Twilight Time Discussion Thread

[JoeDeM]

Originally Posted by Chadhobbick

I'm a long time lurker and newbie member of the site, but I have a question in regards to the releases. There are a few that I want to get, mainly Picnic, Bye Bye Birdie, and Steel Magnolias, so far but i'm hesitant b/c of the price and the idea that they may be released later on like The Grapes of Wrath. I just can't see Bye Bye Birdie and Steel Magnolias not being moderate sellers out in the main market. Is there a time frame set on these, or is it just a buyer beware situation where it could be possible that they could be released mainstream in a few months to a year of so?

Really it come down to this, if they sell out, you are going to see a huge increase in price in the seller markets (see thread on Mysterious Island and Fright Night) if it's something you really love then I would jump on it. There is no guarantee they will come out shortly after the 3 years are up. Grapes of Wrath was only a SAE exclusive for a few months, and was not a Twilight Time release.

[ROclockCK]

Originally Posted by Yankees0222

Yea, I got a couple of them a little while back with some of my orders.

Maybe this is what SAE will be using now instead of individual title-specific magnets Yankees?

[cavesailor]

Originally Posted by ROclockCK

To my surprise, I did receive a magnet with Bye-Bye Birdie and High Time, but it was one I've never seen before:



Is this generic TT collection 'roll-up' magnet something new?

A week ago, I go received My copies of Desiree and the Big Heat. Desiree had its own magnet and I got one like above. I thought that I had missed out on the first 1,000 of the big heat so they threw in some free advertising magnet. Not the same, but its free.

[oildude]

I finally watched As Good as it Gets last night. I thought I had seen this on DVD years ago, and recalled liking it, but as I watched the blu-ray I realized I had never seen it before. What a great movie! Really glad I ordered this one. Very well written and acted.

I can't recall seeing any rom-com genre films made in the last few years that compare to the quality of these older movies. Bell, Book, and Candle and As Good as it Gets are two excellent examples. They definitely don't make 'em like they used to.

[ROclockCK]

Originally Posted by cavesailor

A week ago, I go received My copies of Desiree and the Big Heat. Desiree had its own magnet and I got one like above. I thought that I had missed out on the first 1,000 of the big heat so they threw in some free advertising magnet. Not the same, but its free.

Yeah, those Big Heat magnets must be long gone cavesailor. About 2 months ago, while submitting my regular pre-order, I picked up this title for a couple of friends without SAE accounts, and even then there weren't any BH magnets left. I expect this title will be TT's next sell out announcement*...

* Unless Night of the Living Dead beats it with a Fright Night-style fast start/faster finish.

[McCrutchy]

Originally Posted by oildude

I finally watched As Good as it Gets last night. I thought I had seen this on DVD years ago, and recalled liking it, but as I watched the blu-ray I realized I had never seen it before. What a great movie! Really glad I ordered this one. Very well written and acted.

I can't recall seeing any rom-com genre films made in the last few years that compare to the quality of these older movies. Bell, Book, and Candle and As Good as it Gets are two excellent examples. They definitely don't make 'em like they used to.

I didn't realize As Good as it Gets in now an example of "how they used to make 'em"...

When did I wake up and turn 50?

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[lcummins]

Originally Posted by ROclockCK

To my surprise, I did receive a magnet with Bye-Bye Birdie and High Time, but it was one I've never seen before:...

Is this generic TT collection 'roll-up' magnet something new?

Originally Posted by Yankees0222

Yea, I got a couple of them a little while back with some of my orders.

Dang, I didn't get one of those with my Birdie or High Time... guess I'll have to hope for one with the next set.

[Dex Robinson]

Originally Posted by McCrutchy

I didn't realize As Good as it Gets in now an example of "how they used to make 'em"...

When did I wake up and turn 50?

Ha...I was thinkin' the same thing.

Ah yes...I remember the good ole days back in 1997. I look fondly on those days gone by when The Simpsons had only been on the air for eight years. We'd tune in the late night TV shows and see guys like Jay Leno and David Letterman (anybody remember them?). Who can forget those long gone, golden age stars like Jack Nicholson, Greg Kinnear, Helen Hunt and Cuba Gooding Jr.? Yes my friends, we will not see their kind again.

[ROclockCK]

Originally Posted by oildude

I finally watched As Good as it Gets last night. I thought I had seen this on DVD years ago, and recalled liking it, but as I watched the blu-ray I realized I had never seen it before. What a great movie! Really glad I ordered this one. Very well written and acted.

I can't recall seeing any rom-com genre films made in the last few years that compare to the quality of these older movies. Bell, Book, and Candle and As Good as it Gets are two excellent examples. They definitely don't make 'em like they used to.

