4K Blu-ray Confirmed, Coming in

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

50hz support isn't mandatory for UHD BD though (or indeed US/JP TVs), it's still for designated territories only so I can't see it being released in a manner which would exclude 60Hz countries, chief among them the Yoo-nited States.

even though I don't think it will happen (I think it is generally a bad idea and don't get why someone would want to watch a sped up version of a film and the reason 24/30/60 are global standards), I disagree with you on this. Distribution rights of films are by country, it would be easy for WB/NL UK to distribute it as a 50p film while WB/NL US distributes it as 24P

Besides, one thing which keeps getting missed out in this discussion is that this implementation of 48fps was intended to support the 3D presentation first and foremost.

not sure what you mean by that.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by Falaskan

At least they're backwards compatible. I don't plan on rebuying any movies I already own unless Star Wars or LOTR is released in 4K. Of course, I always said the same about upgrading to blu...lol

I don't know if I was saying it but I was definitely thinking the same thing before the BD launch. So at this point I am not even thinking it. My opinion is I will wait and see.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by gregmasciola

Seriously, though, everyone's collection has already depreciated. It starts to as soon as you buy a movie. There are a bunch of movies I paid $20-$25 for that I could get for less than $10 today. So I don't think anyone cares about their collection depreciating. I buy movies so I can watch them, not so I can stare at them and wonder how much money they're worth.

exactly

[David M]

Originally Posted by Falaskan

It's the popular answer right now. I'm sure they all will soon enough.

It's always the same. Usually there are a few stages, annoyance that the current state of the art won't always be the state of the art, threats to boycott, questions as to what the point is anyway.

All of it fades away when the equipment becomes affordable. We saw it with 1080p displays ("720 is fine"), we saw it with BD, we even saw it with DVD.

[Gamma_Winstead]

Originally Posted by Falaskan

At least they're backwards compatible. I don't plan on rebuying any movies I already own unless Star Wars or LOTR is released in 4K. Of course, I always said the same about upgrading to blu...lol

Star Wars, Indiana Jones, the MCU, and Alien are my big ones. Of course, there's smaller films I'll gladly upgrade to. There's just a fine line of "small upgrade" and "big upgrade" that I'm waiting for.

If Dolby Atmos becomes standard for 4kBD than I'll be in for sure.

[bailey1987]

I wonder if the 'Digital Bridge' will be there from launch? It would be great to transfer trailers to another device. Anyone know exactly how it works?

[Blu-Dog]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Yes, it was definitely promoted as better..."twice/double the resolution of VHS"...better color..."theater quality multichannel sound"..., chapter search, menus, actor profiles, etc.

All I can remember is "no rewinding", and that closed the deal for me.

[dvdmike]

[harpolini]

I'm hoping that like the Mi4K line of blu-rays that for 4K discs they will think higher in terms of restoration on certain releases (Maybe even a line of Mi8K releases)

Why waste all the time and effort in restoration for titles like My Fair Lady and Lawrence of Arabia (65/70mm) to be mastered in 4K when they should master in 8K. Maybe bigger studio can afford to keep coming back and (re)remastering and its no big deal for them.

I've only heard Baraka and Samsara doing 8K mastering. Hearing of directors using higher grade IMAX stock and 6K workflows, why not think ahead.

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by harpolini

I'm hoping that like the Mi4K line of blu-rays that for 4K discs they will think higher in terms of restoration on certain releases (Maybe even a line of Mi8K releases)

Why waste all the time and effort in restoration for titles like My Fair Lady and Lawrence of Arabia (65/70mm) to be mastered in 4K when they should master in 8K. Maybe bigger studio can afford to keep coming back and (re)remastering and its no big deal for them.

I've only heard Baraka and Samsara doing 8K mastering. Hearing of directors using higher grade IMAX stock and 6K workflows, why not think ahead.

Cost, back catalogue films don't sell as well as they used to.

[GenPion]

Originally Posted by dvdmike

Cost, back catalogue films don't sell as well as they used to.

