Panasonic UB820/UB9000 4K UHD Blu-ray player - Page 126 - Blu-ray Forum

Mobe1969 · 12-11-2018, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

Yeah, you'll definitely need to use SDR 2020 on the 820 unless you're using custom curves. When using SDR/2020 on the 820, make the sure the projector color mode is set to 2020 (or whatever Sony calls it) with the 2.4 gamma setting. I'm not sure if that will help your handshaking issue or not.

Yeah I wonder what the issue is. It does seem like a handshaking type problem. So I do have to have the player on SDR2020 to make it work. Hmm, I guess I'll just need to try again.

That is one thing I find pretty annoying about this gen, is the handshaking issues. I never had a single problem in the 1080p HDMI era.

cjake · 12-12-2018, 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Mobe1969

Yeah I wonder what the issue is. It does seem like a handshaking type problem. So I do have to have the player on SDR2020 to make it work. Hmm, I guess I'll just need to try again.

That is one thing I find pretty annoying about this gen, is the handshaking issues. I never had a single problem in the 1080p HDMI era.

Your Sony is probably switching to an SDR mode since that is what it is getting from the UB820 in SDR/BT2020 output mode. That is correct, but you need to get the Sony switched to a BT2020 color profile instead of the REC709 that it defaults to.

It would be normal that you can't use HDR options in the Sony when it gets SDR BT2020.

cjake · 12-12-2018, 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by michaelhazin

Best Buy seems to be sold out of the 820. Do you guys think they will get more?

Best Buy was previously sold out in mid-November. I posted here on November 28 that Best Buy was accepting orders again.

Now they are sold out again in just under 2 weeks.

Next time they get stock, don't delay placing an order.

Ace · 12-12-2018, 03:52 AM

I have a Sony 65X850A from 2014, non HDR 4K LCD TV. Would the 820 give me a worthwhile benefit with its HDR optimizer? It’s a triluminous display, so I assume it supports BT2020.

JWB2 · 12-12-2018, 04:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mobe1969

Yeah I wonder what the issue is. It does seem like a handshaking type problem. So I do have to have the player on SDR2020 to make it work. Hmm, I guess I'll just need to try again.

That is one thing I find pretty annoying about this gen, is the handshaking issues. I never had a single problem in the 1080p HDMI era.

I have a Sony pj (885) and it works great. Here’s my settings:

Sony: gamma 2.4, bt2020, d65, brightness and contrast set according to masciola disc (50 and max for my setup)

Penny 820: sdr 2020, optimizer on, slider to +1 (personal preference)

Looks better than my custom gamma curves and is set and forget since it maps to the the disc metadata

Mobe1969 · 12-12-2018, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by JWB2

I have a Sony pj (885) and it works great. Here’s my settings:

Sony: gamma 2.4, bt2020, d65, brightness and contrast set according to masciola disc (50 and max for my setup)

Penny 820: sdr 2020, optimizer on, slider to +1 (personal preference)

Looks better than my custom gamma curves and is set and forget since it maps to the the disc metadata

Yeah, that is what I tried, but my projector player handshaking puts it into that dynamic range conversion mode, so rec709. Mine is a 675/550.

Geoff D · 12-12-2018, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Ace

I have a Sony 65X850A from 2014, non HDR 4K LCD TV. Would the 820 give me a worthwhile benefit with its HDR optimizer? It’s a triluminous display, so I assume it supports BT2020.

I know for sure that the 'B' 2014 set that I had (55X9005B) could support SDR 2020 from the Panny, but I never heard of any of the 'A' models using it.

ray0414 · 12-14-2018, 01:21 AM

I hooked my Panny directly to the tv and now all hdr is down converting to SDR. Disc and apps both downconverting. I've tried everything. The Panny says "dyname range conversion output". Any ideas?

Keep in mind. I have zero issues with feeding the Panny Into the oppo and then directly to the tv.

sapiendut · 12-14-2018, 10:31 AM

Set your TV to the HDR mode

King Crimson · 12-14-2018, 08:40 PM

I am very happy to confirm my MU8000 and Panny are HDR10+ capable. This is A Beautiful Planet FYI released this week and one of the first HDR10+ discs released.

Robert Zohn · 12-14-2018, 09:14 PM

So very ^ cool to see the 1st HDR10+ and nice demonstration!

Love Panasonic's detailed menu display. The UB9000 has even more source and content detailed information screens

King Crimson · 12-14-2018, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

So very ^ cool to see the 1st HDR10+ and nice demonstration!

Love Panasonic's detailed menu display. The UB9000 has even more source and content detailed information screens

Thanks. I am going to try and make comparisons while playing the disc on my Xbox One S. As talked about earlier you cannot optimize it like DV. But for my TV the best way to describe 10+ visually is that it looks like Normal HDR10 content but with the Panny optimizer set all the way up close to light or bright settings but the shadows are handled better(I did this by turning the hdr10+ playback off and playing the same scene with just hdr10 and optimizing it.) I love this player. Perfect also for comparing hdr grades.

