Twilight Time Discussion Thread

[Dex Robinson]

Originally Posted by HyperRealist

Well if they stopped magnets I don't have to pre-order every month. No incentive. I'll wait for a deal.

Wait for a deal?

Uh...yeah...you do that.

Wait for the next price reduction of Twilight Time Blu-rays from SAE.

Good luck with that.

[SpartanIre]

Originally Posted by JaseT

And yet here you are bringing it up in another thread.

I guess complaining about people complaining about digibooks and magnets is ok, even though it's not "about nothing but the movies"?

+1

[SpartanIre]

Originally Posted by Dex Robinson

Watching people getting P.O.'s about the lack of magnets is just hilarious.

When people started complaining, I thought they were joking.

I couldn't imagine that any movie fan would be so shallow as to think that magnets have any value. Incredibly, I now understand that the complainers are actually serious.

But this is what happens when companies start adding useless nik-naks to their products. People start to expect the crap along with the movie. It's like slipscovers...more stuff that I have to separate out of movie collection and consign to the landfill.

I would advise that SAE not add any more magnets to their products. And don't make the Olive FIlms mistake of adding slipcovers. Put a disc in a good solid package to keep the movie fans happy. The crap collectors can rummage through the antique shops if they want more stuff to clutter up the house.

Recycle, Recycle, Recycle...

[HyperRealist]

Originally Posted by Dex Robinson

Wait for a deal?

Uh...yeah...you do that.

Wait for the next price reduction of Twilight Time Blu-rays from SAE.

Good luck with that.

There have been 3 deals already

1 code AMAZON
2 Fright Night
3 10% for wishlist

I'm not ordering any more until something is about to sell out or a deal. The loyal TT fans that pre-order every month keep getting screwed.

[JaseT]

Originally Posted by SpartanIre

Recycle, Recycle, Recycle...

Such an easy thing to do!

[bluskies]

I watched Bye Bye Birdie last night, and while it may be 50 years old it is still a joyous musical celebration of teenage youth during the Elvis days. While the Broadway version differs in that Kim is a supporting character, with the addition of Ann-Margret to the movie cast the story was changed to focus on her. It was a smart decision because this is definitely the film when she became a star. She is soft, sultry, outrageously sexy, and funny. She will raise any male's body temperature right from the opening pre-credit sequence.

Songs are a delight, with nary a clunker among them. Paul Lynde even gets the utterly delightful "Hymm for A Sunday Evening," the song which is an homage to Ed Sullivan. Bobby Rydell is a little-less-than-adequate as Hugo, Kim's boyfriend, but then who could match up to A-M without being Elvis himself. Dick Van Dyke and Janet Leigh are fun, and get the best lines and a few nice songs. But make no mistake, this is Ann-Margret's film from beginning to end. Those who see this movie for the first time will recognize the opening as something the ad team on "Mad Men" tried to imitate for a commercial, but the commercial was a failure and it was summed up that the reason was "It's not Ann-Margret."

The video is exceptional, vibrant colors, probably as good as we will ever get from the film (though it did look like there was a tiny bit of ghosting in the sequence where Birdie makes his motorcycle entrance into the town square). It is a major improvement over the DVD.

Audio is also a great improvement over the DVD. But while everything is clear on the 5.1 DTS-MA track, very little comes from the side speakers. However, the isolated 2.0 score fills the room when played on its own.

Extras are the isolated score mentioned above, as well as a trailer and a teaser. There is also a good 8-page booklet with Twilight Time's release.

Very highly recommended.

[whitesheik]

Originally Posted by JaseT

And yet here you are bringing it up in another thread.

I guess complaining about people complaining about digibooks and magnets is ok, even though it's not "about nothing but the movies"?

I was, in case you hadn't noticed, responding to another post, in case you hadn't noticed. Oh, I guess I can do one of these too:

Then again, perhaps it hits too close to home and you just love those slipcases and digibooks and magnets. I do understand, really.

