Lawrence of Arabia (1962)

[The Duke]

Originally Posted by paper tiger

I see the single disc edition is now available for pre-order for only $18.99. Coming in at $50 less than the Collectors Edition it is tempting.

Where? And I don't think there is a "single disc edition", the basic blu-ray should be 2 BDs, film on the first & extras on the 2nd, like the UK release.

[ilconsigliere]

Originally Posted by metal134

How about no. I can see the difference between DVD and Blu-Ray. But that doesn't mean I have to nit pick. How about you people stop being so pissed off at me for not caring as much as you do.

I agree with you. Of course I can see the difference between a good Bluray and a good DVD. But who in the world is going to be able to see the difference in Lawrence if it is in 1 or 2 discs? What equipment are you using? I'm sure that 99% of people won't be able to do so. The so called "compression" in a restoration like this one won't be able to be seen with the naked eye, using home equipment. Now, if you go to a lab...that's a different story.

[paper tiger]

Originally Posted by The Duke

Where? And I don't think there is a "single disc edition", the basic blu-ray should be 2 BDs, film on the first & extras on the 2nd, like the UK release.

Lawrence of Arabia Blu-ray

And it currently says 1 disc, the movie is said to only take up 1 disc, probably zero bonus features with the basic edition.

[The Duke]

Originally Posted by paper tiger

Lawrence of Arabia Blu-ray

And it currently says 1 disc, the movie is said to only take up 1 disc, probably zero bonus features with the basic edition.

Thanks, they must have added it recently, I've been checking regularly. The Amazon.com listing also says 1 disc, but the UK Oct. 10 release has been confirmed as 2 discs, and it works out to about the same price as Amazon.com. And the Blu-ray.com news release for the Special Edition says "Sony will offer two Blu-ray iterations of Lawrence of Arabia, a two-disc version of the film and a four-disc, limited edition 50th Anniversary Collector's set." When you click the link for "two-disc version" it now takes you to the listing you posted that says 1 disc. Well, it's probably still too far out for final specs, and I don't think Sony would release a basic version for wide release with the movie only, no extra features. Maybe a Walmart $10 exclusive, but not a general release.

[slick1ru2]

Originally Posted by paper tiger

I see the single disc edition is now available for pre-order for only $18.99. Coming in at $50 less than the Collectors Edition it is tempting.

And the region free 2 disc UK Collectors edition is $17.50 plus shipping. I ordered it AND the Universal Monster Collection for the price of this US LoA set. That's like $100 off the US price.

[slick1ru2]

Originally Posted by The Duke

Thanks, they must have added it recently, I've been checking regularly. The Amazon.com listing also says 1 disc, but the UK Oct. 10 release has been confirmed as 2 discs, and it works out to about the same price as Amazon.com. And the Blu-ray.com news release for the Special Edition says "Sony will offer two Blu-ray iterations of Lawrence of Arabia, a two-disc version of the film and a four-disc, limited edition 50th Anniversary Collector's set." When you click the link for "two-disc version" it now takes you to the listing you posted that says 1 disc. Well, it's probably still too far out for final specs, and I don't think Sony would release a basic version for wide release with the movie only, no extra features. Maybe a Walmart $10 exclusive, but not a general release.

The US Single disc version doesn't have "Special Edition" on it like the 2 disc UK version. Maybe its like Man On Fire, leaving out the extras disc in the US while including it in the UK version.

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[The Duke]

Originally Posted by slick1ru2

The US Single disc version doesn't have "Special Edition" on it like the 2 disc UK version. Maybe its like Man On Fire, leaving out the extras disc in the US while including it in the UK version.

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I have the UK release pre-ordered - why wait 2 more months?, and there's some other UK titles I've been wanting. (With Amazon's shipping of £2.09 per order + £.99 per item in the same order, the more titles you include in an order, the less shipping cost per item)

But I'll still be surprised if the only choice in the US is a $70ish Special Edition or a $19ish single disc with no extra features.

[Maggot]

Originally Posted by yojoeski

Does the fact that Robert Harris himself has said that the new blu-ray is reference quality in both audio and video mean nothing to you clods who still want to ***** and whine about the movie not being split? I mean seriously, does his opinion mean nothing or do you simply think you know better.

