Twilight Time Discussion Thread

[PuppetMasterBlu]

Originally Posted by CastrosfriendChe

Just a question out of curiosity...and sorry, it's surely been answered numerous times before. Does TT individually number the cases 1-3000 for each release?

No they decided it would cost too much.

[Brian81]

Sorry if I'm not following closely, but SA has eliminated the cart trick for copies in stock/available? Nooo. I actually like it as I have a tendency to put off purchasing titles I want until the last possible minute.

[BillieCassin]

Originally Posted by iamnoone

Agree 100%, and I said pretty much the same thing in one of the other TT movie threads. If this is a calculated move by SAE and TT to hide the number of copies left on their titles, it's probably going to backfire on them. Discussion will go down considerably, and although they may think hiding the numbers will make everyone race to buy one fast, I think it will have the exact opposite effect as no one will know and lose interest.

I've been a TT defender all the way, I actually still am and have bought a LOT of their Blus and will still support them 100%, but this move to hide the numbers (if it WAS a planned move by TT and SAE) could be a sign of that "I hate the customer" attitude so many people have insinuated before. Hopefully, it's just a glitch and the numbers will return. Personally, I buy all the ones I want right away anyway so no sweat there, but there will be far less discussion and talk about their label or any of their titles if the numbers remain hidden.

/sigh

They are danged if they do, danged if they don't.

It's hardly, HARDLY a case of "I hate the customer" to fix what was obviously a glitch/bug in their website. If it was meant to give you a countdown, they would give a countdown, not through some backdoor trick known only to a small segment of folks.

To be honest, I think this, coupled with their limit of 1 per person, was done precisely to prevent reselling at higher prices. I am sure their metrics showed that people were buying them up at that point, knowing it was about to sell out - leading to folks buying up multiples for resale knowing that it was about to sell out and they would be able to make a profit soon by getting the remaining stock (even once the limit of 1 was put in, even paying separate shipping and ordering multiples would still net them $ once a title sells out).

Preventing this extends the availability on their site - which again, I think shows that they are more interested in making these available to fans vs. trying to make a quick buck, not caring who buys them out as long as they sell and they make the $ as quickly as possible.

In general, they get so much crap for the 3K limit, but I think a lot of people don't take into account how attractive that is for the studios, which is why their licensing deal is what it is, and what they are able to do with it. To the studio, it's a great deal - they get a one-time payment for pretty much doing nothing, don't have to track anything after, and keeping the limit low means the market isn't flooded with copies of a title, preserving their interest in a title should they wish to distribute it wider, later. This is one reason I find the, "If TT didn't release it, some other company would" a false assumption - no other boutique label is willing to take on all the risk of selling a title, making one large lump payment, and keeping distribution so limited.

All this adds up to - I know, it's shocking to even THINK - that TT is doing exactly what they say they are - trying to make films that, currently, the studios have no interest in releasing, available to fans to buy on Blu-ray. These are just measures to make sure more fans get the films directly, and reduce the number of people who buy them up just for profit.

But I know...we are so used to not getting the truth from companies, we never think that, just maybe, one is telling the truth. It's almost impossible to believe, but in this case - I think it may actually be true.

[DrexlerMcStyles]

Does TT announce details, cover art, etc. BEFORE the pre-order? Or is that when you get all that stuff; when the pre-order goes up? Also, how much do they charge for shipping?

[wormraper]

Originally Posted by DrexlerMcStyles

Does TT announce details, cover art, etc. BEFORE the pre-order? Or is that when you get all that stuff; when the pre-order goes up? Also, how much do they charge for shipping?

around $5 for one title and it goes up incrementally if you order multiple titles (say $6.95 for 3 titles)

[baheidstu]

Originally Posted by BillieCassin

/sigh

They are danged if they do, danged if they don't.

It's hardly, HARDLY a case of "I hate the customer" to fix what was obviously a glitch/bug in their website. If it was meant to give you a countdown, they would give a countdown, not through some backdoor trick known only to a small segment of folks.

To be honest, I think this, coupled with their limit of 1 per person, was done precisely to prevent reselling at higher prices. I am sure their metrics showed that people were buying them up at that point, knowing it was about to sell out - leading to folks buying up multiples for resale knowing that it was about to sell out and they would be able to make a profit soon by getting the remaining stock (even once the limit of 1 was put in, even paying separate shipping and ordering multiples would still net them $ once a title sells out).

Preventing this extends the availability on their site - which again, I think shows that they are more interested in making these available to fans vs. trying to make a quick buck, not caring who buys them out as long as they sell and they make the $ as quickly as possible.

In general, they get so much crap for the 3K limit, but I think a lot of people don't take into account how attractive that is for the studios, which is why their licensing deal is what it is, and what they are able to do with it. To the studio, it's a great deal - they get a one-time payment for pretty much doing nothing, don't have to track anything after, and keeping the limit low means the market isn't flooded with copies of a title, preserving their interest in a title should they wish to distribute it wider, later. This is one reason I find the, "If TT didn't release it, some other company would" a false assumption - no other boutique label is willing to take on all the risk of selling a title, making one large lump payment, and keeping distribution so limited.

