Twilight Time Discussion Thread

[jmclick]

April Love is no longer available on the Twilight Time website.

[Bates_Motel]

Originally Posted by BluProofie

Still no movement on my second order after two weeks. I hope that doesn’t mean I won’t get the titles that sold out later.

It's a shame those of us who put in an order day 1 right after the announcement are getting shafted for people who ordered later.

[RodChester]

Originally Posted by ShellBeacher

No, they mostly come out of Texas, I think. That's where my recent one did. Some even more devoted buyers here can clarify; I think we were just having this discussion last week.

Originally Posted by hariseldon

TTM ships out of Texas (Carrollton/Dallas)

SAE ship outs of Virginia -- near Linden

Well that’s a bummer. Who knows when my order will ship then.

[Reddington]

Originally Posted by hoytereden

I was also considering getting one of these in the next few days:



Any opinions of one of these over the other?

The L-Shaped Room is one of the great "Kitchen Sink" dramas. If you're interested in British Realism, it's essential.

[jayembee]

Originally Posted by AllAboutMatt

But Twilight Time's a boutique label, so they aren't limited by a certain studio. But, Warner might have kept a tight grip on it I guess...

They still couldn't just do any movie they feel like. They had to have a contractual arrangement with a given studio to release any of that studio's films, and to provide a master to replicate from. They did so with Fox, originally, and added Sony (Columbia, TriStar), MGM (UA, Orion, AIP), Universal (toward the end), and a few non-US companies.

They never had any such arrangement with Disney, Paramount, and Warner, and so couldn't do any of their movies. That said, they did one Warner-owned film: Heaven & Earth. Warner itself didn't want to do an edition (the film itself did poorly, and Warner didn't think it worth the effort), and Oliver Stone himself pushed Warner into letting TT do it.

[Rhylliam]

Originally Posted by BluProofie

Still no movement on my second order after two weeks. I hope that doesn’t mean I won’t get the titles that sold out later.

Same here. Day 15 now. 16 of the 24 items I ordered on the 10th now state they cannot be re-ordered.

[jshaide]

Originally Posted by Rhylliam

Same here. Day 15 now. 16 of the 24 items I ordered on the 10th now state they cannot be re-ordered.

Yeah, it seems a total mess on that end. Holy smokes.

I still haven't gotten any cancellations. Fingers crossed it stays that way.

[bdgking]

The Long Hot Summer is no longer available . It just sold out at SAE .

Really low quantities at SAE that should sell out very soon are :

Zelig
Rollerball
Alamo Bay
Gran Bollito
Cutters Way

All are almost gone over 50 but not by much

[hariseldon]

Originally Posted by bdgking

The Long Hot Summer is no longer available . It just sold out at SAE .

h

Went to cut teh grass and do some yardwork for a couple hrs with nothing below 50, come back and another one's gone.

Did anyone see it (or Manhattan Mystery yesterday) less than 50 before it was gone or was in one big 50+ whack?

[SeanJoyce]

I hope everybody who wanted The Long Hot Summer grabbed it...intoxicating, dumb summer fun.

[BagheeraMcGee]

Originally Posted by SeanJoyce

I hope everybody who wanted The Long Hot Summer grabbed it...intoxicating, dumb summer fun.

Glad I managed to snag it in my last order, which is scheduled to arrive tomorrow.

[TravisTylerBlack]

Originally Posted by SeanJoyce

I hope everybody who wanted The Long Hot Summer grabbed it...intoxicating, dumb summer fun.

It’s a semi-classic for sure! The picnic basket auction sequence was legendarily parodied in a standout episode of Gilmore Girls.

[trentdiesel]

Originally Posted by SeanJoyce

I hope everybody who wanted The Long Hot Summer grabbed it...intoxicating, dumb summer fun.

I did get it, thanks for the recommendation

[SeanJoyce]

Originally Posted by trentdiesel

I did get it, thanks for the recommendation

You watch it yet? Thoughts?

[Aclea]

Originally Posted by hoytereden

I was also considering getting one of these in the next few days:



Any opinions of one of these over the other?

The plot is basically Romeo and Juliet with sponge divers and a happy ending (albeit with more than a passing nod to screenwriter ‘Buzz’ Bezzerides’ Thieves’ Highway, with sponge boats replacing trucks), but Beneath the 12-Mile Reef managed a canny and well-timed mix of 1954’s then current obsessions to drive it to big box-office: diving, tourism, Robert Wagner in the days when he was Tom Cruise and the brand spanking new CinemaScope process – ‘The miracle you see without glasses!’ Part of that now long lost genre of working man’s pictures that was once the backbone and mainstay of the industry, it sets Gilbert Roland’s family of Greek sponge fishermen against Richard Boone’s clan of native Floridians who regard them as poachers on their turf as they both take bigger chances in search of their lucrative but increasingly elusive harvest. And, wouldn’t you know it, Robert Wagner’s young Greek-American Adonis falls for Terry Moore’s all-American Gwyneth, much to the anger of Peter Graves’ rival for her affections, leading to an escalation in the families’ rivalry that takes the film into vendetta territory that costs lives and threatens the young lovers, who escape to the deadly and treacherous 12-Mile Reef that has already killed SpongeBob Wagner’s brother… and yes, there is a giant octopus.

