Twilight Time Discussion Thread

[jayembee]

Originally Posted by sat.there

I remember in the 80's when I first seen this movie on tv and VHS that during the wild driving scene in the desert part of it had music with words (USED CARS, USED CARS... ETC) in the blu-ray all we get is generic music, why has nobody mentioned this ?

Has it occurred to you that maybe it was changed for TV and VHS, and this is the original? I've only seen the movie once or twice -- first time was probably cable, second time on DVD -- and don't remember the music.

But back at the beginning of home video, the studios started running into the problem of music rights holders claiming that home video formats were not part of the original contracts, and wanted new contracts for more money. The studios responded by substituting different music. Things got (mostly) resolved by the late 90s, and the original music was restored for a lot of films on DVD.

I don't know if Used Cars might've been in this boat. It was released by Columbia, and it seems to me that most (but probably not all) of the music substitutions were done by Paramount and Universal. The DVD (released in 2001) doesn't say anything about the music being changed or restored.

I should be getting the BD today, and I'll be sure to compare it against the DVD. But chances are, Twilight Time used whatever master Sony gave them, and it will probably be the same as on the DVD.

[Maggot]

Got my 3 movies a day early.....

The Mechanic
The Man From Laramie
Heaven Knows Mr. Allison

Thanks Twilight Time

[jayembee]

Originally Posted by sat.there

I remember in the 80's when I first seen this movie on tv and VHS that during the wild driving scene in the desert part of it had music with words (USED CARS, USED CARS... ETC) in the blu-ray all we get is generic music, why has nobody mentioned this ?

I checked the DVD. Same as the BD. The song you're remembering is sung over the end titles.

Just for laughs, I also checked the IMDb. Nary a word mentioned about an "alternate version" other than that CBS cut about seven minutes from it (undoubtedly the stripper scenes) for its TV broadcast. I didn't even see any reference in any of the message board threads (I only checked the thread titles) to changes in the soundtrack.

So, bottom line is that I think you're misrembering it. It happens. There are undoubtedly still people who claim to have seen "Episode IV: A New Hope" in the beginning scrawl in the original release of Star Wars.

[Brad1963]

Originally Posted by Maggot

Got my 3 movies a day early.....

The Mechanic
The Man From Laramie
Heaven Knows Mr. Allison

Thanks Twilight Time

Same here along with The Train and my Criterion shipment of L' Eclisse and All that Heaven Allows.

[ultlife2013]

I actually feel like blind buying The Mechanic just because it's a Charles Bronson movie. Also Michael Winner directing it as well, also to add the cast looks solid.

[belcherman]

Originally Posted by Rizor

I was just about to break down and place an order for Crimes and Misdemeanors and Broadway Danny Rose when I was hit with the prospect of having to shell out ~$500 for all 15 prospective TT/Allen titles.

Sometimes you have to deal with the devil for those must-have releases. For me the one Woody Allen TT release that is a definite must-have is Radio Days (infinitely re-watchable for me), with a 3 or 4 others possible (Love and Death, Broadway Danny Rose, Purple Rose and maybe Crimes and Misdemeanors). As a rule, I prefer the funny Woody Allen to the serious Woody Allen. For me that will be max $150 and that cost will be spread out over the next 12 months or so, if those titles don't sell out by then (unlikely). For the rest, I'll make do with up-converted DVDs.

[sat.there]

Originally Posted by jayembee

I checked the DVD. Same as the BD. The song you're remembering is sung over the end titles.

Just for laughs, I also checked the IMDb. Nary a word mentioned about an "alternate version" other than that CBS cut about seven minutes from it (undoubtedly the stripper scenes) for its TV broadcast. I didn't even see any reference in any of the message board threads (I only checked the thread titles) to changes in the soundtrack.

So, bottom line is that I think you're misrembering it. It happens. There are undoubtedly still people who claim to have seen "Episode IV: A New Hope" in the beginning scrawl in the original release of Star Wars.

I did not mean AND did not mention the end titles !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I SAIS the word USED CARS BEING repeated (sung over and over only) during the end part of the wild car chase scene.

No I am not misremembering because I VIDEOTAPED what I watched in the 1980s and watched it all the time, so no, I am not misremembering

[baheidstu]

Originally Posted by ultlife2013

I actually feel like blind buying The Mechanic just because it's a Charles Bronson movie. Also Michael Winner directing it as well, also to add the cast looks solid.

You should! It's a fantastic film. It has a few great action sequences but it's more than just a standard action flick - it has more an espionage thriller vibe about it with some great twists and turns in the plot. Bronson made so many great films in the 70s, but IMO this is his best.

Originally Posted by sat.there

I did not mean AND did not mention the end titles !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I SAIS the word USED CARS BEING repeated (sung over and over only) during the end part of the wild car chase scene.

No I am not misremembering because I VIDEOTAPED what I watched in the 1980s and watched it all the time, so no, I am not misremembering

No need to get hostile and defensive. Please bear in mind, as another poster mentioned, that it's possible that the TV version you saw could have had music replaced and that the more recent DVD and blu-ray releases restore the music to its proper place. That would be more in keeping with the "norm" when it comes to music cues being changed on home media.