Unfortunately, you don't get the fact that it's all subjective. Everybody has different tastes, tollerances, eyes, ears, equipment, etc. Sorry, but just because one guy, and I don't give a damn who he his, says "this or that is so", translates to therefore I should follow rank and not judge with my own eyes and ears. Give me an F'ing break. You have fun being a sheep.

[slick1ru2]

Originally Posted by Maggot

Unfortunately, you don't get the fact that it's all subjective. Everybody has different tastes, tollerances, eyes, ears, equipment, etc. Sorry, but just because one guy, and I don't give a damn who he his, says "this or that is so", translates to therefore I should follow rank and not judge with my own eyes and ears. Give me an F'ing break. You have fun being a sheep.

Same way I feel about HD streaming. I don't need to own every BD in the world. I like having access to about 65k streaming titles over various apps on different devices. People make out the quality to be that of a 240k YouTube video when its usually always excellent and in some cases the title is ONLY available in HD streaming. Don't tell me it sucks, I know that isn't the case. Especially for under $10/month.

[metal134]

Originally Posted by Strevlac

Aren't you the guy that wants academy ratio films cropped so that they fill your HDTV screen?

No. Firstly, you aren't the first to say that and it's a clear indication that my post aren't even being thoroughly read:

Originally Posted by metal134

Agreed. That drives me nuts. Personally, I wouldn't stretch a 1.37:1 film because I don't think it looks good. But I used to stretch my 2.35:1 DVDs all the time. Why? Because it just looks 10X more beautiful when it fills the screen. Sorry, it just does. And I can't tell it's stretched, so who cares? If you were to give me 100 clips and ask me to distinguish whether they were stretched 2.39:1 or native 1.85:1, I would be 50/50 because I would have to make a guess every single last time. That's the one thing I don't like about Blu Ray over DVD, the inability to use a stretch function.

So, where do you see anything in what I said about cropping ANYTHING AT ALL let alone Academy ratio? Reading comprehension is clearly not a prerequisite here.

Secondly, even if I DID want to do that so what? This question has been asked and NO ONE will answer it. If someone else watches a film and wants to stretch it, crop it, zoom it, whatever, how does that affect YOU. How are YOU affected by how someone else watches their movies?

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by slick1ru2

Same way I feel about HD streaming. I don't need to own every BD in the world. I like having access to about 65k streaming titles over various apps on different devices. People make out the quality to be that of a 240k YouTube video when its usually always excellent and in some cases the title is ONLY available in HD streaming. Don't tell me it sucks, I know that isn't the case. Especially for under $10/month.

Of course, until everyone does it and data caps really start to implemented! Heheh, sure you'll get $10/month on the seller, but not the ISP.

[metal134]

Originally Posted by rickah88

Of course, until everyone does it and data caps really start to implemented! Heheh, sure you'll get $10/month on the seller, but not the ISP.

Yeah, this is the thought that has plagued me for years. People keep talking about streaming (movies and video games) being the future, yet the stranglehold on data usage gets tighter and tighter.

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by metal134

Yeah, this is the thought that has plagued me for years. People keep talking about streaming (movies and video games) being the future, yet the stranglehold on data usage gets tighter and tighter.

Here's what won't change: The 700+ BDs in my media cabinet...soon to be joined by the Collector's Edition of this fine film. That much I know.

[slick1ru2]

Originally Posted by rickah88

Of course, until everyone does it and data caps really start to implemented! Heheh, sure you'll get $10/month on the seller, but not the ISP.

Data caps are going up, not down. ISPs are waking up to the trend of streaming and responding positively. Comcast used to give 1 warning if you went over 250 GB. Do it a second time within 6 months and you were disconnected for a year. This was when people going over the limit wasn't from streaming, it was from illegal PtP torrents. Now, they have raised the limit and sell 50GB//$10 chunks over the limit. With 3 PS3s, 2 Roku, 1 Xbox I'd say we stream more than the 95% of US households. That being said, we have never gone over 255gb/month. I switched to the Comcast business package. Same price, no cap. I'll consider switching back when my contract is over but having a business account with 24 hr live customer service access, priority packets through their system, and the amount of money they gave me for being down 2 days when the local router went down, 3 months worth of premiums, because its a performance contract, makes it tempting to just renew.

