Twilight Time Discussion Thread

[Dex Robinson]

Originally Posted by johnny

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I buy 4-5 at a time, always boxed safely and with Care. I couldn't care less about the Eco-cases ...

That simply isn't realistic for the vast majority of people.

I'm also in Canada and I have about 15 Twilight Time discs.

Ordering 3, 4 or 5 discs at a time is an extremely impractical and expensive solution for a nickel and dime problem.

As you well know, the cost of getting even 3 TT discs to Canada is over $100.00. Go up to 5 discs and you're getting closer $170.00 (and that's not including the exchange rate which pushes 5 discs a lot closer to $200.00CDN.)

If I had that kind of money to spend, I wouldn't worry about eco-cases either. I'd just order BDs in large quantites at a time and get them boxed. Maybe I'm the poor man out. I don't know about the rest of the Blu-ray buyers in the world but I suspect that most of us can't drop one or two hundred bucks per order.

Furthermore, even if I was sufficiently well-heeled to afford that kind of consumption, I doubt if I could find 3, 4 or 5 BDs that I wanted from Twilight Time every time I placed an order.

A simple, solid case is the cheap, easy and fair solution. I say "fair" because it allows us average BD fans to buy one or two discs at a time and have them safely shipped in envelopes. People who have money can always find ways to work around their "problems". If someone has enough money to order 4 or 5 Twilight Time discs at one time, I'm sure they can find a couple of bucks for matching cases. Those of us who don't have big money would appreciate the minor consideration of a solid, standard BD case.

And, again, I want to acknowledge my appreciation of Twilight Time for granting us that consideration.

[octagon]

Originally Posted by iamnoone

Maybe I'll go outside instead, take a hike up the hill, breathe some fresh air, play with the dog, and just enjoy the day.

Or you could stare at a monitor and mutter 'these kids today...'.

[popeflick]

Haters gonna hate.

I'm glad it's been a few pages since shots have been taken at Kirgo, that just shows the depths to which the haters will stoop to malign a company that is trying their best to provide hi quality encodes of films.

Before I'm labelled an apologist -again- the shipping delays from SAE aren't really excusable by and large as many complaints don't involve autographed copies and is something that does need to be rectified post haste.

[Blu-ray Neo]

Originally Posted by popeflick

Haters gonna hate.

I'm glad it's been a few pages since shots have been taken at Kirgo, that just shows the depths to which the haters will stoop to malign a company that is trying their best to provide hi quality encodes of films.

Titus anyone?

[johnny]

Originally Posted by Dex Robinson

That simply isn't realistic for the vast majority of people.

I'm also in Canada and I have about 15 Twilight Time discs.

Ordering 3, 4 or 5 discs at a time is an extremely impractical and expensive solution for a nickel and dime problem.

As you well know, the cost of getting even 3 TT discs to Canada is over $100.00. Go up to 5 discs and you're getting closer $170.00 (and that's not including the exchange rate which pushes 5 discs a lot closer to $200.00CDN.)

If I had that kind of money to spend, I wouldn't worry about eco-cases either. I'd just order BDs in large quantites at a time and get them boxed. Maybe I'm the poor man out. I don't know about the rest of the Blu-ray buyers in the world but I suspect that most of us can't drop one or two hundred bucks per order.

Furthermore, even if I was sufficiently well-heeled to afford that kind of consumption, I doubt if I could find 3, 4 or 5 BDs that I wanted from Twilight Time every time I placed an order.

A simple, solid case is the cheap, easy and fair solution. I say "fair" because it allows us average BD fans to buy one or two discs at a time and have them safely shipped in envelopes. People who have money can always find ways to work around their "problems". If someone has enough money to order 4 or 5 Twilight Time discs at one time, I'm sure they can find a couple of bucks for matching cases. Those of us who don't have big money would appreciate the minor consideration of a solid, standard BD case.

And, again, I want to acknowledge my appreciation of Twilight Time for granting us that consideration.

