Twilight Time Discussion Thread

[octagon]

Originally Posted by whitesheik

I have never EVER returned a non-defective item. For what reason? I bought it and that's that. Sorry, that's the world I live in and I like it here. You live in the world of entitlement. I don't know your age, but if I had to hazard a guess based on this attitude, I would guess young rather than old, i.e. different values for different generations.

If 50 is the new 30 I'll be 29 for another month or so.

Want to guess my weight now?

[ROclockCK]

Originally Posted by Blu Titan

High Time interests me but I need to do some research about the movie itself as I am not familiar with it.

Well, it's early Blake Edwards, if that helps Blu Titan.

I never saw High Time theatrically, just on TV during the late 60s - and only once at that - crudely panned and scanned in lacklustre black and white (more like gray and less gray). Considering how little I can recall about it, this will effectively be a brand new movie experience for me.

[Pirate King]

Originally Posted by Blu Titan

Well, something that irks me is when I read of someone making a purchase decision based on screen caps (whether from here or somewhere else). Film is made to be seen in motion and that is the only way that PQ can be evaluated. Sure, I look at caps once in a while just out of curiosity, but I have yet to see screen captures that match what I see in my tv .

Exactly !!

[arcadeforest]

Originally Posted by Blu Titan

Well, something that irks me is when I read of someone making a purchase decision based on screen caps (whether from here or somewhere else). Film is made to be seen in motion and that is the only way that PQ can be evaluated. Sure, I look at caps once in a while just out of curiosity, but I have yet to see screen captures that match what I see in my tv .

I agree as well.

[Arkadin]

Originally Posted by ROclockCK

Well, it's early Blake Edwards, if that helps Blu Titan.

I never saw High Time theatrically, just on TV during the late 60s - and only once at that - crudely panned and scanned in lacklustre black and white (more like gray and less gray). Considering how little I can recall about it, this will effectively be a brand new movie experience for me.

It will be even more of an experience because all the clips I see on YT are in color.

[SolidBlu]

already pre-ordered high time and bye bye birdie

[Blu Titan]

I will have to pick up High Times when I order TMMATFM. Between the Criterion sale (BN), Kino sale (importscds) and the BB Upgrade and save, I have over 20 movies that I need to see...my discretionary funds for blu-ray purchases are dwindling .

[rock, stone]

Man, I don't understand what it is about TT that incites these bouts of hyperbole.

[ROclockCK]

Originally Posted by Arkadin

It will be even more of an experience because all the clips I see on YT are in color.

Yep. That's what I'm freely admitting Arkadin. I really haven't seen this movie in anything close to its original colour and scope form. It will be as much of blind buy curiosity for me as many others here...

[oildude]

Originally Posted by octagon

Want to guess my weight now?

332 lbs.

333 lbs with a Criterion blu-ray in each hand.

[BluBonnet]

Originally Posted by rock, stone

Man, I don't understand what it is about TT that incites these bouts of hyperbole.

Perhaps the limited availability elicits bouts of hyperbole?

[#Darren]

Originally Posted by Dex Robinson

That's my seventh order to arrive safely from Screen Archives in standard mail.

Not that that is really a great achievement. I have had hundreds on international orders and never had one go MIA.

[#Darren]

Well why wouldn't they get scared? SA basically tells there customers int post is going missing A LOT and that they will not honor order without the extra charge. Doesn't create an environment of trust.

Originally Posted by Dex Robinson

That's what Screen Archives would have us believe!

If you order from Canada or most of the world outside the U.S., You get a scary warning window at the Screen Archives websites saying that, "...a large number of packages go missing in your country" and they WON'T replace them unless you use the registered or expedited mail. Registered mail to Canada is $15.00 and expedited is $25.00.

Many people see that warning box and are SCARED into thinking they must use one of the registered services. I don't. I just use regular post for $4.60.

I just want people to know that regular mail is a generally safe method and I've never had a package go missing.

[#Darren]

Originally Posted by octagon

Could he have returned it after watching it?

Aren't his choices roll the dice and hope it's worth what he already paid or send it back unopened?