[JaseT]

Originally Posted by whitesheik

I was, in case you hadn't noticed, responding to another post, in case you hadn't noticed. Oh, I guess I can do one of these too:

Then again, perhaps it hits too close to home and you just love those slipcases and digibooks and magnets. I do understand, really.

We can *all* do it Wheeeee!!

As far as slipcovers, digibooks, and magnets go, here's my take:

Slipcovers: They are cool, but I don't care too much about them most of the time. If I have the choice of buying one with or without, I would choose the one WITH.

Digibooks: Love them! I think they compliment the film nicely most of the time.

Magnets: I got one with Fright Night, but I don't really care about them.

Now you know.

[ROclockCK]

...here then is my humble summary of the SAE/TT magnet story to date:

Already Released:

• THE EGYPTIAN - Yes
• MYSTERIOUS ISLAND (1961) - Yes
• RAPTURE (1965) - No
• FRIGHT NIGHT (1985) - Yes
• THE ROOTS OF HEAVEN (1958) - No
• PICNIC (1955) - Yes
• SWAMP WATER (1941) - No
• PAL JOEY (1957) - Yes
• DEMETRIUS AND THE GLADIATORS (1954) - No
• BITE THE BULLET (1975) - No
• DESIREE (1954) - Yes
• BELL, BOOK & CANDLE (1958) - Yes
• JOURNEY TO THE CENTER OF THE EARTH (1959) - Yes
• THE BIG HEAT (1953) - Yes
• John Steinbeck's THE WAYWARD BUS (1957) - No
• AS GOOD AS IT GETS (1997) - Yes
• THOSE MAGNIFICENT MEN IN THEIR FLYING MACHINES (1965) - Yes
• COVER GIRL (1944) - Yes
• HIGH TIME (1960) - No
• BYE BYE BIRDIE (1963) - No
• THE SOUND AND THE FURY (1959) - No (Unconfirmed)
• STEEL MAGNOLIAS (1989) - No (Unconfirmed)

Of the 22 TT Blu-rays released so far, 12 have had magnets (approx. 55%).

Of the 18 releases from 2012 so far, 9 have had magnets (exactly 50%).

Of those releases which did get a tie-in magnet, the precise number originally available remains unknown, although based on annecdotal evidence from buyers on these boards (who got/who didn't, and when), it must have been 1000 per, except for Journey to the Center of the Earth, which got 2000, as noted in its original SAE listing.

Upcoming:

• ENEMY MINE (1985) BLU-RAY - ? (Maybe)
• NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD (1990) - ? (Predicting Yes)
• THE RAINS OF RANCHIPUR (1955) - ?
• BONJOUR TRISTESSE (1958) - ? (Maybe)
• BELOVED INFIDEL (1959) - ?
• THE BLUE LAGOON (1980) - ? (Predicting Yes)
• LOST HORIZON (1973) - ? (Maybe)

If we assume that only 50% to 55% of TT titles will get SAE promo magnets (admittedly not a given, just observing what has occurred to date), then 3 of the remaining 2012 titles should* include them, as predicted above.

Conclusion:

To date, these TT Blu-ray promo magnets have been issued fairly randomly by SAE, although sometimes in clusters month-to-month which might make it *seem* like they are a *regular* label feature. The reality is, they never have been more than a 50:50 'coin flip' kind of thing.

* Since the primary purpose of these tie-in magnets is to cross-promote TT's Blu-ray line and SAE as their exclusive distributor, the frequency of such tie-ins might have always been intended to decrease naturally as awareness of both companies increases.

[AgentOrange]

I think it's sad that people would actually get UPSET about the magnets, but at the same time i kind of liked getting them.

I look at slipcovers the same way. Some people are batshit crazy with those things. But I don't mind if a release comes with nice artwork and a slipcover at times can make the artwork stand out a little more. I just don't understand how people seemingly prioritize them even higher than the film itself.

