List of UHDs that utilize 4K or Higher Masters

[MisterXDTV]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Oh, they're not just okay with it, they're fully aware that 4K spatial resolution provides the least visual improvement for the biggest amount of bandwidth compared to what WCG/HDR can do, especially in tandem.

So just because they need to sell something new, they are re-grading movies for no technical reason...

In fact they are not saying the standard grading is wrong or limited by the Blu-ray standard but that without CHANGING colors/dynamic range 4K is just useless at home....

Unbelievable....

[HD Goofnut]

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[Pieter V]

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

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This is the Blu-ray edition. This doesn't include an UHD Blu-ray disc.

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by Pieter V

This is the Blu-ray edition. This doesn't include an UHD Blu-ray disc.

Well dang. I was getting excited for a studio other than Fox.

[Pieter V]

Format: 15/70, Digital 4K/2K, Dome

http://www.bigmoviezone.com/filmsear....html?uniq=892

Produced by K2 Films. So first hand info.

Four times the resolution of "HD," 4K UHD will be the new standard for television / home viewing. Most of these titles were originally shot in 15/70MM and other ultra high resolution formats suitable for IMAX / Giant Screen theaters, and have been digitally scanned at 4K or higher resolution. Since they were captured in higher than 4K resolution, when viewed in 4K UHD they look especially crisp and vibrant

http://www.k2communications.com/showcat.php?cat_id=36

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by Pieter V

[Show spoiler]

http://www.bigmoviezone.com/filmsear....html?uniq=892

Produced by K2 Films. So first hand info.



http://www.k2communications.com/showcat.php?cat_id=36

Shout announced a lot more. Waiting for database links.

Done.

[spectre08]

I am as excited about Journey to Space as I am about any other UHD title, maybe more excited.

[BenjaminG]

James Finn from Fox just tweeted out the following information regarding the DI of The Martian. I posted it in that thread, but thought it might be of value here too.



https://twitter.com/FinnJ/status/686...559937?lang=en

[eriaur]

Originally Posted by Pieter V

Scanned at 11K:
http://www.liftgammagain.com/forum/i...sode-001.5438/

[MisterXDTV]

Originally Posted by BenjaminG

James Finn from Fox just tweeted out the following information regarding the DI of The Martian. I posted it in that thread, but thought it might be of value here too.



https://twitter.com/FinnJ/status/686...559937?lang=en

The Martian should be added to the list now. This is a true 4K remaster...

[Desk.]

Originally Posted by BenjaminG

James Finn from Fox just tweeted out the following information regarding the DI of The Martian. I posted it in that thread, but thought it might be of value here too.



https://twitter.com/FinnJ/status/686...559937?lang=en

So forgive my ignorance here, but does this mean that they rely on the 2K DI for all the special effects material, titles, etc, which is then upscaled to 4K, but are then combining that with all the filmed 4K content taken from the raw footage?

Would be great if someone could offer a simple idea as to how all this comes together.

Desk

[elwaylite]

The more I learn about this format, the less concerned I am about the DI. I will now proceed with buying any new release that I would normally buy in UHD, if it is in UHD.

[vargo]

Originally Posted by Desk.

So forgive my ignorance here, but does this mean that they rely on the 2K DI for all the special effects material, titles, etc, which is then upscaled to 4K, but are then combining that with all the filmed 4K content taken from the raw footage?

Would be great if someone could offer a simple idea as to how all this comes together.

Desk

He means they upscaled to 4K and ran it through an automated contrast booster while everyone went to lunch and counted their money.

Don't worry, they will do it properly in a few years and release the ultimate remastered edition. And maybe once more a few years later if they feel like it, this time the definitive edition in UHD 3D. You'll need a new player for that of course.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Desk.

So forgive my ignorance here, but does this mean that they rely on the 2K DI for all the special effects material, titles, etc, which is then upscaled to 4K, but are then combining that with all the filmed 4K content taken from the raw footage?

Would be great if someone could offer a simple idea as to how all this comes together.

Desk

No need for much further enumeration as you've nailed it: VFX etc that's been baked strictly at 2K will be up-rezzed, the rest is redone from scratch using the original camera capture (be it RAW video files or scans of the camera negative, extant or otherwise).

Sure, there's barely a frame that goes by in movies these days that doesn't have some form of digital feckery or another, but that doesn't mean it's true VFX as it's amazing what they can do in just the grading suite these days. So all the split-screening, reframing etc that was done originally can be carried over to the newly graded 4K material without too much fuss.

[Pieter V]

For the list:

[spectre08]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

No need for much further enumeration as you've nailed it: VFX etc that's been baked strictly at 2K will be up-rezzed, the rest is redone from scratch using the original camera capture (be it RAW video files or scans of the camera negative, extant or otherwise).

Sure, there's barely a frame that goes by in movies these days that doesn't have some form of digital feckery or another, but that doesn't mean it's true VFX as it's amazing what they can do in just the grading suite these days. So all the split-screening, reframing etc that was done originally can be carried over to the newly graded 4K material without too much fuss.

from what I've seen anecdotaly as well, CGI VFX appears to upres much better than captured images.

I suspect this is because of the already sharper and more orderly nature of CGI vs real images.

I've noticed this in movies like Transformers where after they've been upscalled to 4K the CGI elements look a bit "hyper realistic" and are noticeably sharper than the photographic elements in the background.



I agree too that the grading and editing can be redone by the computer very simply, since all of the changes and data will be stored, and can be reapplied frame-by-frame to the higher res sources.

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by Pieter V

For the list:

Expendables had a 4k finish?

[Opips3]

Originally Posted by dvdmike

Expendables had a 4k finish?

So I said yes! Parts3

[Ben_R]

Originally Posted by dvdmike

Expendables had a 4k finish?

Apparently it was a 4K Digital Intermediate (Master) and a (4K) (5K) Redcode RAW (Source).

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by Ben_R

Apparently it was a 4K Digital Intermediate (Master) and a (4K) (5K) Redcode RAW (Source).

Huh, had no idea.
Mind you those blood spurt CGI effects can be rendered in 12k and still look crap