I think he is within his rights - particularly if her pre ordered it. Better to return it unopened from the perspective of whoever gets it when they resell it as new

[#Darren]

First I should say that I have NEVER returned a BD or DVD.

But I have to agree. The buyer is well within his rights, and I find the attack on him here to be quite pathetic. The TT fanboys in this thread really need to tone their overdefensiveness down a few notches.

Originally Posted by octagon

I live in a world where it is commonplace for reputable retailers to accept returns. Large retailers, small retailers, brick and mortar retailers, online retailers...they all routinely accept returns.

I also live in a world where consumers routinely factor reviews (yes, even INTERNET reviews) into their purchasing decisions. In fact, there are even people in my world who think that what reviews are for.

You'd hate it here.

[#Darren]

Originally Posted by whitesheik

I have never EVER returned a non-defective item. For what reason? I bought it and that's that. Sorry, that's the world I live in and I like it here. You live in the world of entitlement. I don't know your age, but if I had to hazard a guess based on this attitude, I would guess young rather than old, i.e. different values for different generations.

It is an "entitlement" issue when you return an unopened Blu-ray product based on the review of a highly respected film expert? Give me a break.

[Arkadin]

Originally Posted by rock, stone

Man, I don't understand what it is about TT that incites these bouts of hyperbole.

It's really just about enjoying a hobby more than anything I think.
and trying to have a little fun even when the price of the bd might be a little higher than we would all prefer.
not really all that complicated actually.

[Pirate King]

Ok... time for me to add my thoughts. As I am sure you all know, this is Screen Archives Entertainment's policy...

"RETURN POLICY: Only unopened CDs will be accepted for credit or refund to a customer's account. Screen Archives must be notified of this return within 6 weeks of the shipping date for domestic customers and within 90 days for international orders."

So... if you open it, you own it. If it is still sealed, you may return it. It does not matter the reason. Would I return a blu-ray based on a bad review? No. Would I return a blu-ray because I have changed my mind, and I really do not want the movie after all? No. However, if it is still sealed, I have the right to do so... because SAE has given me that right.

There is really nothing more to say about this... lets discuss movies.

[ROclockCK]

Originally Posted by Arkadin

It's really just about enjoying a hobby more than anything I think.and trying to have a little fun even when the price of the bd might be a little higher than we would all prefer.
not really all that complicated actually.

Exactly.

And not to put too fine a point on it, but I don't see many of the core TT 'hobbyists' hopping among other Blu-ray.com threads blithely dumping on everyone else's niche collector interests every chance they get. Personally, I think the willingness to pay $50 bucks for a slipcover edition of a $9.99 Blu-ray is pretty schtooopid, but you don't see me trolling through those boards constantly reminding slipcover fans they have a screw or two loose somewhere. We all have screws loose - for something - it's the nature of collecting.

Actually, I've met some wonderful folks here who are guilty of nothing more nefarious than sharing their enthusiasm for the funky, collector-savvy journey TT has undertaken through the vaults of two major studios. These are fun, interesting, passionate fans, many of whom have been on a multi-decade/multi-format quest to finally acquire some of their fave movies in the finest quality available while hard disc delivery of media is still possible. And along the way, they - we - have discovered that this sophmore label has routinely produced some flat out great work, yet even when occasionally less so, still representing a sincere best effort given the challenges of the source elements and the masters they had to work with. I've honestly never seen a run of anything this consistently good in all my years of home video collecting. And barely a year ago, none of it existed.

TT collectors are a harmless lot really - mostly vet movie fans - just grateful that someone has finally assumed the risk necessary to get this stuff out to us...and not on an SD MOD DVD-R in a flimsy eco case with indifferent artwork @ $19.99, but on a professionally authored and manufactured 'reel' HD Blu-ray with thoughtfully written background essay booklet...and for what...a measly $10 bucks more than a MOD? No brainer.

P.S. Blueherring. I received The Egyptian magnet. You should have your Mysterious Island magnet in a few days.

[JMK]

Originally Posted by #Darren

It is an "entitlement" issue when you return an unopened Blu-ray product based on the review of a highly respected film expert? Give me a break.

Why, thank yo--oh, wait, you probably mean Harris.