Twilight Time Discussion Thread

[film11]

Originally Posted by hariseldon

Point for forgetting the clarify format



Again no argument, but it does fit with the premise the many of TT items do seem to be complementary releases to a library rather than cream of the crop. That's certainly not a flaw since otherwise many of these were never going to be released.

OTOH, there are a few items that were forgotten or several I'd now classify as Top Tier possibly that weren't ever considered that way even when they were released.

Rapture I still think is an absolute Top 250 Movie and may explain as much as any release WHY TT is important and may be one of the jewels of the collection

The work done on restoring/recreating John Houston's original vision of MOBY DICK is their crowning achievement for me.

[SeanJoyce]

Originally Posted by hariseldon

Again no argument, but it does fit with the premise the many of TT items do seem to be complementary releases to a library rather than cream of the crop. That's certainly not a flaw since otherwise many of these were never going to be released.

I mean, that right there is TT's appeal (to me anyways); let the major studios release the "cream of the crop" catalog titles, while botique labels like TT and Kino unearth the buried gems that would never see the light of day.

Rapture is a perfect example; Swamp Water, The Secret of Santa Vittoria, Chilly Scenes of Winter, Who'll Stop the Rain, Cutter's Way, and many others exemplify TT's value to physical media collectors, and my library would be woefully lacking and incomplete without them.

[Monterey Jack]

Exactly. Everyone has their collection of underseen gems, and TT has released a number of awesome, obscure movies that don't usually appear on "all-time classic movie" lists.

[hariseldon]

Originally Posted by film11

The work done on restoring/recreating John Houston's original vision of MOBY DICK is their crowning achievement for me.

On the technical side yes, but I think most people knew of Huston's Whale if only b/c of the title of Movie, Director, and StarPower.

Films like Rapture and Swamp Water I would honestly NEVER have even known about. For Sean -- I actually was going to included Swamp Water in my last post as a second example



FWIW
MODEL SHOP appears SOLD OUT on tt.com site and now is an SAE only (for the US copy)

[belcherman]

Originally Posted by jayembee

Yeah, I got that email. There are only five titles in that list that I don't already have.

There's about 25 that I don't currently own, mostly because I've held off the last couple of years on buying as many TT titles as I have in the past. I've been waiting for sales, and while this sale is tempting, there are some sale titles that I want, but there are also many that are still stuck at $14.95. I think I'll think on it a bit.

[Professor Echo]

Originally Posted by BenOswald

One of the many things I like about Twilight Time is that so many of their releases are amazing, yet highly imperfect films. Movies are so very difficult to make, they take so much preparation, timing, and involve tons of huge personalities with often competing visions of the material. So many movies with almost all the amazing pieces can be so very interesting.

The Chase (1966) is a great example, and was kind of a 'gateway' to TT for me. There's so many interesting things going on, but it's really not a great movie. I mean, the depth of the cast, the sultry way Angie Dickinson is filmed, the rich Technicolor, the John Barry score.

When I was a little kid in the 60’s, Alfred Hitchcock and Arthur Penn were the only two director’s names I recognized. Before I even knew what a director was. They were the pioneers for me.

TT chose movies for release the way I would, out of a love of film first and all other considerations after. Both TT and KINO are the labels that come the closest to the way I would run a label if I were in charge. Damn the bottom line, this is about art and fun.

[Page14]

It's nice that Twilight Time kept the last sales prices active instead of jacking them up again. That way, people can still buy titles they might have held off on but are still interested in, at a decent price ... without being forced to buy 10 titles (if they're only interested in a few).

[jayembee]

Originally Posted by Monterey Jack

Exactly. Everyone has their collection of underseen gems, and TT has released a number of awesome, obscure movies that don't usually appear on "all-time classic movie" lists.

One of that crowd for me was Next Stop, Greenwich Village. I'd only seen a couple of Mazursky's films back in the day, and they didn't make much of an impression on me then. I got the disc recently as part of their current sale, and in scanning through it (I tend to scan through discs right away to catch any glitches, especially when I may not be able to get a replacement later on), it really caught my attention. Shortly thereafter, I made a point of watching it, and thoroughly enjoyed it.

[Reddington]

I think this should be alright to post given some folk here missed the TT before it went OOP (including me ). Scorpion is releasing The Mechanic next month:

[*DrStrangelove*]

Is there anywhere to see what releases are low in stock? I ordered a couple Woody Allen titles last night but I still wanna get a couple more. Wanna make sure they’re not sold out before I make another order.

[DavidRoylance]

Originally Posted by *DrStrangelove*

Is there anywhere to see what releases are low in stock? I ordered a couple Woody Allen titles last night but I still wanna get a couple more. Wanna make sure they’re not sold out before I make another order.

There is a Twilight Time fan group on FaceBook that does regular updates on stock.

[hariseldon]

Originally Posted by *DrStrangelove*

Is there anywhere to see what releases are low in stock? I ordered a couple Woody Allen titles last night but I still wanna get a couple more. Wanna make sure they’re not sold out before I make another order.

This thread and the Deals thread has stock listed for most of the lower stock items at twilightimemovie site. I'm not really sure how to get stock at SAE since even teh 50 Cart trick doesn't seem terribly reliable.