Kris Deering · 12-14-2018, 09:19 PM

If you are using a Sony projector with this player make sure in the advanced menu you have HDR set to AUTO, not ON or OFF. It will then automatically apply the 2020 color mode for the input, but will NOT apply the HDR EOTF (so your contrast slider should NOT say Contrast HDR).

Adrian Wright · 12-14-2018, 09:20 PM

How do you get the HDR Metadata information from the 820 please ?

King Crimson · 12-14-2018, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Adrian Wright

How do you get the HDR Metadata information from the 820 please ?

I have firmware that allows me to display this info.

Clark Burk · 12-15-2018, 01:43 PM

Just curious if that firmware is the same region free firmware that was mentioned earlier? Does it also add the gamma mode adjustment that the 9000 has?

King Crimson · 12-15-2018, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Clark Burk

Just curious if that firmware is the same region free firmware that was mentioned earlier? Does it also add the gamma mode adjustment that the 9000 has?

Yes it is, can you be more detailed or specific?..I can adjust the gamma during playback on the 820.

Clark Burk · 12-15-2018, 04:33 PM

I’d rather not get more specific as some forums don’t like talk of firmware hacks but I wasn’t aware this firmware included the 9000 options. Thank you.

Gretiem · 12-15-2018, 07:23 PM

will there be a hdr10+ firmware update ?

King Crimson · 12-15-2018, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Gretiem

will there be a hdr10+ firmware update ?

820 and 9000 already support HDR10+ and DV out of the box.

12-12-2018, 03:52 AM	#2504
Ace Member Member since:May 2007	I have a Sony 65X850A from 2014, non HDR 4K LCD TV. Would the 820 give me a worthwhile benefit with its HDR optimizer? It’s a triluminous display, so I assume it supports BT2020. Last edited by Ace; 12-12-2018 at 02:27 PM.

12-14-2018, 01:21 AM	#2508
ray0414 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Oct 2015 Location:Michigan, USA, 35yo Trading Score:9	I hooked my Panny directly to the tv and now all hdr is down converting to SDR. Disc and apps both downconverting. I've tried everything. The Panny says "dyname range conversion output". Any ideas? Keep in mind. I have zero issues with feeding the Panny Into the oppo and then directly to the tv. Last edited by ray0414; 12-14-2018 at 04:09 AM.

12-14-2018, 08:40 PM	#2510
King Crimson Blu-ray Guru Member since:Nov 2017 Location:Tokyo 4K collection:379 Blu-ray collection:760 DVD collection:47 Trading Score:32	I am very happy to confirm my MU8000 and Panny are HDR10+ capable. This is A Beautiful Planet FYI released this week and one of the first HDR10+ discs released. Last edited by King Crimson; 12-14-2018 at 09:03 PM.

12-14-2018, 10:31 AM	#2509
sapiendut Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2009 Location:Canada 4K collection:2 Blu-ray collection:3	Set your TV to the HDR mode

12-14-2018, 09:14 PM	#2511
Robert Zohn Retailer Insider Member since:Nov 2009 Location:Scarsdale, NY Trading Score:2	So very ^ cool to see the 1st HDR10+ and nice demonstration! Love Panasonic's detailed menu display. The UB9000 has even more source and content detailed information screens

12-14-2018, 09:19 PM	#2513
Kris Deering Power Member Member since:Nov 2006 Location:Pacific Northwest Blu-ray collection:400 Trading Score:131	If you are using a Sony projector with this player make sure in the advanced menu you have HDR set to AUTO, not ON or OFF. It will then automatically apply the 2020 color mode for the input, but will NOT apply the HDR EOTF (so your contrast slider should NOT say Contrast HDR).

12-14-2018, 09:20 PM	#2514
Adrian Wright Senior Member Member since:Aug 2006 Location:Nottingham, England 4K collection:4 Blu-ray collection:5 Trading Score:38	How do you get the HDR Metadata information from the 820 please ?

12-15-2018, 01:43 PM	#2516
Clark Burk Active Member Member since:Jun 2007	Just curious if that firmware is the same region free firmware that was mentioned earlier? Does it also add the gamma mode adjustment that the 9000 has?

12-15-2018, 04:33 PM	#2518
Clark Burk Active Member Member since:Jun 2007	I’d rather not get more specific as some forums don’t like talk of firmware hacks but I wasn’t aware this firmware included the 9000 options. Thank you.

12-15-2018, 07:23 PM	#2519
Gretiem Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Oct 2018 Location:somewhere Trading Score:37	will there be a hdr10+ firmware update ?

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