I can't say I'm totally immune to "upgraded packaging". I occasionally will buy the digibook or collectors version of a film that I really want. I don't go out of my way to "collect" those editions particularly, I just get them occasionally if one catches my eye (and if the price is not much more than the regular version).

[PuppetMasterBlu]

No more magnet? I wonder how much the current magnets will go for now?

[balthazar_bee]

Originally Posted by whitesheik

This should be about nothing but the movies. Great transfer, lousy transfer, nice extras, no extras, good sound, bad sound - not the extraneous horse manure.

I think we went to the same school.

[grrrarg]

I just noticed that both my Magnet collection and my Slipcover collection have these bonus movie discs with them!

How cool is that??

I kind of like how the movie is thrown in there as a nice bit of bonus swag... I hope I keep getting movies with my magnets and my slipcovers.

[lcummins]

Originally Posted by ROclockCK

...
THE EGYPTIAN - Yes
MYSTERIOUS ISLAND (1961) - Yes
JOURNEY TO THE CENTER OF THE EARTH (1959) - Yes
...

So for those that don't care about the magnets, I need the three above, and would gladly pay your postage to ship to me if you are just going to throw them away or don't care about them.

[dsman71]

Some like Magnets, some like Slipcovers, I like inserts/booklets. I wish more BluRay's had them like the DVDs. Is it cheaper make an insert or magnet ?
Come to think about it when a studio says it costs too much to make a magnet, but they charge too much for a bare bones blu ray there is something not processing. It kinda blows to spend $35.00 for a blu ray. I will call it a Blow-Ray instead

[MEB]

We watched 'As Good As It Gets' yesterday. It had been at least 10 years since the last time watched it (on DVD, of course). What a great movie! And the Blu-ray is gorgeous.

Glad I celebrated my birthday by spending more than $20 on a movie for a change. AGAIG is a delight!

Mark

[NoirFan]

Could someone please explain the popularity of Phil Silvers? Every time he'd mince gratingly across the screen in Cover Girl I'd grit my teeth. When I'm enjoying a stylish musical, I don't want it ruined by a bespectacled goofus who looks like the chubbier brother of Jared from the Subway ads.

[ROclockCK]

Originally Posted by MEB

We watched 'As Good As It Gets' yesterday. It had been at least 10 years since the last time watched it (on DVD, of course). What a great movie! And the Blu-ray is gorgeous.

Glad I celebrated my birthday by spending more than $20 on a movie for a change. AGAIG is a delight!

Mark

Belated Happy Birthday Mark*!

*...and what a way to continue celebrating it. As I recall, you also treated yourself to Bye Bye Birdie?

[Dex Robinson]

Originally Posted by NoirFan

Could someone please explain the popularity of Phil Silvers?

Phil Silvers is a "period piece".

There are certain entertainers and certain styles of entertainers who were popular in a given period but their appeal doesn't translate well into modern times.

For example, Arthur Godfrey was one of the most popular and powerful TV entertainers and personalities of the 1950's. Today, his appeal is a complete mystery. He's almost forgotten by anybody born after 1955. (You can see and hear him in one of the extras on the Blu-ray of THE INCREDIBLE MR. LIMPET).

I regard such entertainers the same way I regard their movies or TV shows: windows into an another era when people had different tastes and sensibilities.

[ROclockCK]

Originally Posted by NoirFan

Could someone please explain the popularity of Phil Silvers?

Beats me NoirFan. Silvers had a popular TV show in the 50s, which unfortunately I've only seen via clips. He was probably best known for his Sgt. Bilko character from that series. I remember him mainly from zany sidekick and bit parts in 60s movies like It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World and A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum, which was admittedly fairly late in his career.

As for his "goofus" persona in Cover Girl, I put that down to the presence of Gene Kelly in the lead romantic role. Many of Kelly's movie 'buddies' were written that way, as manic comic counterpoint...probably the most famous (and successful) being Donald O'Connor in Singin' In The Rain. In those movies, Kelly got the girl, while buddy got the schtick.