If you give me a list of the titles you're interested in I can pull those out, but in general at twilighttimemovies.com (all are also at SAE). Is this all of them b/c I feel like I missing some (not counting those that have already sold out)

Alice 156
Another Woman 44 -- has been selling steadily about 10 copies per week with no real spurts unlike some other titles
Bananas 440
Everything You Wanted to Know 87
Husbands and Wives 267
Interiors 111
Midsummer Night's Sex Comedy 268
September 282
Shadows and Fog 320
Stardust Memories 362
Zelig 307

Only at SAE
Manhattan Murder Mystery - this would be the one item that might sell out quickly since lately anything SAE drops below 50 it's typically sold out within a few hours. While it's possible that resellers are just waiting for that last drop to scoop up all the last copies, I get the feeling the SAE inventory just isn't very accurate anymore

[hariseldon]

I'll throw out a bit of a flag on a couple titles that are selling quite crisply -- one I could predict, the other has shocked me a bit not b/c of the quality Item, but it's not usually a category I would have expected.

The 2 titles that appear to have sold 100+ copies in the last 4 weeks at ttm

Seven-Ups at around 110 I not shocked at all. Roy Scheider, Philip D’Antoni, very popular genre coming off The French Connection, decently well know movie -- what's not to like

Absolute Beginners -- 110 copies sold in 4 weeks and close to 50 in the last 10 days.
I will admit I'm a bit surprised to the point of being shocked at this one. Being $5 admittedly helps, but there are other $5 items that haven't anywhere near as many copies. On my list of fewest copies left -- in the last month it's moved from around 40th in early April to 4th now.

[UnionJackMix]

Originally Posted by hariseldon

This thread and the Deals thread has stock listed for most of the lower stock items at twilightimemovie site. I'm not really sure how to get stock at SAE since even teh 50 Cart trick doesn't seem terribly reliable.

If you give me a list of the titles you're interested in I can pull those out, but in general at twilighttimemovies.com (all are also at SAE). Is this all of them b/c I feel like I missing some (not counting those that have already sold out)

Alice 156
Another Woman 44 -- has been selling steadily about 10 copies per week with no real spurts unlike some other titles
Bananas 440
Everything You Wanted to Know 87
Husbands and Wives 267
Interiors 111
Midsummer Night's Sex Comedy 268
September 282
Shadows and Fog 320
Stardust Memories 362
Zelig 307

Only at SAE
Manhattan Murder Mystery - this would be the one item that might sell out quickly since lately anything SAE drops below 50 it's typically sold out within a few hours. While it's possible that resellers are just waiting for that last drop to scoop up all the last copies, I get the feeling the SAE inventory just isn't very accurate anymore

Sorry, what is SAE?
Is there a site that still sells MMM? I hate that I missed it.

[RCRochester]

Originally Posted by UnionJackMix

Sorry, what is SAE?
Is there a site that still sells MMM? I hate that I missed it.

SAE = Screen Archives Entertainment

https://www.screenarchives.com/title...-MYSTERY-1993/

[UnionJackMix]

Originally Posted by RCRochester

SAE = Screen Archives Entertainment

https://www.screenarchives.com/title...-MYSTERY-1993/

Thank you so much!!!

[hariseldon]

Originally Posted by UnionJackMix

Thank you so much!!!

SAE was the main (often only) site that sold TT for many years before twilighttimemovies opened a parallel direct site in ?2015. They appear to split most of the titles, but dont seem to do a lot of sharing. As best as I can they each get about 1/2 the stock. Many of the items released prior to ttm opening have essentially stayed SAE only though most of them are now sold out. I think the owners of TT had a long standing relationship with SAE due to their interest in Soundtracks so it was easy to use that mom/pop outlet to sell most of their Movie Releases, esp when there were only 2-3/month.

Prices and most sales are the same.
TTM ships out of texas
SAE Virginia

I;ve always ordered from SAE since they are 1 state over and my packaged arrive in 2-3 days with pretty much stellar packaging/service.

Some like TTM better - for larger orders their shipping in cheaper but up 10 titles it's really pretty much identical. TTM has some discount promotions fro doing reviews on prior orders which SAE doesn't have. The current 10 for 115 sale is one of the few ttm exclusive sales I can remember -- usually they run simultaneous equivalent sales.

[*DrStrangelove*]

Originally Posted by hariseldon

This thread and the Deals thread has stock listed for most of the lower stock items at twilightimemovie site. I'm not really sure how to get stock at SAE since even teh 50 Cart trick doesn't seem terribly reliable.

If you give me a list of the titles you're interested in I can pull those out, but in general at twilighttimemovies.com (all are also at SAE). Is this all of them b/c I feel like I missing some (not counting those that have already sold out)

Alice 156
Another Woman 44 -- has been selling steadily about 10 copies per week with no real spurts unlike some other titles
Bananas 440
Everything You Wanted to Know 87
Husbands and Wives 267
Interiors 111
Midsummer Night's Sex Comedy 268
September 282
Shadows and Fog 320
Stardust Memories 362
Zelig 307

Only at SAE
Manhattan Murder Mystery - this would be the one item that might sell out quickly since lately anything SAE drops below 50 it's typically sold out within a few hours. While it's possible that resellers are just waiting for that last drop to scoop up all the last copies, I get the feeling the SAE inventory just isn't very accurate anymore

Thanks a lot for this! Fortunately I picked up Another Woman and went the SAE and grabbed Manhattan Murder Mystery as well. I hope Everything...about Sex is still available when I do another order maybe later in the month.

[Egbert Souse]

Do the Arrow and Twilight Time (and MGM US) editions of Woody Allen's films have the same transfers for the United Artists and Orion titles?

I'm trying to decide whether to order what's still in print from TT and fill in the OOP ones from Arrow. Though, even Arrow doesn't seem to have Crimes and Misdemeanors in print.

I managed to get the first Arrow box, but missed out on the second and third volumes.

[Dailyan]

Originally Posted by Egbert Souse

Do the Arrow and Twilight Time (and MGM US) editions of Woody Allen's films have the same transfers for the United Artists and Orion titles?

They both utilize the same transfers.