4K Blu-ray Confirmed, Coming in

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by dvdmike

Does it run at 540p...

[raygendreau]

This panel discussion link was posted about two weeks ago in the 4K Release thread by Penton.

http://link.brightcove.com/services/...=4173329641001

Hanno Basse (Fox), Chairman of the UHD Alliance contributed a lot to the discussion.

What I found most interesting were the comments about the need to educate the HE consumer on the fragmented offers potentially available with Ultra HD (UHD BR, + HDR, + WCG, + HFR, BD, DVD, digital etc.).

Basse’s approach made the most sense: Give the consumer one choice with “everything on it”.

I have read that the new UHD players will down convert the UHD BR based on the capability of connected HT devices, including mobile devices accessed through the Digital Bridge. So all the HE consumer will have to do is look for players and UHD BRs with the UHD Alliance Logo and they are set regardless of their equipment capability.

There is still the question of how or if the content providers will monetize the various elements of UHD such as HDR (all panel members were most excited by HDR with WCG mentioned second)

My guess is they won’t monitize at roll out, but will when/ if HE consumers attribute a high value to one or more of the elements. So, what would you be willing to pay for HDR or WCG or HFR or Digital Bridge based on your current knowledge of those features?

[Geoff D]

Seeing as I can't use WCG or HDR on my 4K TV and I'm not too bothered about HFR and DB my enthusiasm for UHD BD is dwindling by the day.

[Dylan34]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Seeing as I can't use WCG or HDR on my 4K TV and I'm not too bothered about HFR and DB my enthusiasm for UHD BD is dwindling by the day.

What 4K tv do you have Geoff, if you don't mind me asking?

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Seeing as I can't use WCG or HDR on my 4K TV and I'm not too bothered about HFR and DB my enthusiasm for UHD BD is dwindling by the day.

?


It's still a true 4K source, enhanced compression & color. Our TV has enhanced dynamic range, even if it isn't true HDR.


I'm still excited.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Dylan34

What 4K tv do you have Geoff, if you don't mind me asking?

Sony 55X9005B.

Pete, I'm rapidly losing interest, what can I say? I certainly won't be jumping straight in like I said I was gonna do, I'll be waiting for proper analyses of the downconversions from WCG and HDR. Yes, I know that it'll work at a basic level on my TV but it's got to be done accurately or I'm steering well clear. And I don't wanna pay inflated launch prices and have to jump through online authentication hoops for something that I can only glean the basic layer of playback from. (I don't mind authentication, as I've said before, but the trade-off is less appealing when I'm missing out on a lot of the quality improvements which are what's resulting in UHD BD being protected so zealously in the first place.)

[bailey1987]

Here's something: https://www.productsandservices.bt.c...n_FURL_ultrahd

http://www.engadget.com/2015/06/09/b...ox-4k-channel/

4K football from BT this autumn.

It says the first Ultra HD match is in August, two months away.

[bailey1987]

I have just checked the BDA'S website on this page http://us.blu-raydisc.com/index.php down in the bottom left corner there is an add for various Blu-ray's let the scroll past and eventually a link for Ultra HD Blu-ray appears, it doesn't seem to be clickable for me, can any body else get it to work?

[Paul.R.S]

Originally Posted by bailey1987

I have just checked the BDA'S website on this page http://us.blu-raydisc.com/index.php down in the bottom left corner there is an add for various Blu-ray's let the scroll past and eventually a link for Ultra HD Blu-ray appears, it doesn't seem to be clickable for me, can any body else get it to work?

Nothing happened when I clicked the UHD BD image. But that's the case for all of the supposedly clickable images in that sequence (3D BD, Jurassic Park, etc.). The one on the opposite side of the page works though ("New and Upcoming Releases"). Chrome version 42.0.2311.135 (64-bit) here.

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by bailey1987

I have just checked the BDA'S website on this page http://us.blu-raydisc.com/index.php down in the bottom left corner there is an add for various Blu-ray's let the scroll past and eventually a link for Ultra HD Blu-ray appears, it doesn't seem to be clickable for me, can any body else get it to work?

You can add Blu-rays?

[bailey1987]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

You can add Blu-rays?

Advert

[raygendreau]

Originally Posted by bailey1987

I have just checked the BDA'S website on this page http://us.blu-raydisc.com/index.php down in the bottom left corner there is an add for various Blu-ray's let the scroll past and eventually a link for Ultra HD Blu-ray appears, it doesn't seem to be clickable for me, can any body else get it to work?

It is a link to the May 12 news release: http://us.blu-raydisc.com/pdfs/BDA_C...Spec_Final.pdf

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by bailey1987

Advert

Oh.

AD (no extra D).

[reanimator]

well thank goodness we got that typo cleared up

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by bailey1987

Here's something: https://www.productsandservices.bt.c...n_FURL_ultrahd

http://www.engadget.com/2015/06/09/b...ox-4k-channel/

4K football from BT this autumn.

It says the first Ultra HD match is in August, two months away.

Did you say 4K football? Un momento por favor.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by reanimator

well thank goodness we got that typo cleared up

There’s always Peter’s fave team from L.A. as demoed here.…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Qff...utu.be&t=0m51s

[smithd77]

Does anyone have any info on the low level changes to the disc. Ex: will it still be UDF 2.5? Will they keep java?

[Geoff D]

New interview with Ron Martin of the BDA: http://www.insideci.co.uk/articles/i...and-ready.aspx

There's nothing too earth shattering in there for seasoned followers of these Tech forums, but it's good to hear the rationale for 4:2:0, no 4K 3D etc.

[FilmFreakosaurus]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

New interview with Ron Martin of the BDA: http://www.insideci.co.uk/articles/i...and-ready.aspx

There's nothing too earth shattering in there for seasoned followers of these Tech forums, but it's good to hear the rationale for 4:2:0, no 4K 3D etc.

They're still trying to differentiate between pro grade and consumer grade video.

However, outside of a lab and an engineer, who is really going to see the pro grade masters unless consumer product really improves? Even the theatrical DCP's are not the same grade.

[Geoff D]

It's not about that. The 4:2:0 point is important to reiterate because of all the reams of bullshit on the internet about 4:4:4 4K60 support (or lack thereof) on a lot of 4K sets with the 10.2 Gb/s chipsets. Unless someone is a hardcore computer nut then it simply won't matter all that much, but people still treat it like the holy grail even if they don't know what it actually means and how it benefits them. Heck, even if UHD BD had adopted 4:2:2 or 4:4:4 then those older 4K TVs would still be fine reproducing that content @ 24p, which is of course the fps that the overwhelming majority of movies ever made were shot at.

You're right that DCP's aren't the same as the uncompressed masters, but they're still pretty darned tasty with their intraframe compression and 12-bit XYZ colour container. I don't think UHD BD is quite at that stage...