Twilight Time Discussion Thread

[jmclick]

Originally Posted by UnionJackMix

I don't think my question was asked before: if you have an unfulfilled order and you get a notification that a title is sold out and you get a partial refund, does it mean that's it or are there still chances you get additional emails about more titles being sold out within the same order?

That's a great question, and I wish I had a definitive answer for you, but I don't. If I were to guess, I'd say that a second refund on the order is a possibility. Fingers crossed that it doesn't happen!

[UnionJackMix]

Originally Posted by jmclick

That's a great question, and I wish I had a definitive answer for you, but I don't. If I were to guess, I'd say that a second refund on the order is a possibility. Fingers crossed that it doesn't happen!

On the bright side, SAE just shipped my two orders. Semi-yay!

[jshaide]

Originally Posted by UnionJackMix

Ouch don't say that someone will crucify you for saying this!

Hah!

Eh, screw 'em. I have plenty of TT titles, more than half of which were bought full price, day of. Nobody can call me tight on them. There just wasn't nearly as much to buy at the time.

Additionally, one can't predict what ones interests will be later on from release date to present day. People discover actors, directors, writers, genres, eras, and suddenly find themselves intrigued in things in those particular periods. A title announcement in 2015 could be of something that doesn't interest you, but a few years later could suddenly be something in an area you want to work with more. The only solution would be to blind buy everything whenever it is released. That'll show' em!

[thebalconyfool]

Originally Posted by jshaide

Additionally, one can't predict what ones interests will be later on from release date to present day. People discover actors, directors, writers, genres, eras, and suddenly find themselves intrigued in things in those particular periods. A title announcement in 2015 could be of something that doesn't interest you, but a few years later could suddenly be something you want to work with more.

So true. This happens to me all the time.

[hariseldon]

Originally Posted by UnionJackMix

I don't think my question was asked before: if you have an unfulfilled order and you get a notification that a title is sold out and you get a partial refund, does it mean that's it or are there still chances you get additional emails about more titles being sold out within the same order?

It's certainly possible. A couple folks have mentioned getting more than one cancellation/refund notice from the same order though the longer it goes out I guess the less likely it is

Originally Posted by belcherman

This. I'm sure I could unload the extra copies on eBay for cost, but that's a hassle I'd rather avoid now, when even going to the Post Office carries its own risks.

That or get to to one of the forum members who got cancelled for close to cost.

Originally Posted by Page14

This made me curious to look up my own Major Dundee buying history. I was surprised to find out that I bought it on June 4, 2014 from TCM Shop for $27.96. Hmmm ... trying to remember the circumstances around that buy.

There was a short period of time where TCM was a minor actor in TT discs and they would either have a discount for ordering a group of items or a $$$ or % off per order code and FS code if you ordered $75-100. The $$ off codes soon were blocked for TT items and often TT discs were priced higher at TCM. Even worse, some people made orders for items like THE BLOB that TCM oversold and finally cancelled AFTER it had sold out at SAE. Not long after that fiasco, TCM was removed

It looks like I made 4 or 5 TCM orders for about 20 discs and my average cost was $26/item in an order counting shipping and tax instead of $30 at SAE.

[UnionJackMix]

Originally Posted by jshaide

Additionally, one can't predict what ones interests will be later on from release date to present day. People discover actors, directors, writers, genres, eras, and suddenly find themselves intrigued in things in those particular periods. A title announcement in 2015 could be of something that doesn't interest you, but a few years later could suddenly be something in an area you want to work with more. The only solution would be to blind buy everything whenever it is released. That'll show' em!

Absolutely! This happens to me all the time, although more when I was much younger. Sometimes you aren't ready, not mature enough, not interested enough, or just had different expectations. Time changes that.
Same with music.
What I know is that when I determine that I have a new (to me) actress I have serious interest in, I start to buy as much as I can, especially new releases as I know from a very early age that things go out of print and get more expensive, so you might as well buy them now.
Good to know others share these feelings.
I also found out I have more TT titles that I did not list before, and they aren't in my customer profile, I must have ordered them before registering as a customer - that option always confused me and being in a hurry most of the time I often took it!

[Brandon K]

Originally Posted by prkchopexpress

really surprising that with the talk of possible cancellations, that people aren’t placing orders for titles on screen archives.

Originally Posted by jmclick

I've adopted a wait and see attitude

Originally Posted by thebalconyfool

This is what I'm doing as well, taking a wait and see approach.

My SAE order of "most likely at risk" TT titles (minus 3 no longer available at SAE), placed on the evening of the 20th, shipped first thing this morning. Being in Canada I haven't received any of my SAE orders yet (the first one from the 10th shipped on the 13th), but they should all be on the way.

