Twilight Time Discussion Thread

[ROclockCK]

Originally Posted by JoeDeM

I think of Cat Ballou as more main stream, than the Novak films, but I would take The Chase or Walk on the Wild Side as well.

"Was" more mainstream Joe. All of this stuff is vintage catalogue now, which, coming from SPHE, makes it fair game. But at TT's current rate of release there are only 12 SPHE slots available each year. Like Arkadin, I would rather see them go after the more lost, forgotten, or neglected titles first.

And before any of this other great stuff gets done, I still want to see more Harryhausen...especially First Men in the Moon!

[JoeDeM]

Originally Posted by ROclockCK

"Was" more mainstream Joe. All of this stuff is vintage catalogue now, which, coming from SPHE, makes it fair game. But at TT's current rate of release there are only 12 SPHE slots available each year. Like Arkadin, I would rather see them go after the more lost, forgotten, or neglected titles first.

And before any of this other great stuff gets done, I still want to see more Harryhausen...especially First Men in the Moon!

Given the choice First Men in the Moon would be my pick. By more mainstream I meant possible wider appeal.

[rkolinski]

I like what Screen Archives/Twilight Time is doing with respect to releases so I hope they will release any or all of the following:

From Here to Eternity
The Long Gray Line
Porgy and Bess
The Devil at 4 O'Clock
H.M.S. Defiant (aka Damn the Defiant)
Barabbas
The Long Ships
Fail-Safe
The Bedford Incident
The Heroes of Telemark
A Man for All Seasons
Guess Who's Coming to Dinner
Funny Girl
Nicholas and Alexandra
Butterflies Are Free
Young Winston
The Way We Were
The Stepford Wives (1975)
Funny Lady
The Wind and the Lion
Robin and Marian
The China Syndrome
1941
Christine
The Mark of Zorro
The Black Swan
The Gunfighter
Captain from Castile
Broken Arrow
No Highway in the Sky
With a Song in My Heart
Niagara
River of No Return
Three Coins in the Fountain
Broken Lance
Untamed
A Man Called Peter
Love is a Many-Splendored Thing
Oklahoma!
Carousel
The King and I
Bus Stop
Heaven Knows, Mr. Allison
The Enemy Below
The Fly
The Inn of the Sixth Happiness
Sink the Bismarck!
The Lost World
North to Alaska
Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea
Those Magnificent Men in Their Flying Machines
The Agony and the Ecstasy
The Flight of the Phoenix (the better one)
The Blue Max
Fantastic Voyage

[arcadeforest]

Originally Posted by rkolinski

I like what Screen Archives/Twilight Time is doing with respect to releases so I hope they will release any or all of the following:

[Show spoiler]From Here to Eternity
The Long Gray Line
Porgy and Bess
The Devil at 4 O'Clock
H.M.S. Defiant (aka Damn the Defiant)
Barabbas
The Long Ships
Fail-Safe
The Bedford Incident
The Heroes of Telemark
A Man for All Seasons
Guess Who's Coming to Dinner
Funny Girl
Nicholas and Alexandra
Butterflies Are Free
Young Winston
The Way We Were
The Stepford Wives (1975)
Funny Lady
The Wind and the Lion
Robin and Marian
The China Syndrome
1941
Christine
The Mark of Zorro
The Black Swan
The Gunfighter
Captain from Castile
Broken Arrow
No Highway in the Sky
With a Song in My Heart
Niagara
River of No Return
Three Coins in the Fountain
Broken Lance
Untamed
A Man Called Peter
Love is a Many-Splendored Thing
Oklahoma!
Carousel
The King and I
Bus Stop
Heaven Knows, Mr. Allison
The Enemy Below
The Fly
The Inn of the Sixth Happiness
Sink the Bismarck!
The Lost World
North to Alaska
Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea
Those Magnificent Men in Their Flying Machines
The Agony and the Ecstasy
The Flight of the Phoenix (the better one)
The Blue Max
Fantastic Voyage

Some good titles on that list - would love to see Robin and Marion.