Internet service on cable systems goes over the same system that they use for HDTV to cable boxes. The infra structure to provide the data stream is there, companies are continually upgrading.

http://gizmodo.com/5911182/comcast-i...250gb-to-300gb

Comcast Increases Its Monthly Data Cap from 250GB to 300GB

In a welcome move that Comcast says is due to our changing Internet habits (streaming, streaming, streaming), Comcast is upping its monthly data caps from 250GB to 300GB. Nice! That's definitely less awful. This is the first increase in data cap size since Comcast introduced it back in 2008.

If you're a hardcore Internet user who sucks bandwidth like water though, you can buy 50GB blocks of data for $10. [Comcast Blog via GigaOM]

[metal134]

Originally Posted by rickah88

Here's what won't change: The 700+ BDs in my media cabinet...soon to be joined by the Collector's Edition of this fine film. That much I know.

Oh, I'm on board with that, I'm glad to have my hard copies (although I am not near, nor will I ever approach 700). But honestly, for all the talk about it, I think the move to all digital will take a lot longer than people think. Some pundits seem to think it's imminent; within the next few years. I think it's a few decades out, if not longer.

[rickah88]

Yeah, hang on to the thought, infrastructure can keep up with demand...sans heavy price hike. We'll see.
In the meantime, I'll be sitting here with my almost 800 BDs that will never go away!


Edit: Also I sit back and enjoy the greatest year blu-ray has ever had, crowned by the release of LoA. But that's just me. Let me know how LoA looks streamed over the PS3.

[slick1ru2]

Originally Posted by metal134

Oh, I'm on board with that, I'm glad to have my hard copies (although I am not near, nor will I ever approach 700). But honestly, for all the talk about it, I think the move to all digital will take a lot longer than people think. Some pundits seem to think it's imminent; within the next few years. I think it's a few decades out, if not longer.

Digital doesn't have to mean streaming, it can mean DL the full version which people are doing right now illegally on torrents, dl full BD versions of movies. Full games are coming out now in digital. Full game, same as on disc. And I mean games that over 10gb. You dl to your HD. You can redownload it as many times as you need for as long as you want. You can DL Madden vs buying it on disc. HDD get only cheaper. I can see DL full 1080p movies, same size as the movie on disc, have it the moment of release along with the extras and available to DL again on the same machine or a future one in case it crashes. Discs crack and get scratched. For some, like me, discs are becoming a storage issue and don't want to appear on the next episode of Hoarders. So for some its a solution.


EDIT: And I am sure if they put LoA on Vudu at HDX version it will be fine. The PS3 has had the Vudu app for awhile now and NetFlix is also streaming some titles at HDX bit rates.

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by slick1ru2

Discs crack and get scratched.

I can, safely, report that the 1000's of BD/dvd I've owned over the years...none have ever cracked. Perhaps 2 got scratched due to extenuating circumstances. I'll continue to take those odds...especially with this fantastic LoA Collector's Edition! It's going to look great!

[slick1ru2]

Originally Posted by rickah88

I can, safely, report that the 1000's of BD/dvd I've owned over the years...none have ever cracked. Perhaps 2 got scratched due to extenuating circumstances. I'll continue to take those odds...especially with this fantastic LoA Collector's Edition! It's going to look great!

I can safely report that you aren't everyone.

[s2mikey]

Originally Posted by rickah88

I can, safely, report that the 1000's of BD/dvd I've owned over the years...none have ever cracked. Perhaps 2 got scratched due to extenuating circumstances. I'll continue to take those odds...especially with this fantastic LoA Collector's Edition! It's going to look great!

I dont own near that many but since 2008 Ive had exactly one BD rental disc not play and that could have been a SW issue. All the others Ive rented or bought have been just ducky. They really are pretty resilient, IMO. Besides, only neglect could cause damage. Not gonna hurt them playing them BD players.