All this adds up to - I know, it's shocking to even THINK - that TT is doing exactly what they say they are - trying to make films that, currently, the studios have no interest in releasing, available to fans to buy on Blu-ray. These are just measures to make sure more fans get the films directly, and reduce the number of people who buy them up just for profit.

But I know...we are so used to not getting the truth from companies, we never think that, just maybe, one is telling the truth. It's almost impossible to believe, but in this case - I think it may actually be true.

Telling the truth about what? This is all just your rampant speculation, as is other people's comments about them deliberately trying to hide the numbers for whatever reason. Unless someone can post an answer directly from SAE or TT, nobody knows why the numbers are now limited to fifty - whether it was a deliberate move or some adjustments to their software. Nobody is a villian here or a hero, it just is what it is.

[wormraper]

obviously a glitch in their system Billie? sorry but MOST major retailers you can play the cart game. you can do it on amazon all the time. it's basically keeping track of real time sales so they don't oversell.

[JoeDeM]

Originally Posted by DrexlerMcStyles

Does TT announce details, cover art, etc. BEFORE the pre-order? Or is that when you get all that stuff; when the pre-order goes up? Also, how much do they charge for shipping?

usually a few weeks to a month before the pre-order they post specs and cover art on Facebook, and usually it's posted here the same day.

[DrexlerMcStyles]

Originally Posted by JoeDeM

usually a few weeks to a month before the pre-order they post specs and cover art on Facebook, and usually it's posted here the same day.

Hhmmm. Bring Me The Head of Alfredo Garcia should be up for pre-order in about 2 weeks and nothing so far...

[PuppetMasterBlu]

Originally Posted by DrexlerMcStyles

Also, how much do they charge for shipping?

$4.30 if you live in the US.

[iamnoone]

The 50-cart situation applies to everything for sale on SAE, not just the TT titles. So there's a very good chance this has nothing to do with TT, and is simply a new way SAE is showing their inventory.

[PuppetMasterBlu]

Originally Posted by iamnoone

The 50-cart situation applies to everything for sale on SAE, not just the TT titles. So there's a very good chance this has nothing to do with TT, and is simply a new way SAE is showing their inventory.

Another brilliant move by that company.

[rock, stone]

Originally Posted by iamnoone

The 50-cart situation applies to everything for sale on SAE, not just the TT titles. So there's a very good chance this has nothing to do with TT, and is simply a new way SAE is showing their inventory.

For a website that looks, and often acts, like it is from 2002, I would be surprised if the thing that they went out of their way to spend time fixing is the "cart game".

I can understand people's frustration though. The idea that we had a general idea about how something was selling gave a reassuring (if imagined) sense of control over our place in the TT food chain.

[Imrahil2001]

Originally Posted by DrexlerMcStyles

Hhmmm. Bring Me The Head of Alfredo Garcia should be up for pre-order in about 2 weeks and nothing so far...

Well, Graeme Garden will be happy to hear it.

[cmleidi]

On their facebook, they have up the covers and specs for BRING ME THE HEAD OF ALFREDO GARCIA and EQUUS.

[erlinmeyer]

Originally Posted by cmleidi

On their facebook, they have up the covers and specs for BRING ME THE HEAD OF ALFREDO GARCIA and EQUUS.

and the thread here has Alfredo Garcia https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...58#post8723558

[Aclea]

Originally Posted by Imrahil2001

Well, Graeme Garden will be happy to hear it.

But when will they Bring Me the Rest of Alfredo Garcia?

[bwdowiak]

I'm not exactly a Kim Novak fan, per se, but my curiosity has piqued regarding some of her other major films. I'd love to give Picnic and Bell, Book, and Candle a chance, but probably not at $35 a pop for the Twilight Time blu-ray.

Anybody have any opinions on the 5 movie Kim Novak DVD set that Sony put out in 2010? The reviews for it around the web are pretty good... color is supposed to be good and the aspect ratios and whatnot are correct.

How about the films themselves? I have seen NONE of the 5.

Pal Joey, Picnic, Bell, Book, and Candle, Jeanne Eagels, Middle of the Night

[Scottie]

Originally Posted by bwdowiak

I'm not exactly a Kim Novak fan, per se, but my curiosity has piqued regarding some of her other major films. I'd love to give Picnic and Bell, Book, and Candle a chance, but probably not at $35 a pop for the Twilight Time blu-ray.

Anybody have any opinions on the 5 movie Kim Novak DVD set that Sony put out in 2010? The reviews for it around the web are pretty good... color is supposed to be good and the aspect ratios and whatnot are correct.

How about the films themselves? I have seen NONE of the 5.

Pal Joey, Picnic, Bell, Book, and Candle, Jeanne Eagels, Middle of the Night

Bell, Book, and Candle is a really light film. I thought it was beautifully shot, but I didn't fall in love with the stories like others may have.

Think of it as a romance film centered around magic. If you are into those kind of films, I'd definitely encourage you to get it.

[Hank the Tank]

Does TT Have the Blu rights to the 1978 disco classic "Thank God It's Friday"?
http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/thank-...JmMQR2dGlkAw--