[oildude]

Originally Posted by rkolinski

I like what Screen Archives/Twilight Time is doing with respect to releases so I hope they will release any or all of the following:

[Show spoiler]From Here to Eternity
The Long Gray Line
Porgy and Bess
The Devil at 4 O'Clock
H.M.S. Defiant (aka Damn the Defiant)
Barabbas
The Long Ships
Fail-Safe
The Bedford Incident
The Heroes of Telemark
A Man for All Seasons
Guess Who's Coming to Dinner
Funny Girl
Nicholas and Alexandra
Butterflies Are Free
Young Winston
The Way We Were
The Stepford Wives (1975)
Funny Lady
The Wind and the Lion
Robin and Marian
The China Syndrome
1941
Christine
The Mark of Zorro
The Black Swan
The Gunfighter
Captain from Castile
Broken Arrow
No Highway in the Sky
With a Song in My Heart
Niagara
River of No Return
Three Coins in the Fountain
Broken Lance
Untamed
A Man Called Peter
Love is a Many-Splendored Thing
Oklahoma!
Carousel
The King and I
Bus Stop
Heaven Knows, Mr. Allison
The Enemy Below
The Fly
The Inn of the Sixth Happiness
Sink the Bismarck!
The Lost World
North to Alaska
Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea
Those Magnificent Men in Their Flying Machines
The Agony and the Ecstasy
The Flight of the Phoenix (the better one)
The Blue Max
Fantastic Voyage

Nice list. Many of my most wanted titles are on there. Add King of the Khyber Rifles and Samuel Fuller's China Gate and our lists would be nearly identical. China Gate is definitely in my top three most wanted Fox titles.

[rkolinski]

Originally Posted by oildude

[/SPOILER]

Nice list. Many of my most wanted titles are on there. Add King of the Khyber Rifles and Samuel Fuller's China Gate and our lists would be nearly identical. China Gate is definitely in my top three most wanted Fox titles.

I've never seen "China Gate" but do agree with you about "King of the Khyber Rifles." In fact, that is the only Tyrone Power film where I own an original one-sheet movie poster!

[jaaguir]

Originally Posted by Arkadin

Titanic (1953) got cancelled?
please tell me that is not true.
btw: I thought the pre-orders for the April releases were going up later today, but now I don't see anything that mentions that. anyone know what the scoop is?

Now it's a Best Buy exclusive. Release date still stands.

Originally Posted by ROclockCK

Fox will continue licensing to TT because they're doing mostly 'lost in the vault' titles that the studio had no intention of releasing anyway...at any unit level or price point. I mean who, other than 'core collectors, would seriously want to own Blu-rays of movies like Rapture, Swamp Water, Roots of Heaven, or The Wayward Bus? Big Box and Online Retailers alike would laugh Fox right out of the office if they tried to pitch upcoming retail releases for any of those titles.

Interesting about that Titanic (1953) cancellation jaaguir (as of this morning, it's vanished from my Amazon wish list without even casual mention why), and very suspicious about the *coincidence* of the timing. After all, Titanic is another Fox Studio Classics title, just like the first two offerings via SAE. So no need to guess where that one is going now...

If TT is smart, they'll just hold the course and keep doing what they've already been doing so well. In a curious kind of 'upside', Fox' decision to take these catalogue *exclusives* to SAE in advance of general release merely increases traffic to the site and legitimizes SAE in the eyes of holdout buyers, which, by association, ups the visibility and credibility of TT's own limited editions.

The one thing I don't get about this whole issue is the pricing. I mean, the list price for Fox's other exclusive deals (Walmart, Best Buy) is $25. And the retailers are selling them with a discount, even cheaper (especially Walmart). But with SAE, they choose the $30 price tag? Why? Because people are already paying that for the TT titles and it's working well? It's annoying.

Also, I wondered, if "The grapes of wrath" is really going wide in June, shouldn't Amazon's own pre-order page be up soon? Then we would know for sure what to believe.

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by jaaguir

The one thing I don't get about this whole issue is the pricing. I mean, the list price for Fox's other exclusive deals (Walmart, Best Buy) is $25. And the retailers are selling them with a discount, even cheaper (especially Walmart). But with SAE, they choose the $30 price tag? Why? Because people are already paying that for the TT titles and it's working well? It's annoying.