Slight correction: "They definitely dont' write 'em like they used to" oildude. Rom-coms are like any other genre; they can be done well or indifferently...unfortunately these days, too often the latter.

Which is as good a lead-in as any to my enthusiastic endorsement of High Time. Admittedly a bit of a stretch in terms of 'rom-com', but this movie does offer many venerable genre elements, including an utterly charming romantic lead, Nicole Maurey, whom I couldn't remember from anything else except The Day of the Triffids (1962).

High Time wasn't a PQ and AQ jaw-dropper like Bye-Bye Birdie, though pretty darn good on the whole, but I have to say I actually enjoyed it more than Birdie as a moo-vie. For me, this was a Bing Crosby picture I'd never seen...a Blake Edwards picture I'd never seen...a Fox 'Scope picture I'd never seen...and a Henry Mancini score I'd never heard. And by the way, what a score...I think Mancini's infectious High Time 'march' is now permanently imprinted on my brain cells. In fact, I'm listening to the isolated score as I write this.

What an all-round delight! Not falling on the floor funny, although Edwards did manage to work-in some nifty sight gags, especially during his clever montages and scene transitions. High Time was just a charming, breezy 'feel good' movie with a very attractive soul...I loved its gently sassy, retro-cool 'vibe'.

But that music! I...can't...get...that...damn...tune...out...of... my...head!

[JoeDeM]

Originally Posted by ROclockCK

Slight correction: "They definitely dont' write 'em like they used to" oildude. Rom-coms are like any other genre; they can be done well or indifferently...unfortunately these days, too often the latter.

Which is as is good a lead-in as any to my enthusiastic endorsement of High Time. Admittedly a bit of a stretch in terms of 'rom-com', but this movie does offer many venerable genre elements, including an utterly charming romantic lead, Nicole Maurey, whom I couldn't remember from anything else except The Day of the Triffids (1962).

High Time wasn't a PQ and AQ jaw-dropper like Bye-Bye Birdie, although I thought it looked pretty darn good on the whole, but I have to say I actually enjoyed it more than Birdie as a movie. For me, this was a Bing Crosby picture I'd never seen...a Blake Edwards picture I'd never seen...a Fox 'Scope picture I'd never seen...and a Henry Mancini score I'd never heard. And by the way, what a score...I think Mancini's infectious High Time 'march' is now permanently imprinted on my brain cells. In fact, I'm listening to its isolated score as I write this.

What an all-round delight! Not falling on the floor funny, although Edwards did manage to work-in some nifty sight gags, especially during his clever montages and scene transitions. High Time was just a charming, breezy 'feel good' movie with a very attractive soul...I loved its gentle, retro-cool 'vibe'.

But that music! I...can't...get...that...damn...tune...out...of... my...head!

Damn you ROclockCK, I was on the fence about High Time, Ive only see it a few times on TV quite a few years back, but now I may have to order it.

[ROclockCK]

Originally Posted by JoeDeM

Damn you ROclockCK, I was on the fence about High Time, Ive only see it a few times on TV quite a few years back, but now I may have to order it.

This one certainly won't be for everyone Joe. Whatever Rapture is on the serious side of the TT collection, then High Time must surely be its opposite in frivolity.

At least if you've already seen this movie on TV, you know generally what to expect. For me, High Time was a totally blind buy, but I couldn't be happier the way it turned out. I still can't believe Fox never released this thing on DVD*...core Crosby, Edwards, and Mancini fans must be thrilled that it is finally available on home video.

* ...or Der Bingle's other picture from the same era Say One For Me, which I did see panned and scanned in B&W on network TV back in the 60s.

[oildude]

I was joking, fellas. Nice to see my comments are taken so seriously here.

And as a sarcastic comment on how Sony readily gave up AGAIG as if it were an oldie.

[ROclockCK]

Originally Posted by oildude

I was joking, fellas. Nice to see my comments are taken so seriously here.

It must be your picture.

[EddieLarkin]

I wasn't sure about High Time and was considering picking it up on DVD first, but after realising it was indeed never released on the format, and after reading ROclockCKs review, I think I might go for it during my next round of SAE purchases. Thanks for the write up!

I was wondering if you've gone Region Free and imported the 'Scope classic Will Success Spoil Rock Hunter from Masters of Cinema? It seems to fit the bill for a TT release. The Region B edition is a great package, with a fab 50 page booklet

[ROclockCK]

Originally Posted by EddieLarkin

I wasn't sure about High Time and was considering picking it up on DVD first, but after realising it was indeed never released on the format, and after reading ROclockCKs review, I think I might go for it during my next round of SAE purchases. Thanks for the write up!