This is pretty much why.

And the benefits at home won't be as great for most consumers anyway if you go up to 8K. Not that there wouldn't be a difference but it would be a lot less noticeable.

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by GenPion

This is pretty much why.

And the benefits at home won't be as great for most consumers anyway if you go up to 8K. Not that there wouldn't be a difference but it would be a lot less noticeable.

I have been wrong before but 8k has no place in the home

[vargo]

Originally Posted by dvdmike

I have been wrong before but 8k has no place in the home

8K display devices in the home are a technical and commercial inevitability.

You can argue whether they are practical or necessary til the cows come home. And there are many valid points to be made. But at the end of the day the CE industry needs to keep developing and selling new stuff.

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by vargo

8K display devices in the home are a technical and commercial inevitability.

You can argue whether they are practical or necessary til the cows come home. And there are many valid points to be made. But at the end of the day the CE industry needs to keep developing and selling new stuff.

One word..


Content.
8K is too much for 35mm, that tops out at about 6K so unless you're watching films post 2017 your out of luck

[GenPion]

The only way I ever see a smidgen of a possibility of a 8K home media format is if it's in line with the majority of films produced sometime in the future and people want as close to exact replication of that in the home... years down the line. I don't see it happening, though. A lot of people never adopted Blu-ray. 4K Blu-ray will be a further niche within a niche audience. I think it will do well enough to exist and for titles to come out but I don't really forsee even more options down the road. I know technology does tend to improve and new formats come and go over time but we are getting into a territory that currently includes a much smaller pool of films.

[dvdmike]

Anecdotal I know but I see a ton of 4K TVs leaving curry's of late

[vargo]

Originally Posted by dvdmike

One word..


Content.
8K is too much for 35mm, that tops out at about 6K so unless you're watching films post 2017 your out of luck

Like I said, you can make lots of perfectly valid arguments. But it will happen anyway. Every couple of years display manufacturers need to push something new.

4K will keep them busy for a while...we've already had several 'generations' of 4K sets and they will keep offering new generations, gimmicks or genuine improvements over the next few years. These avenues will last them a while, but eventually (sooner than 10 years) they will come back to resolution as the chosen method to offer an upgraded product.

It's just a technological inevitability. To say that it won't happen is like saying that "64K memory out to be enough for anybody".

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by vargo

Like I said, you can make lots of perfectly valid arguments. But it will happen anyway. Every couple of years display manufacturers need to push something new.

4K will keep them busy for a while...we've already had several 'generations' of 4K sets and they will keep offering new generations, gimmicks or genuine improvements over the next few years. These avenues will last them a while, but eventually (sooner than 10 years) they will come back to resolution as the chosen method to offer an upgraded product.

It's just a technological inevitability. To say that it won't happen is like saying that "64K memory out to be enough for anybody".

I don't see it for home adoption, not everything crosses over

[Kirsty_Mc]

Originally Posted by dvdmike

I don't see it for home adoption, not everything crosses over

I can see it happening. One of the scenarios that I can foresee is for multi angle views of sports for example. Say a cricket match, you could have an overall view, one of the wicket, a close up of the crease and maybe even Bumble in a set of simultaneously available windowed views. You would be able choose your main view with a flick of your remote or perhaps a gesture control. In the UK, this would be the Sky-SHD box sitting under your 120 inch telly.

Oh forgot the Holographic Violet-Ray player. .

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by Kirsty_Mc

I can see it happening. One of the scenarios that I can foresee is for multi angle views of sports for example. Say a cricket match, you could have an overall view, one of the wicket, a close up of the crease and maybe even Bumble in a set of simultaneously available windowed views. You would be able choose your main view with a flick of your remote or perhaps a gesture control. In the UK, this would be the Sky-SHD box sitting under your 120 inch telly.

Oh forgot the Holographic Violet-Ray player. .

You can do that on 4k, 4 1080p views for an f1 race maybe or...