It has to be said that when we finally get to the 12-Mile Reef it fails to live up to its big buildup. It’s dangerous enough to satisfy the requirements of the story but the footage just doesn’t live up to the hype because there’s not much of a genuine sense of awe and wonder to it. No matter, there’s more than enough to enjoy, topped off with a stunning and incredibly atmospheric score by Bernard Herrmann that’s one of the very greatest ever written for any film, conjuring up the otherworldly foreboding mystery and majesty of the sea more effectively than anything that fills the wide, wide screen while subtly accompanying and enhancing rather than overpowering the film. The film may be superior hokum, but Herrmann’s masterpiece is pure poetry (parts of it, especially the cue The Marker, were regularly reused in Irwin Allen’s 60s scifi TV shows like Lost in Space). And there’s always Roland’s excessively macho dancing or the excited look on Mama’s face when he promises to say a ‘Big Hello’ to her later to put a smile on your face.

For years the film was plagued by particularly crappy panned-and-scanned Public Domain releases with washed out colour before Fox Archive finally released a widescreen version, albeit extras-free and only on manufactured on demand DVD-R. Twilight Time goes considerably better with their limited edition Blu-ray that makes that already impressive transfer look especially glorious in its original ratio with the vivid colours restored (and, in a few scenes, boosted a bit too much for that 'golden hour' look, leaving the cast with Trump-like complexions), throwing in an isolated score, 44-minute documentary on Wagner and booklet as well. A must for all those who grew up with CinemaScope eyes.

[78deluxe]

Has anyone actually contacted customer support for a response to the clear misinformation about shipping in the order received?

We have numerous reports of people after the first day of the sale getting orders shipped and received....but seems like a large number of us have day 1 orders that haven't even shipped yet.

Wouldn't be a big deal other than the cancellations that are also going out. So who had the guts to call TT out on it directly?

[trentdiesel]

Originally Posted by SeanJoyce

You watch it yet? Thoughts?

I will watch it on Wednesday, I'm pretty excited, not sure why I always dragged my feet on it. I've been guilty of many rewatches on films when I should have been watching ones i have not seen and expanding my horizons.

[hariseldon]

Originally Posted by jmclick

April Love is no longer available on the Twilight Time website.

Very strange -- I've still got 4 items listed and I can subtract and re-add to my cart.

I have it in a WishList with an ADD TO CART button active, but the site page is giving me an error when I click on the name -- it doesn't usually do that with an OOS item so something else appears screwed up. It's also not on the TT Titles list sorted by Price or Title

[hoytereden]

Originally Posted by Aclea

The plot is basically Romeo and Juliet with sponge divers and a happy ending (albeit with more than a passing nod to screenwriter ‘Buzz’ Bezzerides’ Thieves’ Highway, with sponge boats replacing trucks), but Beneath the 12-Mile Reef managed a canny and well-timed mix of 1954’s then current obsessions to drive it to big box-office: diving, tourism, Robert Wagner in the days when he was Tom Cruise and the brand spanking new CinemaScope process – ‘The miracle you see without glasses!’ Part of that now long lost genre of working man’s pictures that was once the backbone and mainstay of the industry, it sets Gilbert Roland’s family of Greek sponge fishermen against Richard Boone’s clan of native Floridians who regard them as poachers on their turf as they both take bigger chances in search of their lucrative but increasingly elusive harvest. And, wouldn’t you know it, Robert Wagner’s young Greek-American Adonis falls for Terry Moore’s all-American Gwyneth, much to the anger of Peter Graves’ rival for her affections, leading to an escalation in the families’ rivalry that takes the film into vendetta territory that costs lives and threatens the young lovers, who escape to the deadly and treacherous 12-Mile Reef that has already killed SpongeBob Wagner’s brother… and yes, there is a giant octopus.

It has to be said that when we finally get to the 12-Mile Reef it fails to live up to its big buildup. It’s dangerous enough to satisfy the requirements of the story but the footage just doesn’t live up to the hype because there’s not much of a genuine sense of awe and wonder to it. No matter, there’s more than enough to enjoy, topped off with a stunning and incredibly atmospheric score by Bernard Herrmann that’s one of the very greatest ever written for any film, conjuring up the otherworldly foreboding mystery and majesty of the sea more effectively than anything that fills the wide, wide screen while subtly accompanying and enhancing rather than overpowering the film. The film may be superior hokum, but Herrmann’s masterpiece is pure poetry (parts of it, especially the cue The Marker, were regularly reused in Irwin Allen’s 60s scifi TV shows like Lost in Space). And there’s always Roland’s excessively macho dancing or the excited look on Mama’s face when he promises to say a ‘Big Hello’ to her later to put a smile on your face.

For years the film was plagued by particularly crappy panned-and-scanned Public Domain releases with washed out colour before Fox Archive finally released a widescreen version, albeit extras-free and only on manufactured on demand DVD-R. Twilight Time goes considerably better with their limited edition Blu-ray that makes that already impressive transfer look especially glorious in its original ratio with the vivid colours restored (and, in a few scenes, boosted a bit too much for that 'golden hour' look, leaving the cast with Trump-like complexions), throwing in an isolated score, 44-minute documentary on Wagner and booklet as well. A must for all those who grew up with CinemaScope eyes.

[SeanJoyce]

Every time I go to purchase Beneath the 12-Mile Reef I read a review that makes me back off.

South Florida maritime locations with 50s Cinemascope sounds mouth-watering, but the reviews paint pictures of a movie without much of a pulse.

How's the giant octopus fight? Is there any exciting shark footage? It's another one I'm keeping my eye on over at SAE.