You think TT also have a business where they also sell car stereos, boomboxes, and the like? BB & WM sell them at those prices because they can afford to.

Why even compare?

In any case TT also offers a great transfer, isolated soundtrack, and professional liner notes.

[Arkadin]

he's talking about the Fox SAE exclusives. Those are not TT titles so they will not have the isolated score, etc.
He's making the point that those Fox titles are priced at $30 and will likely be much lower once they go wide.
that's what is kind of strange. a $30 price tag for only 2 months of exclusivity.
and the BB Titanic exclusive is only $19.99.
why are the SAE Fox exclusives $10 more for similar type films?
(both part of the Fox studio classics dvd line, as is Titanic)

[rezpekt]

Originally Posted by Arkadin

why are the SAE Fox exclusives $10 more for similar type films?
(both part of the Fox studio classics dvd line, as is Titanic)

Because SAE sells them at MSRP while big stores discount 30-60%.

[Arkadin]

yeah, I guess that about covers it.
btw:I pre-ordered my copy of Titanic earlier today.
now I have to go order my copy of The Big Trail from Wal-Mart.com
(exclusives are such a pain in the a^&)

[bluskies]

I watched Picnic and they did a great job.

[BluBonnet]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

In any case TT also offers a great transfer, isolated soundtrack, and professional liner notes.

If only all classic catalog titles were released on blu that way....

[dlevine]

Bell, Book & Candle and Picnic are going to be my first Twilight Time releases. I ordered the two over the weekend and can't wait to see these two movies again. I saw both of them on TCM and loved Bell, Book... and wasn't too impressed with Picnic, but I'm sure I need to give it a second chance.

[JoeDeM]

Originally Posted by dlevine

Bell, Book & Candle and Picnic are going to be my first Twilight Time releases. I ordered the two over the weekend and can't wait to see these two movies again. I saw both of them on TCM and loved Bell, Book... and wasn't too impressed with Picnic, but I'm sure I need to give it a second chance.

You're going to have to pick up Pal Joey next, just to complete the Novak collection

[bboisvert]

Just got my package with Demetrius and Bite the Bullet.

Magnet fans are going to be disappointed with this batch.

[dlevine]

Originally Posted by JoeDeM

You're going to have to pick up Pal Joey next, just to complete the Novak collection

I know! That's next on my list. That's a great film as well.

[jaaguir]

Originally Posted by Arkadin

he's talking about the Fox SAE exclusives. Those are not TT titles so they will not have the isolated score, etc.
He's making the point that those Fox titles are priced at $30 and will likely be much lower once they go wide.
that's what is kind of strange. a $30 price tag for only 2 months of exclusivity.
and the BB Titanic exclusive is only $19.99.
why are the SAE Fox exclusives $10 more for similar type films?
(both part of the Fox studio classics dvd line, as is Titanic)

That's want I meant, yes, thanks.

Originally Posted by rezpekt

Because SAE sells them at MSRP while big stores discount 30-60%.

No, in my previous posted I already noted that the MSRP for the BestBuy exclusives is $25. Then they add a discount to that. The SAE Fox exclusives are priced $30 (and of course there's no added discount). That seems "unfair" to me, is all I was saying.


I starting to think maybe there's some misunderstanding with the wide release date. I believe SAE stated they were getting 2 new Fox exclusives each month. That would mean that eventually Fox would be releasing 2 old movies on blu-ray each month wide too. Plus their other exclusives. That sounds strange to me, it's a pretty steep schedule, big studios haven't done that until now on blu-ray, ever. Not even Warner nor MGM (maybe the most active studios with catalog) release that many.

[BluBonnet]

Originally Posted by jaaguir

No, in my previous posted I already noted that the MSRP for the BestBuy exclusives is $25. Then they add a discount to that. The SAE Fox exclusives are priced $30 (and of course there's no added discount). That seems "unfair" to me, is all I was saying.

No offense, but one might as well say that they think capitalism is "unfair". We live in a capitalist society, we have to take the good with the bad... imho.

[benbess]

Got Demetrius + Bite the Bullet today. Not sure when I'll have a chance to watch, but I'm looking forward to them. They were both blind buys for me...