Batman Vs Superman: Dawn of Justic is 65mm film can fit on UHD

If they have HDR, Wide Colour Gamut and Atmos I will be all over these like a tramp on chips

[Pieter V]

Originally Posted by Opips3

okay. you'll buy it for $30?? Man of Steel is 2K Mastered.

I wait for Batman Vs Superman: Dawn of Justic is 65mm film can fit on UHD

Man of Steel was shot on film.

[Opips3]

Originally Posted by Pieter V

Man of Steel was shot on film.

I've ordered $7.97 BDs from Amazon.ca

[Pieter V]

Originally Posted by Opips3

I've ordered $7.97 BDs from Amazon.ca

[Opips3]

Originally Posted by Adrian Wright

If they have HDR, Wide Colour Gamut and Atmos I will be all over these like a tramp on chips

your HDTV can do it on brighter color. maybe it not working...problem on black to grey.