Twilight Time Discussion Thread

[jayembee]

Originally Posted by West E

any preorder date for At Close Range?

Pre-orders are rarely, if ever, announced more than a month or so ahead of time. So don't expect the September titles to get an announced pre-order date until after the pre-orders for the August titles have happened. Generally speaking, they are two weeks ahead of the release date. The most likely date for the September releases (street date: September 8) is August 26.

Always check the first posting in this thread. oildude is very good about updating it when pre-orders are announced.

[klauswhereareyou]

Originally Posted by rdodolak

If they haven't started to ship the preorders yet, and assuming they have the signed copy in hand, then you should get your order pretty quickly. Orders start getting delayed once the new releases begin to ship. Since such an order would have at least 6 titles the order would ship by Priority Mail which would be a ~2-3 days of transit time. In theory it's plausible you could get it next week.

You are right, it just shipped (or at least they made a shipping label for it). This is the fastest I've ever placed and order and then had a shipping confirmation (less than a day) from SAE.

[rdodolak]

Originally Posted by dsman71

It sounded like Christine is off the table and perhaps Sony is going to do a blu of it themselves since they own the film

This was posted by another user in the Christine thread as found on MMM. This would explain the alleged reversal.

Christine (Blu-ray w/ Digital Copy)
Year: 1983
Studio: Sony Pictures
Genre: Horror
Sound: 5.1 TRUEHD
Rating: R
Version: LBX, 16:9, BLU-RAY
Aspect: 2.35:1
Price: $19.99
Release: 09/29/2015
Status: Pending
UPC: 043396461659

[bruceames]

That has a release date 9/29/15. I doubt Sony will release it before the 3 year exclusivity agreement is up next March (unless perhaps the early sellout voids the necessity of adhering to the agreement for the full 3 years, but I doubt it).

[rdodolak]

Originally Posted by bruceames.

That has a release date 9/29/15. I doubt Sony will release it before the 3 year exclusivity agreement is up next March (unless perhaps the early sellout voids the necessity of adhering to the agreement for the full 3 years, but I doubt it).

You're assuming the 3-year window begins on the release date. More likely it begins when the contract is signed and/or when the master is ready.

EDIT: As more evidence, just look at JTTCOTE which was originally released on May 8, 2012 but re-released on March 10, 2015.

[captveg]

I could also see Sony working out a trade - they get Christine back six months earlier to sell it during Halloween time and TT gets a title or two they've been itching to release. Or something similar.

[bruceames]

Originally Posted by rdodolak

You're assuming the 3-year window begins on the release date. More likely it begins when the contract is signed and/or when the master is ready.

EDIT: As more evidence, just look at JTTCOTE which was originally released on May 8, 2012 but re-released on March 10, 2015.

That would explain it I guess.

[jayembee]

Originally Posted by bruceames.

That has a release date 9/29/15. I doubt Sony will release it before the 3 year exclusivity agreement is up next March (unless perhaps the early sellout voids the necessity of adhering to the agreement for the full 3 years, but I doubt it).

Originally Posted by rdodolak

You're assuming the 3-year window begins on the release date. More likely it begins when the contract is signed and/or when the master is ready.

EDIT: As more evidence, just look at JTTCOTE which was originally released on May 8, 2012 but re-released on March 10, 2015.

It's probably more complicated, as there are various factors that could cause problems one way or the other. And with regard to JttCotE, it's also just an assumption that the exclusivity window must be up for TT to reissue a title.

The trouble with assuming that the window begins with either of the factors you suggest is that, if true, means that TT would only have a 2½-year exclusive window to sell their disc, which wouldn't be in their favor. The contracts probably have a "This Date or That Date, Whichever Comes First or Last" clause.

At any rate, another possibility is that Sony bargained with Twilight Time to release their (Sony's) edition of Christine ahead of the window closing by giving them better terms on one or more other titles.

From the vantage point of us consumers, it's all guesswork.

[baheidstu]

Originally Posted by klauswhereareyou

I wonder how long it will take if someone got the Journey to the Center of the Earth promo and the rest of their order was non pre-order Twilight Time items. My guess is 2-3 weeks at the earliest.

Just received my shipping notification for my 6 titles including the promo. I'm in Canada though, so it should take a couple weeks to get here.