Impractical and unrealistic? I choose to buy 4 at a time (5 only with FREE Auto. Copy) because...get this....I actually want to own the Movies! and I'm not even rich! I'm just a Movie Fanatic (Mostly Golden & Silver Age) and it is much more practical and less expensive to order more Disc's at one time, You are getting a Shipping "Discount" it cost Me $11.80 Sh. for "ALL" 5 Blu-rays, if I order 1 at a time it is $8 per Blu-ray, that's a heck of a saving! I'm happy for You that You'll get the Infiniti case that You desire, In the long run a Case is a Case, soul purpose is for storing, I just want the Movie. I think You would be very surprised as to how many People buy 3+, just think of the 100+ in the first few minutes of a Autographed Copy Offer! Not fair to judge People by the quantity they purchase, I'll be doing the same in Future, I'm absolutely pumped for the upcoming Titles!!
Yes the $29.95 TT Titles are expensive and the exchange rate sucks for Canadians, but we are all given a choice if We want to buy or not, I buy because simply I want to own and add these Titles to My Collection so I don't complain about prices, etc. because in the end it's My choice and I'm happy with it.

[Blu Titan]

Originally Posted by popeflick

Haters gonna hate.

I'm glad it's been a few pages since shots have been taken at Kirgo, that just shows the depths to which the haters will stoop to malign a company that is trying their best to provide hi quality encodes of films.

Before I'm labelled an apologist -again- the shipping delays from SAE aren't really excusable by and large as many complaints don't involve autographed copies and is something that does need to be rectified post haste.

Offensive posts need to be reported. I did not see anyone posting anything offensive about Ms Kirgo. Someone mentioned that they would like to see, once in a while, another person writing the movie notes that accompany the releases Obviously, people can post regarding their preferences.

[Dex Robinson]

Originally Posted by johnny

... In the long run a Case is a Case, soul purpose is for storing...

The problem is that "storing" is NOT the soul (sole) purpose of case.

This was something I discussed dozens of pages ago.

A case is a shipping vessel. It is the last line of defense between the disc and exterior threats: pressure, abrasion, shock, puncture and cuts during it's journey from warehouse to end-user. An eco case puts nothing solid between the disc surface and those threats. Surely you have read the recent posts here about discs arriving in shattered eco cases?

For those of us who can't order order large quantities of discs with each retailer (and I would contend that is the vast majority of us), A proper BD case is the simple, fair, reasonable solution to the problem.

This is not an excessive demand. For the first several years of Blu-ray, ALL discs came in solid cases. Most still come in standard solid cases. I just checked the last half dozen Blu-rays that I've purchased from SCREAM, SONY, WARNER BROTHERS and BLUE UNDERGROUND and they all came in solid cases.

So I'm not making some radical request by promoting the preservation of the solid case. I'm saying the Blu-ray case design of 2007 was perfect and doesn't need to be "fixed". It worked great seven years ago and it works great today. Keep using it.

[popeflick]

Originally Posted by Blu Titan

Offensive posts need to be reported. I did not see anyone posting anything offensive about Ms Kirgo. Someone mentioned that they would like to see, once in a while, another person writing the movie notes that accompany the releases Obviously, people can post regarding their preferences.

Well I'm not a narc. I just call out in threads and don't mind being called out if I'm in the wrong. But a few pages back people were comaining about her "snarky" notes and the "flimsy paper" they were printed on. Not personal at all but simply complaining to complain - making stuff up simply to ***** about something.

And to the response a few above this re Titus, I don't own the BD but my understanding is that it's a 1080i transfer provided by the studio. It's the encoding of the transfers they keep hi quality - they cannot control the source.

[Blu Titan]

Originally Posted by popeflick

Well I'm not a narc. I just call out in threads and don't mind being called out if I'm in the wrong. But a few pages back people were comaining about her "snarky" notes and the "flimsy paper" they were printed on. Not personal at all but simply complaining to complain - making stuff up simply to ***** about something.

And to the response a few above this re Titus, I don't own the BD but my understanding is that it's a 1080i transfer provided by the studio. It's the encoding of the transfers they keep hi quality - they cannot control the source.

Well that is not a big deal at all. We can't be hyper sensitive about things. People complain about all kids of stuff and it's not just in this thread. People posting silly things only make themselves look silly. If the topic has moved on from that, there's no use in bringing it back up again .

[popeflick]

Originally Posted by Blu Titan

Well that is not a big deal at all. We can't be hyper sensitive about things. People complain about all kids of stuff and it's not just in this thread. People posting silly things only make themselves look silly. If the topic has moved on from that, there's no use in bringing it back up again .

Fine by me. But the extent of things a people will complain about regarding TT seems endless and most is pretty unfair. Glad you guys agree.

[Blu Titan]

Originally Posted by popeflick

Fine by me. But the extent of things a people will complain about regarding TT seems endless and most is pretty unfair. Glad you guys agree.

TT indeed was ground zero for back and forths but I believe it has claimed down quite a bit. Obviously, the issues with shipping over at SAE caused a stir . Believe me, I look at countless posts in many movie threads (not just here but in other places as well) and there's always someone who will complain (justly or not).