Inquiring about the order in which orders are shipping, TT Customer Service sent me the following reply last night:

Originally Posted by TT Customer Service

I have no insight into how orders are shipping.
​
We told the warehouse to ship in the most effective and safe manner possible. We do not micro-manage them.
​
We are still thousands of orders behind. Your continued patience would be appreciated.

[UnionJackMix]

The more people will place orders at SAE and cancel TT, the more likely I will get more in my orders. Thank you

[liveandletmarblerye]

Received my SAE shipping notification from my order on 5/16.

All blind but they seem like they're up my alley:

[Michael24]

Got my copy of The Pirates of Blood River this morning.

[belcherman]

Well, since SAE shipped my order from 5/14, I figured I’d give them some more business. There’s often debate about which is the best decade for film, but for me there’s no debate about the best half-decade in film. Here are three from 1971, 1972, and 1973, respectively.

[Show spoiler]

As for my TT orders, Que Sera, Sera, I guess.

[Flapperdame16]

Dont mean to stop the shipping discussion, but does anyone find it interesting that a handful of Gene Tierney films were a part of this line? On the one hand it's a good thing her films got released. On the other hand, it's sad her films won't receive more recognition. With many of her films being Fox films, I feel saddened by the fact many of her films will be taken out print. I should have added Dragonwyck to my SAE order- and I think of this now?

[Rhylliam]

Order 740XX placed on May 10th is still showing at 'Awaiting Shipment'. 15 of the 24 items I ordered state they can no longer be re-ordered. Curious how this is going to play out. If they end up having to cancel items and refunding money, they better refund the shipping costs as well. Shipping to Canada was wildly expensive, and really shouldn't be.

[HaroldnMaude]

For anyone interested in the long OOP titles, & alternate editions: I got the 20th Century Fox Japanese Region A edition of Breaking Away today that I ordered last week from Amazon Japan. Comparing to reviews of the TT release it looks like it is the same transfer, but has none of the special features of the TT release. It does have a slipcover though. Good value for a couple hundred dollars LESS than the TT edition is going for on ebay.

[hariseldon]

Originally Posted by Rhylliam

Order 740XX placed on May 10th is still showing at 'Awaiting Shipment'. 15 of the 24 items I ordered state they can no longer be re-ordered. Curious how this is going to play out. If they end up having to cancel items and refunding money, they better refund the shipping costs as well. Shipping to Canada was wildly expensive, and really shouldn't be.

I'll be surprised if you don't get at least 21-22 and wouldn't be shocked to see all 24 shipped.

On refunds -- so far the shipping costs have been refunded prorated across the number of title in the order

[jmclick]

Originally Posted by Flapperdame16

Dont mean to stop the shipping discussion, but does anyone find it interesting that a handful of Gene Tierney films were a part of this line? On the one hand it's a good thing her films got released. On the other hand, it's sad her films won't receive more recognition. Wih many of her films being Fox films, I feel saddened by the fact many of her films will be taken out print. I should have added Dragonwyck to my SAE order- and I think of this now?

I wasn't so much surprised as I was thrilled whenever Twilight Time announced a new Gene Tierney disc. She was a major star during the 1940's, with a remarkable run of critical and box office hits running from 1943 through 1947: Heaven Can Wait (1943), a Best Picture nominee; Laura (1944), a bona fide film noir classic nominated for 4 Oscars; A Bell for Adano (1945), based on the John Hersey novel and play; Leave Her to Heaven (1945), which netted Tierney a Best Actress Oscar nomination and was the highest-grossing film released by 20th Century-Fox during the entire 1940's; Dragonwyck (1946), which was filmed before Leave Her to Heaven, but was held back so that it could be released as Fox's big Easter 1946 feature (Darryl Zanuck also was convinced that Tierney was going to win the Oscar for LHtH and wanted to capitalize on the publicity); The Razor's Edge (1946), a huge box office smash that was nominated for multiple Oscars including Best Picture; and The Ghost and Mrs. Muir (1947), a huge success in which Tierney appeared in every scene.

There were other notable successes, of course, including three revered noirs: Whirlpool (1949); Night and the City (1950); and Where the Sidewalk Ends (1950). She was superb in Paramount's hit comedy, The Mating Season (1951), and was very touching in Close to My Heart (1951), a classy soap opera at Warner Brothers. The last huge box office hit she appeared in was The Egyptian (1954), which was one of the top-grossing films of the year and a cult classic.

Tierney appeared in 36 feature films between 1940 and 1964, and so far, 12 of them have been released on blu-ray. That's a pretty good batting average, really. I was so disappointed that Twilight Time never upgraded The Left Hand of God, in which she starred opposite Humphrey Bogart, to blu-ray; it was one of their first DVD releases. Of Tierney's 36 films, only five of them have never been released in on DVD or blu-ray in the United States: Belle Starr (1941); A Bell for Adano (1945); The Mating Season (1951); The Secret of Convict Lake (1951); and Personal Affair (1953).