[rdodolak]

Originally Posted by jayembee

It's probably more complicated, as there are various factors that could cause problems one way or the other. And with regard to JttCotE, it's also just an assumption that the exclusivity window must be up for TT to reissue a title.

The trouble with assuming that the window begins with either of the factors you suggest is that, if true, means that TT would only have a 2½-year exclusive window to sell their disc, which wouldn't be in their favor. The contracts probably have a "This Date or That Date, Whichever Comes First or Last" clause.

At any rate, another possibility is that Sony bargained with Twilight Time to release their (Sony's) edition of Christine ahead of the window closing by giving them better terms on one or more other titles.

From the vantage point of us consumers, it's all guesswork.

Of course it will be a bit more complex. TT has only mentioned a 3-year period but they've never stated when that period begins. So it's all speculation on our part.

I don't think anyone would believe the studios would have TT, nor will TT, sign a contract stating the three year window starts solely upon signing of the contract even if the master isn't ready. If that were the case and the master wasn't ready for an additional three years, for example, then that would mean TT never gets an opportunity to release it. Just not going to happen.

[jshaide]

Caved and bought the next to last copy of THE BLUE MAX, so the final copy is up for grabs!

[rdodolak]

A recent sci-fi Japanese film is coming in 3D from TT in December. Anyone have any guesses?

Originally Posted by Twilight Time"

Just a heads-up that our 3D title scheduled for December is a spectacular, recent sci-fi film from Japan - absolutely stunning in 3-D and 2-D!

[RalphoR]

No clue but I'm very intrigued. Speaking of Sci Fi, TCM is having a great Earth vs aliens movie marathon tonight. Starting it off is a great Harryhausen classic.

With the recent news about Sony's release of Christine on blu I wonder if I'll regret ordering the Aussie Harryhausen 4 pack BD (7th Voyage, Golden Voyage, Eye of the Tiger, and Jason).

[mja345]

Originally Posted by rdodolak

A recent sci-fi Japanese film is coming in 3D from TT in December. Anyone have any guesses?

Using the term "recent" very loosely, maybe it's the classic MST3K fodder "The Prince of Space". I'd laugh so hard if a high brow label like TT put out "Prince of Space".

A guess would be "2046", which is a pretty good sci-fi film without a BD release. That may be classified as a Hong Kong film though. I can't think of any recent prominent Japanese sci-fi films.

[jshaide]

Originally Posted by mja345

Using the term "recent" very loosely, maybe it's the classic MST3K fodder "The Prince of Space". I'd laugh so hard if a high brow label like TT put out "Prince of Space".

A guess would be "2046", which is a pretty good sci-fi film without a BD release. That may be classified as a Hong Kong film though. I can't think of any recent prominent Japanese sci-fi films.

2046 isn't in 3D, though.

[mja345]

Originally Posted by jshaide

2046 isn't in 3D, though.

True. I'm racking my brain for recent Japanese sci-fi films and drawing a blank.

[jshaide]

Originally Posted by mja345

True. I'm racking my brain for recent Japanese sci-fi films and drawing a blank.

Me too. I even took a stab and googled those words, haha.

Isn't it also animated? I have no clue. . .

[rdodolak]

Originally Posted by mja345

Using the term "recent" very loosely, maybe it's the classic MST3K fodder "The Prince of Space". I'd laugh so hard if a high brow label like TT put out "Prince of Space".

A guess would be "2046", which is a pretty good sci-fi film without a BD release. That may be classified as a Hong Kong film though. I can't think of any recent prominent Japanese sci-fi films.

I'm thinking "recent" might mean within the past few years. One film that comes to mind is Harlock: Space Pirate which is an animated Japanese sci-fi film which is in both 2D and 3D. It was recently released on Digital HD and DVD back in March but not on Blu-ray.

http://www.scifijapan.com/articles/2...rch-25-and-26/

[jayembee]

Originally Posted by jshaide

Caved and bought the next to last copy of THE BLUE MAX, so the final copy is up for grabs!

Looks like they're all gone now. At least, it's no longer showing up in a search at SAE; it was until a few minutes ago.

[jshaide]

Originally Posted by jayembee

Looks like they're all gone now. At least, it's no longer showing up in a search at SAE; it was until a few minutes ago.

I really don't know anything about this movie. I hope my investments pays off.