Like I said Eddie, High Time won't be for everyone. Compared to other titles in the collection, it's much lighter weight...a genial 'safe' entertainment which was aimed squarely at your parents and grandparents tastes even in its day. But it had genuine class and style, and just hit me the right way. I really liked its 'vibe'.

Besides, for fans, this movie was practically a 'test tube' for Blake Edwards and Henry Mancini's 60s screen comedy...especially their creative collaboration on the Pink Panther series. You can see the genesis for that style all over this thing...

Originally Posted by EddieLarkin

I was wondering if you've gone Region Free and imported the 'Scope classic Will Success Spoil Rock Hunter from Masters of Cinema? It seems to fit the bill for a TT release. The Region B edition is a great package, with a fab 50 page booklet

Unfortunately no, I'm still living in PS3 land. Although I have purchased some select All-Region titles from Eureka!, I'm being very careful about that, especially if I think there's a better than 50/50 chance we'll eventually get a Region A or All-Region edition. This is why I still don't have Cleopatra on Blu-ray, even when the U.K all-region version could be had from ImportCDs at $16 bucks and change. I'm prepared to wait until Fox gets the entire package right for an anniversary North America release either later this year or early next.

As for MOC, they've done some wonderful titles, and clearly done so with quality and care, but I just can't shake the notion that there will be a future for most of this stuff in Region A...and Will Success Spoil Rock Hunter? is actually a perfect example of that. I mean, even if Fox doesn't release it themselves (after all, it was part of their premier "Cinema Classics" special edition DVD series), then you're right, it would be a perfect fit for a high-end collector licensee like Twilight Time. At this point, it could go either way, but I'm still betting that we will see WSSRH available on Blu-ray domestically within a year, two tops.

It's not like I expect to see the same flood of catalogue titles we had with DVD, but the situation is no longer quite as grim as it was this time last year. Sure, the economics of mass retail will still stymie release of most deep catalogue titles on Blu-ray, but the cottage licensees seem to be picking up the slack dandily in that regard. Heck, later this year, folks will get to choose from not 1, but 2 versions of The Rains of Ranchipur (Twilight Time and Fox Germany)...which is amazing for a title that never even had a DVD release! Add to that The Sound and the Fury, Beloved Infidel, and Bonjour Tristesse, just from TT, not counting Olive, Criterion, Kino, and Eureka!, and I have plenty of fine deep catalogue viewing to look forward to well into next year.

So I'm still on the fence about investing in an All-Region player, but with every passing month of catalogue announcements, am seeing less and less reason for it.

[rafaelsalguero]

Today arrived my ordenof "The Big Heat" in just 7 days to Mexico and.... comes with the MAGNET !!!!!!!!




OMG !! I'm in shock

[ROclockCK]

Originally Posted by rafaelsalguero

Today arrived my ordenof "The Big Heat" in just 7 days to Mexico and.... comes with the MAGNET !!!!!!!!

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OMG !! I'm in shock

So am I rafaelsalguero.

Someone at SAE must have recently found a stash. Neither of my Big Heat orders in June or July included a magnet.

[CinemaScope]

Originally Posted by ROclockCK

So I'm still on the fence about investing in an All-Region player, but with every passing month of catalogue announcements, am seeing less and less reason for it.

Yeah, when I bought a Blu-ray machine I decided not to go down the multi-region route (I'm UK region B). I haven't regretted it. When you have to buy a new machine it does limit your choice. Most catalogue releases from the big studios are multi-region now, as are TT & Olive Films.

And enough about the damn magnets! Who cares, my TT's are peeling already. You can buy much better film poster magnets from Ebay.

[dsman71]

Yeah really, a magnet makes someone that excited, please...Id rather their movies come with extras

[ROclockCK]

Originally Posted by CinemaScope

Yeah, when I bought a Blu-ray machine I decided not to go down the multi-region route (I'm UK region B). I haven't regretted it. When you have to buy a new machine it does limit your choice. Most catalogue releases from the big studios are multi-region now, as are TT & Olive Films.

...plus I'm still concerned about the firmware 'lag' CinemaScope, even among name brand All-Region players. I have my Region A PS3 connected to the 'Net and set up to download firmware updates automatically as soon as they become available. I can't recall the last time I had any issue with disc playback, TT or otherwise. Mysterious Island prompted a firmware update during disc load...but that was about it.

Originally Posted by CinemaScope

And enough about the damn magnets! Who cares, my TT's are peeling already. You can buy much better film poster magnets from Ebay.

I hear ya. I just thought it was amusing that rafaelsalguero was still able to get one with The Big Heat so late into its run. FTR, none of my SAE/TT magnets have peeled, but then again, I don't even attempt to display or use them...they go straight from the mailer into the case tucked underneath the insert booklet.