Miss Tierney certainly did well by Twilight Time, and vice-versa. I will always be grateful to them for that!

[Flapperdame16]

How do you check the stock count at SAE?

[Dailyan]

Originally Posted by jmclick

Miss Tierney certainly did well by Twilight Time, and vice-versa. I will always be grateful to them for that!

Yeah, I became a bigger fan thanks to TT’s releaes of “Dragonwyck” and “Where the Sidewalk Ends”. I also find it neat her and I share the same birthday.

[hariseldon]

Originally Posted by Flapperdame16

How do you check the stock count at SAE?

Add and item to the cart, change top 100 and update. SAE maxes out at 50 so it's impossible as far as I;m aware to distinguish 50 from 1000

SAE has sent emails last week listing LOW QUANTITY items. The last one -- all 3 of the very low quantity items are sold out so best guess is those were close to 50 to begin with. The plan LOW Quantity items -- 3 have sold out (and one was sold out when the email was sent) so best guess is those are somewhere between 75-100 and 200-250.

Best information says the Zelig and Cutters Way may be the next clsoest


SAE Last Email updated:
ALAMO BAY (1985 - LOW QUANTITY
ALEXANDER THE GREAT (1956) - LOW QUANTITY
AMERICAN BUFFALO (1996) - LOW QUANTITY
ANASTASIA (1956) - LOW QUANTITY
APPASSIONATA (1974) - LOW QUANTITY
BORN FREE (1966) - LOW QUANTITY
BOXCAR BERTHA (1972) - LOW QUANTITY SOLD OUT
BRUTAL TALES OF CHIVALRY (AKA SHOWA ZANKYO-DEN / REGION A ONLY / 1965) - LOW QUANTITY
CHATO'S LAND (1972) - LOW QUANTITY
CUTTER'S WAY (1981) - LOW QUANTITY
EDGE OF ETERNITY (1959) - LOW QUANTITY
EXODUS (1960) - LOW QUANTITY
GRAN BOLLITO (BLACK JOURNAL / 1977) - LOW QUANTITY
INFERNO 3D/2D (1953) - LOW QUANTITY SOLD OUT
JULIA (1977) - LOW QUANTITY
MOSCOW ON THE HUDSON (1984) - LOW QUANTITY
PEYTON PLACE (1957) - LOW QUANTITY SOLD OUT
SENSE AND SENSIBILITY (1995) - LOW QUANTITY SOLD OUT
THE BOSTON STRANGLER (1968) - LOW QUANTITY
THE BRIDGE AT REMAGEN (1969) - LOW QUANTITY
THE EMPEROR IN AUGUST (NIHON NO ICHIBAN NAGAI HI KETTEIBAN / 2015 - REGION A ONLY) - LOW QUANTITY
THE HAPPY ENDING (1969) - LOW QUANTITY
THE VALACHI PAPERS (1972) - LOW QUANTITY
THEATRE OF BLOOD (1973) - LOW QUANTITY SOLD OUT
TONY ROME / LADY IN CEMENT (1967 / 1968) - LOW QUANTITY
ZELIG (1983) - LOW QUANTITY

EYE OF THE NEEDLE (1981) - VERY LOW QUANTITY SOLD OUT
COWBOY (1958) - VERY LOW QUANTITY SOLD OUT
FLAMING STAR (1960) - VERY LOW QUANTITY SOLD OUT

[drownsoda]

Originally Posted by thebalconyfool

So true. This happens to me all the time.

Ditto on this. For example, I came around to Leave Her to Heaven last year and fell in love with it--unfortunately, the TT disc was out of print and exorbitantly expensive. I was ecstatic when Criterion put out their new Blu-ray earlier this year, but we don't always have that saving grace. People find new films they're interested in or come to love all the time--I think this is true of anyone who collects them. There is definitely a panic-buy complex that occurs when we know something is going to be scarce (hence the toilet paper apocalypse this year), but I do think it's human nature to do this.

There's also prioritizing what you want to add to your library at a given time, and with that there are many variables: is it a die-hard favorite? Am I a casual fan? Want to own it but don't need it this second? Will it be available for the foreseeable future? Those are all things people consider. For example, I sat on getting the TT release of Peyton Place for a solid year or so because I had the DVD, which sufficed for the time being--instead, I focused on buying other films with my budget. When I read that TT was going under though, that changes the priority because I now know that in the near future I won't be able to get it for less than probably $50 or more once it's out of print. Of course I'm going to jump on it, be it the last minute or not. Just because people have had time to acquire some of these films doesn't mean there weren't valid reasons they didn't get them on the dot.