[ultlife2013]

Originally Posted by baheidstu

You should! It's a fantastic film. It has a few great action sequences but it's more than just a standard action flick - it has more an espionage thriller vibe about it with some great twists and turns in the plot. Bronson made so many great films in the 70s, but IMO this is his best.

So you're saying that it's even better than Death Wish?

[sat.there]

Originally Posted by baheidstu

You should! It's a fantastic film. It has a few great action sequences but it's more than just a standard action flick - it has more an espionage thriller vibe about it with some great twists and turns in the plot. Bronson made so many great films in the 70s, but IMO this is his best.



No need to get hostile and defensive. Please bear in mind, as another poster mentioned, that it's possible that the TV version you saw could have had music replaced and that the more recent DVD and blu-ray releases restore the music to its proper place. That would be more in keeping with the "norm" when it comes to music cues being changed on home media.

the music from when movie was on tv was actual music with words !!! the music during the chase scene is generic notes and no words -

[jayembee]

Originally Posted by sat.there

I did not mean AND did not mention the end titles !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I SAIS the word USED CARS BEING repeated (sung over and over only) during the end part of the wild car chase scene.

No I am not misremembering because I VIDEOTAPED what I watched in the 1980s and watched it all the time, so no, I am not misremembering

I said I'd take a look, and report my findings. I did. If you aren't happy with my findings, that's not my fault. Don't bother asking a question if you're going to get P.O.d when the answer isn't to your liking.

I can find no evidence that there exists any alternate version of the film. Period. Take that however you want to.

Sheesh.

[jrsl76]

Anyone know the email I have to contact to see about a replacement Rollerball disc?

[Member-222782]

I assume Screen Archives doesn't charge the same base rate for each title if you buy more than one Blu-ray at a time. It sucks having to pay the base rate twice if for whatever reason you buy multiple BDs just a couple of hours apart. You sort of hope someone notices it's the same person placing the order and ships everything in one package. Lesson learned: make up your mind and buy everything at the same time. Unless, of course, they do charge per unit.

[wormraper]

Originally Posted by cine74

I assume Screen Archives doesn't charge the same base rate for each title if you buy more than one Blu-ray at a time. It sucks having to pay the base rate twice if for whatever reason you buy multiple BDs just a couple of hours apart. You sort of hope someone notices it's the same person placing the order and ships everything in one package. Lesson learned: make up your mind and buy everything at the same time. Unless, of course, they do charge per unit.

shipping rate? no, they charge by weight. for example it's almost $5 for one movie. but 3 movies is $6.10

[sat.there]

Originally Posted by jayembee

I said I'd take a look, and report my findings. I did. If you aren't happy with my findings, that's not my fault. Don't bother asking a question if you're going to get P.O.d when the answer isn't to your liking.

I can find no evidence that there exists any alternate version of the film. Period. Take that however you want to.

Sheesh.

no evidence huh ? you are like the people who can facts right in front of you proving you wrong, yet are too stubborn or worse, to acknowledge they are wrong.

I have the proof in what I recorded off tv and what watched on regular vhs

[jayembee]

Originally Posted by sat.there

no evidence huh ? you are like the people who can facts right in front of you proving you wrong, yet are too stubborn or worse, to acknowledge they are wrong.

I have the proof in what I recorded off tv and what watched on regular vhs

OK. I've no corroborating evidence. Unless you can show me what you've seen, the "facts" are not in front of me. You can talk all you want about recording the movie and watching it every single day for the past 30 years, but if you can't show anyone else this "proof", then it doesn't count as "proof".

[tcdrek]

Originally Posted by sat.there

no evidence huh ? you are like the people who can facts right in front of you proving you wrong, yet are too stubborn or worse, to acknowledge they are wrong.

I have the proof in what I recorded off tv and what watched on regular vhs

I always find it amusing when someone goes on a forum looking for an answer from other people, and then reacts as if there's a conspiracy against them when they don't find the answer they're looking for.

[klauswhereareyou]

If the whole Used Cars soundtrack thing is true, than it just means that they changed the soundrack for TV...not shocking considering that's happened before...but really who cares, this is the theatrical cut, and I'd guess a TV cut with gimped music isn't getting a release.

[tcdrek]

Originally Posted by klauswhereareyou

If the whole Used Cars soundtrack thing is true, than it just means that they changed the soundrack for TV...not shocking considering that's happened before...but really who cares, this is the theatrical cut, and I'd guess a TV cut with gimped music isn't getting a release.

Exactly. And if I remember correctly, the music in question that shows up in this particular scene on the dvd and twilight time bd isn't "generic" music, but composed music that's consistent with the score in the rest of the film.

[rock, stone]

Originally Posted by tcdrek

I always find it amusing when someone goes on a forum looking for an answer from other people, and then reacts as if there's a conspiracy against them when they don't find the answer they're looking for.

Too many periods and commas, not enough exclamation points to have a valid argument.