Personally, the thing that gets to me is when some random screenshot gets ripped and posted somewhere and right then and there some "expert" declares a disaster of some sort or they reference Caps-a-holic (or something like that) a place notorious for picking one problematic spot and posting a still of it...from there many assume that a transfer is bad or there are serious issues with it....that is annoying.

[popeflick]

Originally Posted by Blu Titan

TT indeed was ground zero for back and forths but I believe it has claimed down quite a bit. Obviously, the issues with shipping over at SAE caused a stir . Believe me, I look at countless posts in many movie threads (not just here but in other places as well) and there's always someone who will complain (justly or not).

Personally, the thing that gets to me is when some random screenshot gets ripped and posted somewhere and right then and there some "expert" declares a disaster of some sort or they reference Caps-a-holic (or something like that) a place notorious for picking one problematic spot and posting a still of it...from there many assume that a transfer is bad or there are serious issues with it....that is annoying.

I'm a HUGE fan of the picture of someone's tv and The Transfer Debate breaking out based on a shot from an uncalibrated monitor. That's the best!

[Zoodles95]

Originally Posted by johnny

Am I in the Minority? Being from Canada I'm used to purchasing Blu-rays from the States and waiting anywhere from 2-4 weeks for items to arrive (Mainly Ebay), I virtually own every TT Blu-ray that has been sold by S.A.E. and I couldn't care less how long it takes to get to Me, just as long as I get them (Which is always).
I buy 4-5 at a time, always boxed safely and with Care. I couldn't care less about the Eco-cases since My Blu-ray Collection has Hundreds of similar Cases which seem to be the norm nowadays. Now we will be getting the Infiniti Cases which are stronger but are different in Shape/Form than the previous Elite, so if You like to showcase Your TT Blu-rays on a Shelf they will look different than the past purchases.
I'd like to come and visit and see more positive comments, why is everyone in such a hurry??? You will eventually get your product, watch it and most probably be happy.

Perhaps those in the US have had much better postal service in the past than we are used to up here in the frozen north. This came yesterday which was pretty much three weeks after my order which is the norm for most Blus I order from the US. This time they not only put the Blus into a box and bubble wrapped them but this time they went to the trouble of sealing the bubble wrap whereas it had previously been tapped,


Four seems to be the best way for me to order TT titles now. The shipping works out less per disc than most US based sellers I buy from.

I am looking forward to watching all of these:

[Blu-Velvet]

Originally Posted by Blu-ray Neo

Titus anyone?

TITUS perhaps might have looked better but still looks fine overall, at least so it seemed projected four feet tall by over nine feet wide (and of course the film itself is pretty amazing). A few softish shots here and there and occasional minor wear on the print that was scanned. I'd probably rate it 4 out of 5 for PQ, perhaps 3.5/5 in some shots. Many if not most Universal transfers don't even come close (although they seem to have improved somewhat lately).

[Zoodles95]

Originally Posted by Blu-Velvet

TITUS perhaps might have looked better but still looks fine overall, at least so it seemed projected four feet tall by over nine feet wide (and of course the film itself is pretty amazing). A few softish shots here and there and occasional minor wear on the print that was scanned. I'd probably rate it 4 out of 5 for PQ, perhaps 3.5/5 in some shots. Many if not most Universal transfers don't even come close (although they seem to have improved somewhat lately).

Although I do not own this TT title (and it is one I am thinking about); I would rather have evidence of print damage etc than excessive DNR.

[filmmusic]

Originally Posted by Zoodles95

I am looking forward to watching all of these:

I wish I could afford Picnic too in this last sale!
I saw it a couple of years ago, and it was a great surprise!

[Addi-blu-ction]

Anyone receive a shipping notice for Used Cars/Wild at Heart yet?

[Seymour]

Originally Posted by Addi-blu-ction

Anyone receive a shipping notice for Used Cars/Wild at Heart yet?

Didn't someone say (in this thread) that they weren't going to ship until after the 8th?

[evoxturbo]

Originally Posted by Seymour

Didn't someone say (in this thread) that they weren't going to ship until after the 8th?

Yes because Screen Archives has not received the movies yet because of Cinaram not making them yet due to their busy schedule of making other films.

[kuro_sawa]

Originally Posted by evoxturbo

Yes because Screen Archives has not received the movies yet because of Cinaram not making them yet due to their busy schedule of making other films.

lol